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Old 02-01-2019, 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by CDIJeff View Post
To my knowledge the SBC has to be deactivated swapped then activated, since I think these get vin/code locked.
That is the reason you why you can't use a used or a junkyard SBC.
From your message it dose not seem that your mechanic deactivated your old one, then they probably haven't activated your new one.
That is the reason for the computer that runs Xentry to do all this in my case it was the Dell D630 with the C3.
The fastest way to tell if its activated would be just try to start and more the car out of park.
If you have a red brake error message they didn't do it right. Otherwise you can follow my write-up and check the pedal counter as well as the pump cycle life to see if it a really low number.
You can't really go off by noise since the new pump will probably be quieter since they are rebuilt to a higher standard then when they were made.
If your mechanic just pulled the SBC without deactivating it they probably need to put it back in then deactivate it, then swap the new one in.
I haven't done it out of sequence so I have no idea what will happen if you just take it out and try to put a new one in.
You really need to check Xentry, to do this without any of that information I can't really help without that information.
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1.) Hi, does this mean that i cannot use or install the new SBC pump because it was preowned? do i have to program it?

2.) my new sbc, after installing it gets hot and i can hear clicking sound, does this mean it is active and working?

Nope, I bought a used sbc pump, just looked for the compatible part number and bought one 300usd off eBay. Followed the procedures on xentry, bleed etc and all done. After that I could check the pedal count and other stuff on xentry which showed that it was used, meaning the pump retains information about its usage but itís not vin locked or coded.
Thereís a post also that you can do the swap with another Obd scanner that has specifics to Benz sbc pump and change it without a xentry. Read it a year ago in Mercedes medic I believe.
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Old 02-01-2019, 08:48 PM
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1. When you say new do you mean brand new / rebuilt from Bosch since you can't buy these new? Or was this taken from another vehicle then just swapped in?

If its used probably not, unless it was properly deactivated from the vehicle it came from then activated in yours but even then I can't prove that and I doubt anyone on this forum has done it that way.
Also I don't know what model pump numbers work with what vehicles, that I found out through a vin match. Last a used pump you are kinda gambling with how long it will last.

2. Mine does not get hot and doesn't make a clicking noise more of a humming noise from it building pressure.

3. I really have no idea other then the if your not getting any faults its probably a mechanical issue or software based that can't be seen without Xentry/Star.
2. Donít think it has to be properly deactivated/removed since 99% of eBay pumps are form accidents..
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Originally Posted by boygood View Post
1.) Hi, does this mean that i cannot use or install the new SBC pump because it was preowned? do i have to program it?

2.) my new sbc, after installing it gets hot and i can hear clicking sound, does this mean it is active and working?
2. It seems as a bad install, not bleeded correctly, not following procedures in xentry. Etc .

You bought it with the same part number?
compatible with your chassis?
or just ordered an sbc pump?

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Also, my w211 is european and the used pump I got is from an usa car.
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Old 02-01-2019, 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by cMazara View Post


2. It seems as a bad install, not bleeded correctly, not following procedures in xentry. Etc .

You bought it with the same part number?
compatible with your chassis?
or just ordered an sbc pump?
1. bought the part exactly the same part no, but its from a w219 chassis and mine is w211. But it fits perfectly.

2.so are u saying, if i dont follow properly the procedures in xentry, i might not be able to get it to start(sbc pump)?


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Nope, I bought a used sbc pump, just looked for the compatible part number and bought one 300usd off eBay. Followed the procedures on xentry, bleed etc and all done. After that I could check the pedal count and other stuff on xentry which showed that it was used, meaning the pump retains information about its usage but itís not vin locked or coded.
Thereís a post also that you can do the swap with another Obd scanner that has specifics to Benz sbc pump and change it without a xentry. Read it a year ago in Mercedes medic I believe.
on the bleeding procedure, will the pump be instantly activated and help with the bleeding? Or "after" u correctly bleeded it and finsih all the xentry procedure will it start to run or work?
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Hey there,
I'm new to the W211 world, so please be patient with me. Wasn't this pump recently declared under warranty for 25 years?
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Originally Posted by jaydub727 View Post
Hey there,
I'm new to the W211 world, so please be patient with me. Wasn't this pump recently declared under warranty for 25 years?
Yes, but that's for the US market. We never got an E200 in the US so the warranty wouldn't apply in a different country.
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when replacing sbc pump, do i need to remove the liquid first on the reservoir?
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when replacing sbc pump, do i need to remove the liquid first on the reservoir?
do not remove anything without the benz computer that disables it.

better search for the 25 year warranty.
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do not remove anything without the benz computer that disables it.

better search for the 25 year warranty.
the warranty does not apply in our country (philippines). i have benz tool to disable, though i want to check if those who remove their sbc, if they drain the fluid in the fluid reservoir first or not. its not mentioned on Wis
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Whatever you can get out of the reservoir with a suction pump, in the end its going to drip out of the lines and your going to have to fill it back up. As long as the pump has been turned off in Xentry you are fine.
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