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Actually no, personally I believe that replicas are a bad thing, unless of course you know you can afford the real thing and can back it up. I have a fake rolex that I use just to make fun of my dad, heck mine looks almost as good as his. But I know it's fake, he knows it's fake, but it's all good because I know if it wasn't in all fun, I would be able to get a real one if I needed.
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Originally posted by vraa
Your taking it to another leven, hypothesizing if you will. Their entire line may be of complete knock-off's but that still doesn't mean they are counterfit and illegal. It's just a simple design, no where have they said on their rims that they are Brabus. It's up to the viewer to decide if they are Brabus or not in their mind without seeing the Moven brand. It's not Moven's fault that some passer-by thought that their rims were Brabus.
Your taking it to another leven, hypothesizing if you will. Their entire line may be of complete knock-off's but that still doesn't mean they are counterfit and illegal. It's just a simple design, no where have they said on their rims that they are Brabus. It's up to the viewer to decide if they are Brabus or not in their mind without seeing the Moven brand. It's not Moven's fault that some passer-by thought that their rims were Brabus.
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I don't think there is much disagreement here. However, I do think there is a problem with terminology. The rims could never be described as counterfeit as long as the Brabus name or emblem does not appear on them. IPR infringement is a completely different argument all together.
Whatever the case, the attitude of the Sales Rep described at the beginning of the thread is inexcusable. What if the customer was coming in to the store to purchase the real deal to replace the copies? Their job is to sell, not to judge!
Whatever the case, the attitude of the Sales Rep described at the beginning of the thread is inexcusable. What if the customer was coming in to the store to purchase the real deal to replace the copies? Their job is to sell, not to judge!
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Originally posted by CarlssonCRS
whatever. the people who are defending the fact that movens arent brabus wannabes are just trying to justify to themselves that its ok to have their replicas and its just as good as the originals. you guys might as well pimp out prado shoes, guggi sunglasses and roleks watches as well.
whatever. the people who are defending the fact that movens arent brabus wannabes are just trying to justify to themselves that its ok to have their replicas and its just as good as the originals. you guys might as well pimp out prado shoes, guggi sunglasses and roleks watches as well.
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Originally posted by Fastbuck
I don't think there is much disagreement here. However, I do think there is a problem with terminology. The rims could never be described as counterfeit as long as the Brabus name or emblem does not appear on them. IPR infringement is a completely different argument all together.
Whatever the case, the attitude of the Sales Rep described at the beginning of the thread is inexcusable. What if the customer was coming in to the store to purchase the real deal to replace the copys? Their job is to sell, not to judge!
I don't think there is much disagreement here. However, I do think there is a problem with terminology. The rims could never be described as counterfeit as long as the Brabus name or emblem does not appear on them. IPR infringement is a completely different argument all together.
Whatever the case, the attitude of the Sales Rep described at the beginning of the thread is inexcusable. What if the customer was coming in to the store to purchase the real deal to replace the copys? Their job is to sell, not to judge!
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And if you still dont believe in what i say... ill show you some visual examples of wheels that look alike, but bear different names, you tell me if these are illegal companies...
ADR Lux Wheels
Lorinser RSK3 Wheels
Damn... they do alike don't they? I guess ADR counterfit rims, so that means SuperBuyTires, Wheel Max, RDM Wheels, and many other wheel distributors must be in the act of supporting counterfitters. Call the FBI then... ADR and Lorinser are two different companie, their rims look EXACTLY alike, but different names, yet many reputable companies carry ADR wheels...
Diablo Vienna Wheels
Lowenhart LD1 Wheels
One More Example? Sure Why Not...
ACE Alloy Allure Wheels
Brabus Monoblock V1 2-Piece Wheels
So i guess all these companies are counterfitters...
http://www.acealloywheel.com/
http://www.diabloracingwheels.com/
http://www.adrwheels.com/
Bottom line, some of these companies have many customers, and being sold by reputable distributors, so if you are saying they are counterfitters, then all these companies are as well... they clearly have some differences but look alike, yet they bear different names... they are legit wheels and legit companies... if they werent, then the FBI would be shutting down these companies and raiding their distributors... just like how the FBI raided Chinatown siezing nearly $3 Million worth of fake handbags and accessories from Gucci to Sean John. Face it, what these wheel makers are doing is legit.
