Nano Paint in the UK
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I visited a dealer in Oslo today, and they had 6 W/S211. We checked them all, and 5 of 6 had the CXXX code. Only one car did not, and that car was produced in August 2003. So the Salesman called MB Norway, and he got the exact same information that John got from MB UK. W/S211’s produced after ultimo September 2003 has the new paint technology. At least for European cars
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for what's it worth:
my paint code C744
Build Date 10/2/03
Received in US - sometime mid November
So I guess this confirms nano paint for '04 US delivered W211's built prior to 1/1/04.
my paint code C744
Build Date 10/2/03
Received in US - sometime mid November
So I guess this confirms nano paint for '04 US delivered W211's built prior to 1/1/04.
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Re: C means you have the new clearcoat.
Originally posted by konigstiger
Interesting thing I finally got around to actually checking and my code reads 744 which is brilliant silver. There is no C in front. My car was built in 10/02 at the Sindelfingen plant. So as I think this through the C in front, just as Oslo said, does mean your car HAS the new clearcoat. Sorry Oslo. It's been a very busy day to say the least. Sorry guys for misleading.
Interesting thing I finally got around to actually checking and my code reads 744 which is brilliant silver. There is no C in front. My car was built in 10/02 at the Sindelfingen plant. So as I think this through the C in front, just as Oslo said, does mean your car HAS the new clearcoat. Sorry Oslo. It's been a very busy day to say the least. Sorry guys for misleading.
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Re: Re: C means you have the new clearcoat.
Originally posted by Mortenstein
Hm, my W211 is brilliant silver,too - built 11/03. The color code says C744. Maybe it just stands for "color"?? Nice threat though
Hm, my W211 is brilliant silver,too - built 11/03. The color code says C744. Maybe it just stands for "color"?? Nice threat though
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But it's (basically) a free world. If you don't like diesel, don't buy one. If you don't like to work on it - change your profession. Simple, isn't it
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... and therefore I saved the money and did not order any alarm system from MB! No one cares anyway
... and therefore I saved the money and did not order any alarm system from MB! No one cares anyway
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Re: Re: C means you have the new clearcoat.
Originally posted by Mortenstein
Hm, my W211 is brilliant silver,too - built 11/03. The color code says C744. Maybe it just stands for "color"?? Nice threat though
Hm, my W211 is brilliant silver,too - built 11/03. The color code says C744. Maybe it just stands for "color"?? Nice threat though
"C" doesn't stand for color. Both my past cars, 2000 SLK230, and 2002 CLK430 didn't have the "C" prefix, they were simply 040 (Black).
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Originally posted by awiner
Per Karl in another thread,
"That article on German Car Fans makes it sound like this Nano coat is brand new as of Jan 1 2004. Service Info 98.00/14c came out yesterday as an update to 14b that came out in Dec 03. It was revised to list the expanded model range as of Sept 03.
No where in the DTB is Nano mentioned. It is PPG CeramiClear clear coat.
Here is the DTB:
Subject: Models 170, 203, 208, 209, 211, 215, 220, 230
"As of June 3, 2002 [YES 2002!], the model C215 is now painted with PPG CeramiClear clear coat which reduces visable scratching <snip>. ALL CeramiClear paint has a C in front of the paint code.
This clear coat is being phased in on the other models listed in the subject above.
As of July 14, 2003, all 170 and 230 models shall be painted using this clear coat.
Additionally, a limited number of C208 and W/S210 model vehicles , have also been painted using this clear coat BUT they do not have the C before the paint code. There are 3 C208 vins listed and 32 W210 vins listed. I will not list them here. Pmail me at aufever@prodigy.net if you want them or a copy of the DTB."
Per Karl in another thread,
"That article on German Car Fans makes it sound like this Nano coat is brand new as of Jan 1 2004. Service Info 98.00/14c came out yesterday as an update to 14b that came out in Dec 03. It was revised to list the expanded model range as of Sept 03.
No where in the DTB is Nano mentioned. It is PPG CeramiClear clear coat.
Here is the DTB:
Subject: Models 170, 203, 208, 209, 211, 215, 220, 230
"As of June 3, 2002 [YES 2002!], the model C215 is now painted with PPG CeramiClear clear coat which reduces visable scratching <snip>. ALL CeramiClear paint has a C in front of the paint code.
This clear coat is being phased in on the other models listed in the subject above.
As of July 14, 2003, all 170 and 230 models shall be painted using this clear coat.
Additionally, a limited number of C208 and W/S210 model vehicles , have also been painted using this clear coat BUT they do not have the C before the paint code. There are 3 C208 vins listed and 32 W210 vins listed. I will not list them here. Pmail me at aufever@prodigy.net if you want them or a copy of the DTB."
Very interesting. This explains why your car has the C-prefix although it's an 03...
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Hi Arnee,
I think between us all we have finally solved the mystery of what lies behind this nano (small) mystery. You are perfectly correct to point out that this is indeed the CeramiClear Coat and various journalists have abbreviated it to 'Nano' coating.
Some magazines have confused the issue by stating that it was not due out until January 04, however a few of us have actually got confirmation that vehicles manufactured after September 03 (I can only apply this to UK sourced, but I believe it applies to vehicles with a 'C' before the colour (Lack) three figured number) have the new paintwork.
