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Old Jan 17, 2021 | 11:12 PM
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How much does your E320CDI vibrate at Idle?

I just changed my engine mounts. Still there is too much vibration in the cab. What level is normal? Sure it's a diesel but my VW TDI seems smoother. What would you guys check for a next step to smooth out vibrations at idle?
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Old Jan 18, 2021 | 07:00 AM
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mine does not vibrate at all-I have to switch off the radio to hear the engine running and I have 223000 km on the clock -320 CDI 4MATIC,2008 mod
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Old Jan 18, 2021 | 01:07 PM
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What brand engine mounts did you use? Where were they manufactured? What was the part number.
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Old Jan 18, 2021 | 02:31 PM
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What brand engine mounts did you use? Where were they manufactured? What was the part number.
I do not know.I went to the MB workshop and they put them on with 2 years warranty.I usually go to MB workshop -any time I go somewhere else I regret it and then go to MB to repair it again ;-)
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Old Jan 18, 2021 | 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Lubo2018
I do not know.I went to the MB workshop and they put them on with 2 years warranty.I usually go to MB workshop -any time I go somewhere else I regret it and then go to MB to repair it again ;-)
You might want to claim that warranty.
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Old Jan 18, 2021 | 06:05 PM
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Did you do the transmission mount as well?
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Old Jan 19, 2021 | 02:27 AM
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I tossed corteco mounts on my e550, and the thing vibrates like mad at idle. Replaced the trans mount with an OEM one at the same time. Ill deal with it until these fail again and choose another brand.
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Old Jan 21, 2021 | 08:55 AM
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The mounts I got where ANCHOR 9562 and ANCHOR 8832 hydraulic mounts. They are built with the same rubber stiffness as stock. I think that excessive vibration destroyed the last mounts. I did not replace the transmission mount since it looked fine. I expect a straight six,and definitely a german straight six to run very smoothly. Currently my 06 jetta TDI idles smoother.

I am performing an injector test today or tomorrow to see if one of the injectors is failing. Problem is, although a failing injector does explain a rough idle, it ought to have other symptoms like black smoke at startup or under acceleration which it doesn't.

Today I am also swapping in a new EGR valve since the old one failed. There is some chance that the old dirty valve was allowing a small amount of exhaust to leak past at idle creating what amounts to a vacuum leak causing a rough idle.

I see there are some good write ups and videos about doing the injector test. In fact, there seems to be great support doing almost anything to this car. For future reference, are there any repair videos or write ups that this forum still needs or would find useful? If I'm fixing something I might as well snap some pictures.
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Old Jan 21, 2021 | 03:43 PM
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Update: The injector leak test showed all of the injectors where almost identical except for injector 6 where the diesel had only reached about half as high as the others after about 30 seconds of idling. Looks like I have found the problem.
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Old Jan 22, 2021 | 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by jbuscher
Update: The injector leak test showed all of the injectors where almost identical except for injector 6 where the diesel had only reached about half as high as the others after about 30 seconds of idling. Looks like I have found the problem.
I hope that fixes the problem for you. My 2008 E320 diesel with 121K miles is so quiet I have trouble hearing it run at idle and it has the original engine mounts.
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Old Jan 31, 2021 | 07:33 PM
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As above, the transmission mount should also be changed. One thing I've noticed with my car, sometimes it has a sweet idle at other times i can feel a lil vibration. I'm putting this down to the swirl flaps in the intake manifold, which when i replaced my swirl flap motor, i noticed wouldn't always return to the original position, there was either some play or wear somewhere along the line.
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Old Feb 4, 2021 | 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by jbuscher
The mounts I got where ANCHOR 9562 and ANCHOR 8832 hydraulic mounts. They are built with the same rubber stiffness as stock. I think that excessive vibration destroyed the last mounts. I did not replace the transmission mount since it looked fine. I expect a straight six,and definitely a german straight six to run very smoothly. Currently my 06 jetta TDI idles smoother.

I am performing an injector test today or tomorrow to see if one of the injectors is failing. Problem is, although a failing injector does explain a rough idle, it ought to have other symptoms like black smoke at startup or under acceleration which it doesn't.