IF IT DOESNT HAVE THE NAME ITS NOT COUNTERFIT!!!!
ADR Lux Wheels
Lorinser RSK3 Wheels
Damn... they do alike don't they? I guess ADR counterfit rims, so that means SuperBuyTires, Wheel Max, RDM Wheels, and many other wheel distributors must be in the act of supporting counterfitters. Call the FBI then... ADR and Lorinser are two different companie, their rims look EXACTLY alike, but different names, yet many reputable companies carry ADR wheels...
Diablo Vienna Wheels
Lowenhart LD1 Wheels
One More Example? Sure Why Not...
ACE Alloy Allure Wheels
Brabus Monoblock V1 2-Piece Wheels
So i guess all these companies are counterfitters...
http://www.acealloywheel.com/
http://www.diabloracingwheels.com/
http://www.adrwheels.com/
Bottom line, some of these companies have many customers, and being sold by reputable distributors, so if you are saying they are counterfitters, then all these companies are as well... they clearly have some differences but look alike, yet they bear different names... they are legit wheels and legit companies... if they werent, then the FBI would be shutting down these companies and raiding their distributors... just like how the FBI raided Chinatown siezing nearly $3 Million worth of fake handbags and accessories from Gucci to Sean John. Face it, what these wheel makers are doing is legit.
IF IT DOESNT HAVE THE NAME ITS NOT COUNTERFIT!!!!
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Originally posted by Mr. Xristo
Where are your farking brains??
If you were stealing from my company, I would not welcome you with open arms either.
This is the same situation as if you were to go to China Town (NYC) and purchase a "knock off" Chanel bag and then have the audacity to walk into the Chanel store on Madison and expect to be treated with good service.
When you purchase any counterfeit item you are stealing from a company.
The counterfeit item(s) look like the real thing and people would be more inclined to purchase them rather than their more expensive authentic counterparts, thus causing the true manufacturer to lose profits and brand recognition.
If you purchase a counterfeit item, at least exhibit some farking prudence and common sense.
Where are your farking brains??
If you were stealing from my company, I would not welcome you with open arms either.
This is the same situation as if you were to go to China Town (NYC) and purchase a "knock off" Chanel bag and then have the audacity to walk into the Chanel store on Madison and expect to be treated with good service.
When you purchase any counterfeit item you are stealing from a company.
The counterfeit item(s) look like the real thing and people would be more inclined to purchase them rather than their more expensive authentic counterparts, thus causing the true manufacturer to lose profits and brand recognition.
If you purchase a counterfeit item, at least exhibit some farking prudence and common sense.
vraa: This guy isnt going to like to shop in India.
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Originally posted by S55inPA
hey guys,
i asked this earlier in the thread but nobody answereed.
how did the salesman know the rims were not brabus?
just by the center cap?
hey guys,
i asked this earlier in the thread but nobody answereed.
how did the salesman know the rims were not brabus?
just by the center cap?
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you can tell off the bat on how it looks that they arent brabus, just how they sit on the car, when i saw the picture of the car i knoew that it wasnt brabus, and after seeing so many of those rims on almost every modified mercedes, you get ammune to seeing them...
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8k... i think the salesman was referring to 20s. 8k is about right because 20s retail for 1895 a rim. it cant be 8k for 19s unless he was charging 3Gs just for the tires.
anyways, from my point of view, if i couldnt afford original brabus rims then id go for something cheaper like carlsson or lowenhart or a one piece rim rather then buy a replica.
and those examples you posted of the rims, all those replica companies are POS and i wouldnt buy from them. im sure there are atleast 10 different companies copying lowenhart LD1 design, but i still wouldnt buy any of them other than lowenhart or maya (cuz its the same company)
anyways, from my point of view, if i couldnt afford original brabus rims then id go for something cheaper like carlsson or lowenhart or a one piece rim rather then buy a replica.
and those examples you posted of the rims, all those replica companies are POS and i wouldnt buy from them. im sure there are atleast 10 different companies copying lowenhart LD1 design, but i still wouldnt buy any of them other than lowenhart or maya (cuz its the same company)
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Originally posted by CarlssonCRS
8k... i think the salesman was referring to 20s. 8k is about right because 20s retail for 1895 a rim. it cant be 8k for 19s unless he was charging 3Gs just for the tires.