I hope that this has been helpful, Oslo has given it a thorough field test and rates it very highly.
Bye for now.
John
I think between us all we have finally solved the mystery of what lies behind this nano (small) mystery. You are perfectly correct to point out that this is indeed the CeramiClear Coat and various journalists have abbreviated it to 'Nano' coating.
Some magazines have confused the issue by stating that it was not due out until January 04, however a few of us have actually got confirmation that vehicles manufactured after September 03 (I can only apply this to UK sourced, but I believe it applies to vehicles with a 'C' before the colour (Lack) three figured number) have the new paintwork.
I hope that this has been helpful, Oslo has given it a thorough field test and rates it very highly.
Bye for now.
John
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Well I'm pleased I got this nano paint but while it looks great, I'm not sure how much it has improved resistance to chips/scratches. After only a three months of driving (and I use it as a second car and have only 1700 miles on her) I still have identified a couple of small chips from mild road debris - 2 on hood and a couple on front bumper (from normal stuff like sand). Can't say if improved since not familiar with quality of paint finish it replaces. I'd be interested in hearing other experiences (any chips?)
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Originally posted by Hudson
Well I'm pleased I got this nano paint but while it looks great, I'm not sure how much it has improved resistance to chips/scratches. After only a three months of driving (and I use it as a second car and have only 1700 miles on her) I still have identified a couple of small chips from mild road debris - 2 on hood and a couple on front bumper (from normal stuff like sand). Can't say if improved since not familiar with quality of paint finish it replaces. I'd be interested in hearing other experiences (any chips?)
Well I'm pleased I got this nano paint but while it looks great, I'm not sure how much it has improved resistance to chips/scratches. After only a three months of driving (and I use it as a second car and have only 1700 miles on her) I still have identified a couple of small chips from mild road debris - 2 on hood and a couple on front bumper (from normal stuff like sand). Can't say if improved since not familiar with quality of paint finish it replaces. I'd be interested in hearing other experiences (any chips?)
I too don't drive my E320, my fiancee does...but I see a couple of rock chips also. Albeit, it's less than the amount my CLK430 obtained during the same amount of time. We've had the E320 for approx 3 months now. And yes, we drive alot, it's got 7,000 miles now.
Having previously owned 4 black cars, I have been quite sensitive to swirl marks. My car is tectite grey but it's still dark enough to see swirl marks -- or the lack thereof! I do not know if I should attribute the minimal amount of swirl marks to the ceramic clear-coat, nonetheless, I'm definitely ecstatic that the car doesn't have as much as my previous black cars.
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Re: Re: Re: C means you have the new clearcoat.
Originally posted by konigstiger
Scheißekopf...
Scheißekopf!
Scheißekopf...
Scheißekopf!
Are you on some kind of drugs?? First of all... your comment has absolutely nothing to do with the threat and second... if you try to insult people, either do it in your language or don't do it at all... funny though "Scheißekopf"... whatever that means. Btw... sh**head cannot be translated to make any sense - but I guess you used one of these funny online translators, right?!
OK, let's be friends again, I even have no clue why you tried to say rude things to me. Maybe you just had a bad day... lifting weights is a good way to get rid of any aggression.
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Re: Re: Re: C means you have the new clearcoat.
Originally posted by konigstiger
Scheißekopf! [/B]
Scheißekopf! [/B]
Another thing. Konigstiger is actually the German name of the infamous King Tiger (Königstiger) tank from WWII. What a nickname…..
Sorry guys. I just had to …….
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Originally posted by Mortenstein
Are you on some kind of drugs?? First of all... your comment has absolutely nothing to do with the threat and second... if you try to insult people, either do it in your language or don't do it at all... funny though - but I guess you used one of these funny online translators, right?! OK, let's be friends again, I even have no clue why you tried to say rude things to me. Maybe you just had a bad day... lifting weights is a good way to get rid of any aggression.
Are you on some kind of drugs?? First of all... your comment has absolutely nothing to do with the threat and second... if you try to insult people, either do it in your language or don't do it at all... funny though - but I guess you used one of these funny online translators, right?! OK, let's be friends again, I even have no clue why you tried to say rude things to me. Maybe you just had a bad day... lifting weights is a good way to get rid of any aggression.
Last but not least, stopped by my dealership and every '04 e-class on the floor has a C before the paint code.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: C means you have the new clearcoat.
Originally posted by Oslo
I’m a little bit confused myself. Being a Norwegian, the German language is mandatory in our schools, and Scheißekopf is a new word for me as well. And Mortenstein is German, so he should definitely know.
Another thing. Konigstiger is actually the German name of the infamous King Tiger (Königstiger) tank from WWII. What a nickname…..
Sorry guys. I just had to …….
I’m a little bit confused myself. Being a Norwegian, the German language is mandatory in our schools, and Scheißekopf is a new word for me as well. And Mortenstein is German, so he should definitely know.
Another thing. Konigstiger is actually the German name of the infamous King Tiger (Königstiger) tank from WWII. What a nickname…..
Sorry guys. I just had to …….
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You always get one???? (This is my sense of humour and certainly NOT meant as being in any way sarcastic)
Well done, it seems you might have one of the 'trial' versions.
John