Vanishing CDI Options
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Vanishing CDI Options
Well, I put my order in today for a 2005 E320CDI for European Delivery. I had ordered a Panorama Roof so I had to ask about the Power Rear Sunshade specifically. We put in an order that included 297 (Rear Side Window Blinds) and 540 (Rear Sunshade).
My dealer just called me back to tell me that the factory called and indicated that neither of those options is available any longer, perhaps due to a supplier change. There is even be talk of removing them from the "Sunroof' package. It is not clear to me whether this is unique to the CDI, or is true for the other variants as well.
I'm a little disheartened. For what is arguably shaping up to be one of the hotter new cars in the U.S. market, they're not doing a lot to make the car interesting aesthetically.
My dealer just called me back to tell me that the factory called and indicated that neither of those options is available any longer, perhaps due to a supplier change. There is even be talk of removing them from the "Sunroof' package. It is not clear to me whether this is unique to the CDI, or is true for the other variants as well.
I'm a little disheartened. For what is arguably shaping up to be one of the hotter new cars in the U.S. market, they're not doing a lot to make the car interesting aesthetically.
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I wish my car didn't have them. This is my 3rd car with them & I can say, I've never used the rear shade other than to show somebody "Whee look at this..." ...the side shades not even once. Now a rear camera, THAT would be nice!
It will be a nice car nonetheless! Enjoy it!
It will be a nice car nonetheless! Enjoy it!
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Originally Posted by Barry45RPM
I wish my car didn't have them. This is my 3rd car with them & I can say, I've never used the rear shade other than to show somebody "Whee look at this..." ...the side shades not even once. Now a rear camera, THAT would be nice!
It will be a nice car nonetheless! Enjoy it!
It will be a nice car nonetheless! Enjoy it!
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I was hoping the sunshade would keep the car cooler as well. I was already disappointed that the solar panel fan was discontinued. I'm wondering whether that's something that could be retrofit if I scrounged the parts?
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There is a manual rear window sunshade available in the MB accessories catalog (online). It looks pretty nice. Granted, it isn't as neat as the power sunshade, but it should serve the same function.
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Rest feature. I was under the impression it was gone..
I have the side and rear window shades that are in the catalog and they work great. The sides I use, the rear is too time consuming to put in and take out..
I have the side and rear window shades that are in the catalog and they work great. The sides I use, the rear is too time consuming to put in and take out..
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Given the discourse on this site, I too, was not expecting to see it, but 5 weeks or so ago, it appeared on the MBUSA site, and on my car. Heaven forbid the MB folks are reading the site and responding to our observations. 
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2005 Carlsson CD32 E320 CDI Inline-6
My CDI built 08/04 has the shades but not the rest feature...
It looks like the REST feature, according to the website, should be on the CDI, but I have a blank static non-button where rest should be.
Do we have a class-action lawsuit here for false-advertising?
I'm sure somewhere in the fine print it says "features and specifications subject to change without notice..."
KB
Do we have a class-action lawsuit here for false-advertising?
I'm sure somewhere in the fine print it says "features and specifications subject to change without notice..."
KB
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'05 E320 CDI;'04 S2k;'94 Supra TT;'10 QX56;'38 Buick;98 Port City Offset Late Model
There are running changes. It looks like the rest feature and the center console hit at the same time...start of August production. If tunnel mode is gone it probably left at the same time.
The rear window shade problem is new and interesting. They had just made it mandatory with a sunroof by eliminating the standalone sunroof option. I wonder if it is included if you order the sunroof or premium package.
The total of these changes would have be consider a BMW or the new Audi A6...which appears to be VERY popular in Germany.
P.S.
With all the griping this beginning to sound like a BMW E60 board!!!
The rear window shade problem is new and interesting. They had just made it mandatory with a sunroof by eliminating the standalone sunroof option. I wonder if it is included if you order the sunroof or premium package.
The total of these changes would have be consider a BMW or the new Audi A6...which appears to be VERY popular in Germany.
P.S.
With all the griping this beginning to sound like a BMW E60 board!!!
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Originally Posted by cdiken
Do we have a class-action lawsuit here for false-advertising?
I'm sure somewhere in the fine print it says "features and specifications subject to change without notice..."
I'm sure somewhere in the fine print it says "features and specifications subject to change without notice..."
I'm going to be quite vexed if my center console is changed. Proper use of a comfortable armrest saves me from a fair amount of neck pain due to disc trouble. It looks like that sliding door handle on the new style would poke right into one's arm.