Today I am also swapping in a new EGR valve since the old one failed. There is some chance that the old dirty valve was allowing a small amount of exhaust to leak past at idle creating what amounts to a vacuum leak causing a rough idle.

I see there are some good write ups and videos about doing the injector test. In fact, there seems to be great support doing almost anything to this car. For future reference, are there any repair videos or write ups that this forum still needs or would find useful? If I'm fixing something I might as well snap some pictures.
I also made the mistake of replacing motor mounts on a e320 (OM642) with Anchor 9562 mounts because RockAuto listed them as vehicle-appropriate (and I went for the $cheap). They are not sufficient. My car shakes like crazy when warming up, and there is no other explanation. When I did more research, I noticed that Anchor and RockAuto also list those mounts for e350 gas burners. They are not diesel mounts. I'm re-doing the job with Lemfoerders.
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Old Feb 4, 2021 | 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by jbuscher
The mounts I got where ANCHOR 9562 and ANCHOR 8832 hydraulic mounts. They are built with the same rubber stiffness as stock.
That's marketing bullshlt
​​​and it's not true. Only buy Lemforder mounts for these cars.
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Old Feb 5, 2021 | 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by flbiggs
I also made the mistake of replacing motor mounts on a e320 (OM642) with Anchor 9562 mounts because RockAuto listed them as vehicle-appropriate (and I went for the $cheap). They are not sufficient. My car shakes like crazy when warming up, and there is no other explanation. When I did more research, I noticed that Anchor and RockAuto also list those mounts for e350 gas burners. They are not diesel mounts. I'm re-doing the job with Lemfoerders.
Good to know did the new mounts correct the issue?
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Old Feb 5, 2021 | 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by tjts1
That's marketing bullshlt
​​​and it's not true. Only buy Lemforder mounts for these cars.
I hope that is the issue. I take it you have learned this from experience?
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Old Feb 5, 2021 | 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by jbuscher
I hope that is the issue. I take it you have learned this from experience?
Unfortunately yes.

Genuine lemforder left, "OEM" mount with less than 20k miles right installed by an MB specialist.

I always wondered why my C320 was much smoother than my E320 at idle. The C320 got lemforders when I bought it 3 years ago. The E320 got new mounts installed by the previous owner before I bought it. It came with the receipts. I put in lemforders last week and it finally smoothed out.

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Old Feb 6, 2021 | 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by tjts1
Unfortunately yes.

Genuine lemforder left, "OEM" mount with less than 20k miles right installed by an MB specialist.

I always wondered why my C320 was much smoother than my E320 at idle. The C320 got lemforders when I bought it 3 years ago. The E320 got new mounts installed by the previous owner before I bought it. It came with the receipts. I put in lemforders last week and it finally smoothed out.
That's quite the difference right there
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Old Feb 9, 2021 | 04:37 PM
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Add me to the list of people who bought the useless Anchor mounts and hated them. Just installed the Lemforders and the thing is silky smooth and much quieter too. Good call guys!
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Old Jun 21, 2021 | 12:57 PM
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Update, warm idle is good at times and has a lot of vibration at other times. Any known intermittent warm idle problems? Those mounts helped a bunch, especially at first, but it didn't solve the problem. Open to ideas.
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Old Jun 21, 2021 | 06:30 PM
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Did you do the transmission mount as well this time?
How about the bad injector? Was that issue addressed?
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Old Jun 22, 2021 | 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by rapidoxidation
Did you do the transmission mount as well this time?
How about the bad injector? Was that issue addressed?
Yes, the transmission mount is now new. I determined that the injector was not a problem. I also tried swapping in a newly rebuilt injector to see if there was any change. There was, the rebuild injector was worse and caused intermittent misses. Nevertheless, it was helpful to know what poor injector symptoms where like and my stock injector did not have them. Also, even with the misfireds from the rebuilt injector, the vibration from that was overwhelmed by the vibration that persisted regardless of which injector I was using.
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Originally Posted by tjts1
You might want to claim that warranty.
why?
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