anyways, from my point of view, if i couldnt afford original brabus rims then id go for something cheaper like carlsson or lowenhart or a one piece rim rather then buy a replica.
and those examples you posted of the rims, all those replica companies are POS and i wouldnt buy from them. im sure there are atleast 10 different companies copying lowenhart LD1 design, but i still wouldnt buy any of them other than lowenhart or maya (cuz its the same company)
8k... i think the salesman was referring to 20s. 8k is about right because 20s retail for 1895 a rim. it cant be 8k for 19s unless he was charging 3Gs just for the tires.
anyways, from my point of view, if i couldnt afford original brabus rims then id go for something cheaper like carlsson or lowenhart or a one piece rim rather then buy a replica.
and those examples you posted of the rims, all those replica companies are POS and i wouldnt buy from them. im sure there are atleast 10 different companies copying lowenhart LD1 design, but i still wouldnt buy any of them other than lowenhart or maya (cuz its the same company)
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I think that this discussion is endless. You will find the pro original (like me) and those who only want the look. The best thing to do is to buy what you want. As long as companies will be able to sell fake wheels legally, you can do what you want.
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Originally posted by hellcat
Nobody here is asking the important question! Where are the pics of the kid with the beater car and Brabus stickers sitting in front of the store?
Nobody here is asking the important question! Where are the pics of the kid with the beater car and Brabus stickers sitting in front of the store?
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Okay okay,
so I have convinced my dad to give me his toyota, but I found out that the registration is two years overdue and it will cost me serveral hundred dollars to get it legal. And if I hadn't blown most of the money I save not buying the originals in Vegas last week I wouldn't care
. So now I am looking for another beatup car. I do have a a late 60s benz that my dad is storing in the desert as well (really beatup) with a non-op registration that will cost only about $100 to bring up to date so I am wondering what I should do. I mean its still a benz and that would not be insulting enough to them.
As far as the logo, I had the following idea. I am going to take the Brabus "B" and take it to a print shop and have them print me up a 15"x15" logo, I am going to cut out the printed parts and use it as a stencil to paint with a spray can.
I have Brabus center caps and emblem all ready (ordered form ebay last week).
Sorry to say this but I am leaving town for a week or so, so this will take a bit longer than I had hoped. But you know what they say. Revenge is a dish best served cold. At this point I am not even upset with them, it will just be a fun little thing to do to keep myself busy.
so I have convinced my dad to give me his toyota, but I found out that the registration is two years overdue and it will cost me serveral hundred dollars to get it legal. And if I hadn't blown most of the money I save not buying the originals in Vegas last week I wouldn't care
. So now I am looking for another beatup car. I do have a a late 60s benz that my dad is storing in the desert as well (really beatup) with a non-op registration that will cost only about $100 to bring up to date so I am wondering what I should do. I mean its still a benz and that would not be insulting enough to them.As far as the logo, I had the following idea. I am going to take the Brabus "B" and take it to a print shop and have them print me up a 15"x15" logo, I am going to cut out the printed parts and use it as a stencil to paint with a spray can.
I have Brabus center caps and emblem all ready (ordered form ebay last week).
Sorry to say this but I am leaving town for a week or so, so this will take a bit longer than I had hoped. But you know what they say. Revenge is a dish best served cold. At this point I am not even upset with them, it will just be a fun little thing to do to keep myself busy.
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I installed the same Moven M13's on my E500 too. Just got it in yesterday. Here's a link to a thread with some pics.
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Originally posted by codex57
The Accord Coupe is close, but not exactly the same as CLK.
The Accord Coupe is close, but not exactly the same as CLK.
People have been knocking of BBS mesh-type wheels forever. And that is why BBS multipiece wheels have the BBS logo on every single titanium bolt.
Brabus doesn't have a leg to stand on legally unless the wheels have a trademark logo or are represented as Brabus wheels.
The salesman can sneer at the kid with the knockoff but he is wrong for doing so.
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Originally posted by Viktorious
you can tell off the bat on how it looks that they arent brabus, just how they sit on the car, when i saw the picture of the car i knoew that it wasnt brabus, and after seeing so many of those rims on almost every modified mercedes, you get ammune to seeing them...
you can tell off the bat on how it looks that they arent brabus, just how they sit on the car, when i saw the picture of the car i knoew that it wasnt brabus, and after seeing so many of those rims on almost every modified mercedes, you get ammune to seeing them...
