Motorola v600 & v710 phones for '05
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Motorola v600 & v710 phones for '05
There have been numerous posts dealing with phone questions and I'm not sure this has been nailed down. Here's what I know. For the US, the new Moto v600 (TDMA, GSM... eg AT&T) and V710 (CDMA... eg Verizon) are now listed for the Es in the MB parts system as of 7-22. Included are handsets, cradles, and various kits. Handsets are on back order. What a surprise. MBUSA suggests their availability by Sep/Oct, but I think (hope) they are quoting this long delay "to be safe." Not clear about pricing. Will try to get more on monday when the MBUSA phone "expert" is available.
I ordered the voice phone system with the car. As reported by tntmcj and now MBUSA cust service, cars ordered with the phone package were held up in Baltimore VPC for certain related parts (chips, programming, whatever). Those parts were due to arrive yesterday (Friday), allowing shipment (of these cars/wagons) to dealers perhaps next week. Not clear if the v60s will continue to be available.
If you're interested, the new phones are on the Moto site at:
v710 http://www.motorola.com/mdirect/hell.../default.shtml
v600 http://www.motorola.com/mdirect/hell...sh/index.shtml
They are also discussed extensively on Howard Forums at:
http://www.howardforums.com/forumdisplay.php?forumid=34
and Phone Scoop at:
http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/manufacturer.php?m=8
Unless there's another thread dealing with facts on the new phones (sorry I missed it, if there is one), how bout we use this one to post updates and questions related to the v600 and v710 as more hard facts become available, and for questions, of course. Just a suggestion.
I ordered the voice phone system with the car. As reported by tntmcj and now MBUSA cust service, cars ordered with the phone package were held up in Baltimore VPC for certain related parts (chips, programming, whatever). Those parts were due to arrive yesterday (Friday), allowing shipment (of these cars/wagons) to dealers perhaps next week. Not clear if the v60s will continue to be available.
If you're interested, the new phones are on the Moto site at:
v710 http://www.motorola.com/mdirect/hell.../default.shtml
v600 http://www.motorola.com/mdirect/hell...sh/index.shtml
They are also discussed extensively on Howard Forums at:
http://www.howardforums.com/forumdisplay.php?forumid=34
and Phone Scoop at:
http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/manufacturer.php?m=8
Unless there's another thread dealing with facts on the new phones (sorry I missed it, if there is one), how bout we use this one to post updates and questions related to the v600 and v710 as more hard facts become available, and for questions, of course. Just a suggestion.
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Why is MBUSA making it so difficult to understand an optional item that it seems many cutomers want. Fluidity in sales from fab to dealer to customer should be their top concern. Listen up MBUSA! 
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Memory card for v710
SanDisk will be making the TransFlash memory card used in the v710. Used to add storage for video clips, photos, MP3s, other.
Amazon will be selling a 128MB card for US$33.99 and a 64MB for US$27.99. Amazon is taking pre-orders now. Will also be available at Best Buy, Circuit City, Frys and other retailers.
The built-in memory of the phone is 10MB, so this will probably be a desirable add-on.
Amazon will be selling a 128MB card for US$33.99 and a 64MB for US$27.99. Amazon is taking pre-orders now. Will also be available at Best Buy, Circuit City, Frys and other retailers.
The built-in memory of the phone is 10MB, so this will probably be a desirable add-on.
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David: I hope you are right but my phone conversation last week with cust svc rep at MB was to the contrary -- that the handsets will be unique to MB, with special software, etc. Now we all know by now from Mikbox's work that this is pure bunk, and that it is not necessary to sell proprietary phones -- that there are physical connections possible that allow third party handsets to be used. If MBUSA continues to insist on unique handsets it should be seen for what it is, a pure profit enhancing tactic with little or new technical justification. I am not saying they can't insist on a cradle that interfaces properly, but the handset is another matter.
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Here's a tidbit to think about. The "draft" Moto User Manual for the v710 shows a menu category for Car Settings. And that's the stock 710, not the MB version. Of course it is just a draft copy of the manual. Go figure!?
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I heard that V600 (lose to the V710 that VZ will be releasing soon) cannot get the bluetooth to work properly in Acura TLs. They can make calls but the number doesn't show up in the dash nor the signal indicator..
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I've heard nothing about MB putting BlueTooth in the 05 E Series. Seems pretty unlikely to me. We're assuming that the 600 and 710 will hook up through a cradle in the tradional manner. Anyone heard differently? Not sure if MB versions of these phones will allow use of Bluetooth Wireless Headset HS810, for example. Very nice way to conduct a private conversation when you have guests in the car.
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The V710 isn't even out for regular Verizon customers yet (without regard to MB), so its understandable that the headsets are not available yet. Also, there is some question on the V710 and its bluetooth implementation. no one knows what bluetooth profiles are being supported by Verizon as of yet. This should not affect basic headset functionality, but there are a lot of gripes out about what the v710 is going to support in terms of bluetooth and whether one wants to spend the $$$ for that phone with a crippled bluetooth implementation.
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The V710's impelementation will support the profiles that will be most valuable. Car, headset, and dial up networking. If the car had Bluetooth, that would be great, but it does not seem to be that is happening, hence the availability of the V600 and V710, both Motorola phones. Anyway, this is good news, since both of those phones are very good (or at least spec wise the V710 is good).
