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Old Jan 19, 2011 | 09:54 AM
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My thought would be if you could create a dump of the micro processor that is inside the COMAND and flash a new one and sold that one in if you could fix it?
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Old Jan 22, 2011 | 01:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Mackhack
My thought would be if you could create a dump of the micro processor that is inside the COMAND and flash a new one and sold that one in if you could fix it?
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but seriously, do you know what I can do to get the single CD working again?
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Old Jan 22, 2011 | 01:29 PM
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Install the appropriate firmware and you should be good.
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Old Jan 22, 2011 | 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Mackhack
Install the appropriate firmware and you should be good.
Yes..mackshack is right install the firmware and you should be good. let me know if you can't find the firmware. i might have a copy.
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Old Jan 23, 2011 | 02:01 AM
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Yes..mackshack is right install the firmware and you should be good. let me know if you can't find the firmware. i might have a copy.
THX can you send it via file share ??

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Old Feb 8, 2011 | 08:46 PM
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Thanks for the credit

but before I upgraded to 46/06 last year, I was able to play DVD movies, only when car was stopped obviously. Now the only problem is that the single slot doesn't recognize the disk - doesn't matter if its dvd or cd....

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What software are you running now? PM me regarding ECE software.
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Old Feb 8, 2011 | 10:26 PM
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Hey Polar Bear your still around!
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Old Feb 15, 2011 | 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Polar Bear
What software are you running now? PM me regarding ECE software.
now I have 15/03 Version 5.182 W211 827 25 42

but the problem is the single CD slot doesn't recognize the CD - its trying to read but nothing is coming up on the screen and it said that there is no DVD for example...

The questions is how to repair it thorugh the Engineering menu....

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Old Feb 15, 2011 | 06:42 PM
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Worst case I said it before is to get a new chip in this COMAND. Maybe you bricked something?
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Old Feb 17, 2011 | 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Hubi
now I have 15/03 Version 5.182 W211 827 25 42

but the problem is the single CD slot doesn't recognize the CD - its trying to read but nothing is coming up on the screen and it said that there is no DVD for example...

The questions is how to repair it thorugh the Engineering menu....

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As you have probably noticed the firmware does a flash of the DVD drive when you upgrade, but obviously that is out of the question if the DVD drive does not work. If you attempt to upgrade the firmware now, exactly what does it do?
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Old Mar 16, 2011 | 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Polar Bear
As you have probably noticed the firmware does a flash of the DVD drive when you upgrade, but obviously that is out of the question if the DVD drive does not work. If you attempt to upgrade the firmware now, exactly what does it do?
The single CD slot doesn't read the CD/DVD - it works cause I can hear thet the disck is rotating inside but nothing comes up on the screen....

Can I flash everything agains through the eng menu? maybe then the single slot will work.....

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Old Mar 18, 2011 | 10:04 PM
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Hubi,

How did you downgrade your firmware?


From another DVD movie thread I just bumped...



Ok, so I usually skip over all of the DVD movie threads, as I've always barked that US COMANDs lack the hardware to play DVDs, save for the rare 2003s and the early 2004s that got DVD ROMs, in place of CD ROMs.

My 2004 E500 will not read DVDs at all, even MP3s on DVD, but it will play MP3s on a CD, after I updated the firmware on the COMAND. Great, super.

But, my 2005 SL600 does have a DVD ROM, and I've always been able to play MP3s on a DVD. Great, super.

But after reading this thread and a few others that have been bumped recently, I decided to pop in a movie to see what happened. I wasn't expecting anything but an error, but I'll be damned if it didn't load and start playing. Not great, not super. Ahhhh, why you ask? Because it activates the driver distraction feature and blacks out the screen, even though I was parked. But at least I was able to prove the theory that some of these cars do, in fact, possess the ability to read the movie.

None of the backdoor codes get me into the engineering menu. I'm guessing since I updated my map disc with the latest and greatest, I've screwed myself.

Any ideas?

Here's a video. Don't laugh at the beginning. A big *** bug, the size of a small rodent, landed on my hand.

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Old Mar 18, 2011 | 10:30 PM
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Benz-O, the codes to get into EM doesn't work anymore, but with a SD you can enable VIM and you should be good then. As a matter of fact, Harman Becker did equipped some of the COMANDs back then with DVD-ROM drives. I just got the confirmation from a buddy of mine who works for Harman Becker in Germany. But they are really rare according to him. I forgot why they did that for a short period of time but he told me why.
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Old Mar 19, 2011 | 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Mackhack
Benz-O, the codes to get into EM doesn't work anymore, but with a SD you can enable VIM and you should be good then. As a matter of fact, Harman Becker did equipped some of the COMANDs back then with DVD-ROM drives. I just got the confirmation from a buddy of mine who works for Harman Becker in Germany. But they are really rare according to him. I forgot why they did that for a short period of time but he told me why.

Yeah, the instant I put that new map DVD in, I screwed myself.

Will the SDS need to have Developer Mode enabled to activate VIM?
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Old Mar 19, 2011 | 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Benz-O-Rama
Yeah, the instant I put that new map DVD in, I screwed myself.

Will the SDS need to have Developer Mode enabled to activate VIM?
I doubt that the map DVD updates firmware of your COMAND. Doesn't your SL has the nav drive in the trunk like the W211s?
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Old Mar 19, 2011 | 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Mackhack
I doubt that the map DVD updates firmware of your COMAND. Doesn't your SL has the nav drive in the trunk like the W211s?

