Bluetec.

I want to know the difference between W211 bluetec 211 hp and W212 bluetec 2009 211 hp, which is better? who consume less? who has more acceleration?

Plutoe

Go to a dealer----read the owners manual-----test drive the cars-----then you tell us!!

Bluetec.

lol you dont say... i dont have mercedes dealer in my city

AMGAffalterbach

I think better is largely subjective, I know many people that love the W211 styling more than the W212 styling and interior appointment, whereas I truly don't mind the changes in the newer model. Powertrain wise I'm fairly sure it is the same BlueTec engine that carries over so it would be more down to weight at that point, but I believe fuel economy was improved in the later model. Some quick Internet research would do you some good! Welcome to the forums.

Bluetec.

i have search to many times about those cars but I havent find what I like to know about those cars. W211 V6 Bluetec 211hp euro5 better than W211 V6 224hp Euro4, and W212 V6 bluetec 211hp Euro 6 is better than W212 blueefficiency V6 231/265 hp?

eatcake

If all you're comparing is horsepower then they look pretty comparable. You can always look up the technical specs of each vehicle and compare the numbers that way.

If you're looking for someone who has had both a w211 and a w212 I think that may be harder to find.

Are you looking for reliability opinions and experiences?

K-A

Engine wise they're the same so your question seems mostly related purely to "W211 VS W212".

Let's start with which one you think looks better?

I've had both, and will say the W212 feels much stronger/more solid, is built better, has a more coddling feeling interior yet at the same time has a less elegant interior with cheaper/more unrefined feeling materials.

Exterior design is a tough one as the W212 grew on me a lot and I came to adore the fussy and extremely angular styling, but I don't think it is aging or will age as beautifully as the gracefully elegant W211 has. I admire both when I see nice examples, but considering the fact that the W211 is over a decade old now and I still look at a nice/clean one and admire as if it's a brand new car says that to me it's perhaps the pinnacle of modern timeless M-B design.

I find myself missing the W211 more but the W212 is a technically superior device. It's also a more reliable model.

dave2001auto

You will not likely get to test drive those unless you are in Europe. The 2009 W211 bluetec is with a dpf only (no urea) called E320 bluetec in the USA. The 2009 W212 bluetec (not in USA until 2012) is with the dpf and urea system (extra 300 pounds, so less acceleration and mpg - body, options, and lights are different). Called the e350 bluetec in the USA. As far as I know both have the same or similar V6 engines and G7 NAG2 transmission with no dipstick (RWD). No dipstick, so it's hard to assess AFT before purchasing.

My 2009 e320 bluetec get about 38 mpg at 70 mph (optimal for mpg) and 26 to 28 mpg city with lots of stop and wait. That's with US gallons.

DubVBenz

I think the later 212 bluetecs have a newer turbo that produces around 260HP.

pinebaron

I feel it's possible to produce higher bhp with a remapped ECU (still workng on mine, well not me personally but OE Tuning is) though 260bhp or higher may be somewhat difficult without additional significant modifications like larger/upgraded injectors, turbo, intercooler, etc.

W212:
Only the S350 Bluetec produces 240hp and it uses two smaller turbos as opposed to a single larger one in E350

E350 BlueTEC AMG (apparently released in Europe) produces 248bhp with 458lbs/ft torque

E350 BlueTEC US version produces 210bhp (I believe the same engine in the SUV produces slightly higher 216bhp or close)

fila0220

if i get a w212 bluetec, this will be by rolemodel

K-A

That looks identical to my most recent W212 down to the roof wrap without the roof rails being wrapped and front lip blacked out in the exact same way. Mine however had the OEM AMG wheels and P2 (LED inner parking lights, wider headlight projectors and LED blinkers replacing those nasty halogens) and standup hood star.

AMGAffalterbach

+1 to all of your observations above, K-A and Fila.

DubVBenz

I was incorrect about the HP, but the turbo is actually a twin-scroll, not two turbo chargers. Regardless, without a higher output 6-cylinder diesel motor, I'm not sure a mercedes diesel is in the cards for me in the future. If BMW's new 535d is upped to around 300HP, that'll probably be my next car.

K-A

Unfortunately the new U.S bound "535d" is really a 530d. The "real" 535d in Europe is an absolute beast in every which way, enormous power range and still very efficient. The 530d (which is what the U.S is getting called the "535d") is more efficiency oriented but still makes great power and much more than the Bluetec counterpart in the E Class.

A U.S "535d" (530d) should run pretty similarly to the 535i in performance (more torque but less HP) until higher speeds where the 535i would obviously have some more power range, and will obviously be a lot more efficient. IMO the U.S bound 535d should be a very intriguing prospect for the U.S especially with the Bluetec now having only the "250" option from what I understand with drastically less power.

pinebaron

My brother recently purchased a new 2013 530d in India with all the bells and whistles and apparently it is a superb car. I'm tryin to soup up my W211 Bluetec to match the 530d inline 6 power output. I'm so glad I ordered the W211 in 07, it has been faultless over 35K miles now since new.

I will have my eyes set on a 2015 E63 AMG next year (not giving up my Bluetec) since the 2nd year model is likely to be refined. I'm sticking to the Mercedes Brand.