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Originally Posted by pa28pilot
I was hoping the sunshade would keep the car cooler as well. I was already disappointed that the solar panel fan was discontinued. I'm wondering whether that's something that could be retrofit if I scrounged the parts?
I have "scrounged the parts" (well nearly all of them) for the solar panel retrofit. Since Distronic is done (the installation part), it looks like the time to work on solar panel is soon.
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Originally Posted by ToyCollector
ATS, my '05 has the REST feature and it is prominently displayed on '05 E320s and E500s in the new '05 brochure.
Maybe it has to do with the build date?
But, come to think of it, pretty much all the CDIs that I looked at had the REST feature.
Two questions tho...Whats the deal with the digital display for the A/C is it not an option on the CDI? Also the rear pillar vents that are in the other 211s, not an option with the CDI?
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Originally Posted by ToyCollector
ATS, my '05 has the REST feature and it is prominently displayed on '05 E320s and E500s in the new '05 brochure.
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Originally Posted by jester2ll2
Two questions tho...Whats the deal with the digital display for the A/C is it not an option on the CDI? Also the rear pillar vents that are in the other 211s, not an option with the CDI?
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Originally Posted by cdiken
It looks like the REST feature, according to the website, should be on the CDI, but I have a blank static non-button where rest should be. Do we have a class-action lawsuit here for false-advertising? I'm sure somewhere in the fine print it says "features and specifications subject to change without notice..."KB
Originally Posted by pa28pilot
Heh, funny you should mention that. A day or two ago, my salesman mentioned exactly that sentence. In fairness, he's been very helpful, within the confines of what the order book and Netstar will let him do. (AND he managed to pull a timely build slot out of thin air for me.) I'm going to be quite vexed if my center console is changed. Proper use of a comfortable armrest saves me from a fair amount of neck pain due to disc trouble. It looks like that sliding door handle on the new style would poke right into one's arm.
This is why 03 buyers were unsuccessful regarding MBUSA inability to retrofit the navigation, and the absence of 4-piston calipers for the front brakes in the e320.
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Vanished REST feature....advice wanted on how/what concessions to request from MBUSA
I have in my hand a 2005 E320 CDI brochure listing the REST feature as standard.
Of course, the brochure has fine print that says eg "options, specifications subject to change without notice...."
I have in my garage a 2005 E320 CDI car without the REST feature.
I would love to have that feature...I do make frequent stops of 1/2 hour or less.
Would it be a waste of time to ask MB for some sort of concession? Cash or a few oil changes free, or what? I'm looking for a response from someone that asked for and received a concession.
While it is perfectly legal for MB to change specs, its not ethical, or fair. A business WILL pay concessions for upsetting a customer. The only thing for the business to decide is whether to do it the easy way or the hard way. In this case, the hard way could mean I drive a BMW next go round instead of another MB.
Any thoughts?
BTW instead of deleting REST, it should have been expanded, to included programmable cool down for when you stop for a predictable amount of time. Let's say you have a lunch appointment and it is 95 deg and sunny. You know you will return to your car in about 1 hour. You set REST to initiate the cool-down fan 45 minutes after you park, so when you return it has cooled off whether you finish lunch on time or run 15 minutes over.
Ken
Of course, the brochure has fine print that says eg "options, specifications subject to change without notice...."
I have in my garage a 2005 E320 CDI car without the REST feature.
I would love to have that feature...I do make frequent stops of 1/2 hour or less.
Would it be a waste of time to ask MB for some sort of concession? Cash or a few oil changes free, or what? I'm looking for a response from someone that asked for and received a concession.
While it is perfectly legal for MB to change specs, its not ethical, or fair. A business WILL pay concessions for upsetting a customer. The only thing for the business to decide is whether to do it the easy way or the hard way. In this case, the hard way could mean I drive a BMW next go round instead of another MB.
Any thoughts?
BTW instead of deleting REST, it should have been expanded, to included programmable cool down for when you stop for a predictable amount of time. Let's say you have a lunch appointment and it is 95 deg and sunny. You know you will return to your car in about 1 hour. You set REST to initiate the cool-down fan 45 minutes after you park, so when you return it has cooled off whether you finish lunch on time or run 15 minutes over.
Ken
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Originally Posted by ToyCollector
Jocko, my rest button is in the middle of the right side dial. On E500s, it is a button in the middle of the horizontal array with the others.
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Jocko, give 'em hell. We have to fight for even our REST feature it seems.
Forgot you had a 500. Dammit man, that gets my collar all starched. And I dislike starched collars.
Forgot you had a 500. Dammit man, that gets my collar all starched. And I dislike starched collars.
Last edited by ToyCollector; Oct 2, 2004 at 09:47 PM.