Yes sir, it's in the back. But I distinctly remember it updating the COMAND when I inserted the map. I found it odd too. It went through the entire update and reboot, just as if I were to use the firmware update disk.

However, I used the firmware update disk on my E500, in the COMAND drive, and updated that car that way.
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Old Mar 19, 2011 | 09:05 PM
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No SIR

Nav drive firmware update has NOTHING to do with COMAND firmware update. I'm battling this issue now for 2 weeks in different forums. Not sure why people just don't comprehend that those 2 units are completely separate and use 2 completely separate updates (not saying people are dumb, just don't understand I guess).
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Old Mar 19, 2011 | 09:06 PM
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I just popped the MAP DVD into my windows box, and the following files were on it:


E10-50_3069_NA.DB
GPS7_A412.DB
GPS222.DB
kN091NAx06.DB_XAC
kN091NAx06G32c.DB_GDB
kN091NAx06La.DB_LIT
SDB_1873b.DB

I didn't go digging into any of them, but you might recognize them.
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Old Mar 19, 2011 | 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Benz-O-Rama
I just popped the MAP DVD into my windows box, and the following files were on it:


E10-50_3069_NA.DB
GPS7_A412.DB
GPS222.DB
kN091NAx06.DB_XAC
kN091NAx06G32c.DB_GDB
kN091NAx06La.DB_LIT
SDB_1873b.DB

I didn't go digging into any of them, but you might recognize them.
Map DVD content without even looking
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Old Mar 19, 2011 | 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Mackhack
No SIR

Nav drive firmware update has NOTHING to do with COMAND firmware update. I'm battling this issue now for 2 weeks in different forums. Not sure why people just don't comprehend that those 2 units are completely separate and use 2 completely separate updates (not saying people are dumb, just don't understand I guess).

Oh, I certainly understand that they're mutually exclusive. However, I can also say with zero degree of uncertainty, that when I popped that map disk in the NAV drive in the trunk, my COMAND stated that it was doing a firmware update.
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Maybe it was flashing the firmware on the NAV drive itself, but displayed that output on the COMAND? Maybe....
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Old Mar 19, 2011 | 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Benz-O-Rama
Oh, I certainly understand that they're mutually exclusive. However, I can also say with zero degree of uncertainty, that when I popped that map disk in the NAV drive in the trunk, my COMAND stated that it was doing a firmware update.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!

What you saw is the update process of your Nav Drive... not of your COMAND

PS: even my dog jumped when I wrote that! haha
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Old Mar 19, 2011 | 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Benz-O-Rama
Maybe it was flashing the firmware on the NAV drive itself, but displayed that output on the COMAND? Maybe....
Read https://mbworld.org/forums/4579535-post247.html and you will be enlightened
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Old Mar 19, 2011 | 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Mackhack
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!

What you saw is the update process of your Nav Drive... not of your COMAND

PS: even my dog jumped when I wrote that! haha

Ok, so hold on.

I just pulled the files off of my COMAND firmware update disk, and I don't see any matching files. So, I'm willing to concede that my COMAND's firmware didn't get updated by the map disk, but something did.

I think we both agree now, that the MAP disk updated my NAV drive. But thinking about it, what the hell would it need to do that for? The map drive only contains....well map info, right? It's constantly spinning that DVD back there, and reading the map data real-time, no? It doesn't download the data off the DVD and store it on an HDD. It's just reading the disk, and performing I/O as needed. What's so different about this map disk, that it needed to perform an update on my rear NAV drive?

Or am I over analyzing this? It's the engineer in me, it's what we do.
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Old Mar 19, 2011 | 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Benz-O-Rama
Ok, so hold on.

I just pulled the files off of my COMAND firmware update disk, and I don't see any matching files. So, I'm willing to concede that my COMAND's firmware didn't get updated by the map disk, but something did.

I think we both agree now, that the MAP disk updated my NAV drive. But thinking about it, what the hell would it need to do that for? The map drive only contains....well map info, right? It's constantly spinning that DVD back there, and reading the map data real-time, no? It doesn't download the data off the DVD and store it on an HDD. It's just reading the disk, and performing I/O as needed. What's so different about this map disk, that it needed to perform an update on my rear NAV drive?

Or am I over analyzing this? It's the engineer in me, it's what we do.
Sorta wrong. Nav drive has a processor inside. This processor is nothing more than a micro controller that needs food in form of software. Software is written by humans and we all know we're not perfect (some think they are though) and so is the firmware that runs on the micro controller (has bugs). Smart as they are at Navteq, they're using the map DVD as a transport media to fix these bugs which they produced before. Perhaps they also add some new stuff that we might or might not see.

Each time you buy the latest map DVD the drive's processor has a routine to check if it needs to get updated. If yes, you will see the 2 progress bars in your COMAND showing you the update process of the nav drive's firmware. If you don't see them, it doesn't update anything.

The nav processor does more than just reading navigational data. It takes all the single voice samples and puts them together to generate a full sentence. Each number (digits) each word is one single sample on the DVD. When she whispers in your ear something like "Please use next exit and make an immediate right turn" then your processor in the trunk took 10 works put them together and voila you got the woman talking to you.

Sorry, my sarcasm came out a lil bit but makes sense what I'm trying to explain, right?

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