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Old 07-07-2004, 10:00 PM
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Additional decontenting for 2005

I have the brochure for 2005, and posted is a picture of the revised climate control console. Here we see the previously announced elimination of the center vent. We also see that they have eliminated the Rest function, and also the center thumbwheel thingy.
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Old 07-07-2004, 10:10 PM
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the 4 zone on the 320 is a must-order option now. can you still get 4 zone on the 320?
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Did they get rid of the subwoofer on the HK entertainment package do you know?

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There is no more 4-zone on the e320.

And forget the vent, the cold/hot adjustment is gone!!!

That is enough to cause me to cancel my order.
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So they actually lowered the price of the 2005 e320 vs the 2004?

Options are up $20 here and there but Base MSRP actually dropped $300 from 48,795 to 48,500
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why does mercedes need to do this, for a $300 cheaper MSRP? or to eliminate unecessary features?? Part of owning a Mercedes is having all those buttons and wheels that you have no idea what their function is lol

PS-what are the buttons on the revised climate control that say "mode-" and mode+" ?? thanks
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What 2005 brochure do you have? My '05 CDI brochure as well as the '05 info on the MBUSA web site specifically state that the "rest" function is included as standard.
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I believe you will find that the E320 price went up. The $48,795 included $720 shipping so the comparative price would be $48,075 for 04.
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Originally Posted by DavidNJ
There is no more 4-zone on the e320.

And forget the vent, the cold/hot adjustment is gone!!!

That is enough to cause me to cancel my order.
maybe the W212 will pull all the missing pieces together, they clearly have content and packaging issues they are struggling with on this car. why can't you get 4 zone on the 320 if you are willing to pay for it as an option? did they run out of parts? clearly its an attempt to drive buyers to the more expensive 500 to get "premium"options.
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I thought I read on one of these threads that the 4-zone will not be available on the 500 either, not even as an option.
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That's the revised version? I like the current styling on the W211 better.
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It's MB USA's call

I think it's important to realize it is the genious marketing guys at MB USA calling these shots.

In Canada, MB Canada had fitted all E-class including the 2003 E320 with 4-zone as standard equipment.

Different option and standard equipment for different markets complain to your local MB head office!
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Even though I didn't include the picture, there is another picture of the 4 zone, which I did not post. I don't have a scanner, so I was taking them with a camera. On the 4-zone, the charcoal filter button has been replaced with the AC button (looks like they changed the logic here, which makes more sense, instead of having a AC Off button). The button for the AC Off is now blank. On the standard climate system, the mode button is the equivalent of the air flow direction buttons. Looking in the detailed option list, I did not see the Rest mentioned, but I need to compare the verbiage. The 2005 brochure is from I don't know when, but I believe it is brand new.

In another thread about the cupholders, I also mentioned that there is a disclaimer that the design of the center console is subject to change during the 2005 model year.
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the 4 zone on the 320 is a must-order option now
not only "now", it must be ordered always. I cannot stand the analog dial style climate control. (it is sad that 05 US e models using this low end cheap style part; however, bmw e60 does it, too. the old e39 obviously has better climate control. Did I see the picture from Civic brochure?)
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Originally Posted by alewifebp
, I did not see the Rest mentioned, but I need to compare the verbiage.
In the '05 CDI brochure as well as the web site, it's buried under "Specifications" then "Interior Features."

http://www.mbusa.com/brand/container...CDI&class=05_E

Is your brochure specific to the CDI or the entire E Class?

By the way, what was the function of the large, center dash vent - a return or output?
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the rest feature is retrofittable but not cheap. You have to replace center controls and also add a pump with some hoses in engine compartment.
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not only "now", it must be ordered always. I cannot stand the analog dial style climate control. (it is sad that 05 US e models using this low end cheap style part; however, bmw e60 does it, too. the old e39 obviously has better climate control. Did I see the picture from Civic brochure?)
I can't stand the standard climate control look, either. The 4-zone would have been a must have option if I was to get a E320.

This brochure was the entire product line. I have a feeling that the brochures that most people have are the 2004.5 brochures that included the CDI information.

The center vent was apparently an output, which when used in conjunction with the Blue thumbwheel in the middle, would dispel cool air in the winter to reduce driver fatigue.
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Yeah.. I have felt anything come out of mine.. In the winter for fatigue, now that is cool..

Can anyone confirm that they felt this come on in the winter?!

I have had my E500 since Feb and didn't notice as it has been warm here (Toronto) since..
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Just so you all know, I think the Ford Focus has four vents.
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Nope, I don’t like the new look, IMO very cheap - at least how it is depicted in this picture. I’ll have to check it out close up and personal as it relates to the total cabin. I never used the center thumb wheel air flow thing here in the metro Phoenix area so there’s no great loss there. The rest function did help a bit on a quick shopping run sorry to see it go but not a show stopper. And, as another member already questioned, why did they eliminate the center speaker?
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This brochure was the entire product line. I have a feeling that the brochures that most people have are the 2004.5 brochures that included the CDI information.
it is true that brochure is used for the entire product line but this picture may only represent one of the 05 e models.

are you sure this is a "US" 05 brochure? (or 05 MB taxi brochure) climate control looks like a cab (w211) I took in Copenhagen. (you can find a ton of w211 cabs there -- outside looks exact same as my car but inside looks very cheap. I took a w210 cab in Singapore few years ago -- no leather at all. but I was excited to take mb cabs and could not help comparing differences between cars.)
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The brochure is at home, but it is the US brochure.
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My dealer has an 05 CDI brochure and the 04 E Series brochure, sans CDI. When did this 2004.5 E Series brochure, including the 05 CDI, become available? Would like to get my hands on one. Thanks.
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Try not to think of "decontenting" the car as "stripping" it. Think of it as removing all of the buggy, infrequently used, will not be missed after 1 model year, overtaxing the design/repair cababilities of the engineereing/repair staff, greatly annoying when they act erratically, hurting the reputation of the brand, items.
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Originally Posted by Barry45RPM
Think of it as removing all of the buggy, infrequently used, will not be missed after 1 model year, overtaxing the design/repair cababilities of the engineereing/repair staff, greatly annoying when they act erratically, hurting the reputation of the brand, items.
Such as the strap to pull down the back seat armrest or the rubber mat for the front storage bin?


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