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finally got in a cl65 today with the phone system and low and behold no craddle, so being the person i am i take my v60, and try to plug it in and it says phone not recognized, hopefully on monday when they pdi this car i will be able to check with the techs and see if the software is in the car, when i talked to the people at the bel-camp vpc on friday they really did not want to give me a straight answer as to what is going on, hope this does not turn into the nav b.s we had to go through on the first 03s to come in, that eventually turned into either a benz credit to the customer, or a buyback replacement. be carefull with this one guys, speak regularly to your mb rep, and most of all voice your opinion to mb customer assistance, recently delivered customers are called CRIs, remember they want that survey at 100%. also remember that the survey directly reflects your salespersons abilities, not benzes, but in the area`s where you can right comments blast them for not having the craddles or phones available at time of delivery, this area does not effect your salespersons csi
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My dealer had told me the cradles will be dealer installed, and the rest VPC or FACTORY installed. Based on the price, and that I believe V60is work with current cars, my guess (and the dealer's comment) was that MB was not providing the phone. He told me that in June after a 1 day session in Montvale. Everything he said seems to be bourne out by the subsequent annoucements and pricing.
In response to a post in this thread, Motorola recently released a flashable firmwear upgrade that fixes the Acura Bluetooth problem.
In response to a post in this thread, Motorola recently released a flashable firmwear upgrade that fixes the Acura Bluetooth problem.
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The parts department manager in Fairfield, CT says the 710 and 600 will have custom programming so as to interface with the Command system, as have previous phones, eg the v60's. He's guessing availability in October. Doesn't think it will be a repeat of the 03 Nav System catastrophe. While he has limited documentation on them, the handsets and cradles are not yet listed in the parts computer, so no pricing available for now. He's guessing $450-$650 for handset and cradle.
He only wishes MB would release the options when they release the cars. I think we agree.
Hey tntmcj, have you heard anything different?
He only wishes MB would release the options when they release the cars. I think we agree.
Hey tntmcj, have you heard anything different?
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I would be very surprised if the phone had more than a 'custom' silk screened logo. The 710 is a very complex piece of software. The 600 is still getting updates to fix bugs. A custom MB program for a standard feature that is already handled by he UHI?
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I'm told Bluetooth is standard in the '05 E60.
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I'm told Bluetooth is standard in the '05 E60.
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Bluetooth would be very nice.
BTW, it was just reported that Apple's iSync for Mac is being updated for new Moto and Sony/Erik phones. Since it now does the v720, it's a good guess it will do the 710 and 600. Key question is whether Verizon/MB (v710) will permit syncing of the phone book. Rumors say no on Bluetooth, but maybe yes on USB cable.
BTW, it was just reported that Apple's iSync for Mac is being updated for new Moto and Sony/Erik phones. Since it now does the v720, it's a good guess it will do the 710 and 600. Key question is whether Verizon/MB (v710) will permit syncing of the phone book. Rumors say no on Bluetooth, but maybe yes on USB cable.
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For a custom designed version of the v710, that does sound pretty early for availability, since Verizon doesn't even have it available yet.
From what I know, the v710 will not allow a phonebook sync via Bluetooth, but with the PhoneTools that will be sold by Verizon through their mobile office solution, I am 99% sure that you will be able to sync with USB. Since Bluetooth is an open standard, it was clearly a place in which Verizon would lose money that they make from the sale of the mobile office if you could do it for free with Bluetooth.
From what I know, the v710 will not allow a phonebook sync via Bluetooth, but with the PhoneTools that will be sold by Verizon through their mobile office solution, I am 99% sure that you will be able to sync with USB. Since Bluetooth is an open standard, it was clearly a place in which Verizon would lose money that they make from the sale of the mobile office if you could do it for free with Bluetooth.
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Mobile office for Mac? I'm not really sure. I don't think so. They just got the connection software for the Mac to be able to use the NationalAccess data plan, so I wouldn't hold your breath on that one.
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Mobile office for Mac? I'm not really sure. I don't think so. They just got the connection software for the Mac to be able to use the NationalAccess data plan, so I wouldn't hold your breath on that one.
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tachnically proficient in this area, but I still continue to wonder....why in the world does MB want to be in the phone business anyway? Or in the navigation business? Other outside suppliers do it so much better..can't they just give us a way/place to put our gear and interface it with some reasonable/basic expectations? I just can't tell you how much better the Street Pilot is than the factory navi system, or how much better service I've had from Nokia with my broken phone than the ridiculous service I got from MB on my last broken Motorola phone. Absurd. Why don't they get back to making cars that work and leave the peripherals to those who can properly sell and service their own gear?
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I think the problem here is that they DID work with an outside vendor, in this case Motorola, and probably got themselves in to some sort of long term contract to supply what are now ancient phones in the cell phone world. With the introduction of Bluetooth, car manufacturers now have a unified way to cheaply integrate phones in to their systems, and that is no doubt the way that MB should go, too. And if MB wants to, they can sell you the handset, or send you to your local wireless carrier of choice and buy any Bluetooth capable phone that is on the market. Can anyone say UHI? 
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Radio Shack is now taking orders for the v710 at their stores. Free shipping. See their web site.
http://www.radioshack.com/product.as...t%5Fid=17-1971
That may be good news in that it might be letting "MB hostages" see some light at the end of the tunnel for "our version." It does look like a sweet phone though. Questions:
Why would anyone let MB install a v60(x) in 05 E, when the v710 is going to be available? v60's are old phones!
And why would anyone pay for the voice phone prep at the VPC ($1450) when MB can't yet give you the phone or cradle? Pay them the full price when they can install a full phone.
http://www.radioshack.com/product.as...t%5Fid=17-1971
That may be good news in that it might be letting "MB hostages" see some light at the end of the tunnel for "our version." It does look like a sweet phone though. Questions:
Why would anyone let MB install a v60(x) in 05 E, when the v710 is going to be available? v60's are old phones!
And why would anyone pay for the voice phone prep at the VPC ($1450) when MB can't yet give you the phone or cradle? Pay them the full price when they can install a full phone.
