Things that would have been nice...
10-10-2010, 10:46 AM
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Things that would have been nice...
1. Being able to program keys to sync with memory settings (my 2007 Tahoe does this)
2. Being able to have more than 10 presets for each source (my 2007 Tahoe has 15 for each source)
3. Back up camera is not really very good - one in my 2007 Tahoe is much better and handles bright sun/shade contrast much better
Other than that, pretty happy with car!!
2. Being able to have more than 10 presets for each source (my 2007 Tahoe has 15 for each source)
3. Back up camera is not really very good - one in my 2007 Tahoe is much better and handles bright sun/shade contrast much better
Other than that, pretty happy with car!!
10-10-2010, 02:21 PM
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If not cooled but at least Ventilated seats in E350, console-mounted gear selector like one in coupe not column-mounted.
Genuine keyless entry and pushbutton ignition shouldn’t require the purchase of yet another pricey option package; cars one-quarter this price allow you to unlock their doors and push a button to start their engine without removing keyfob from purse or pocket.
Finally, this car should be gorgeous. It isn’t. It wears its beltline too high, and the sheet metal lumps on the rear fenders have no relation to any other design element, serving mostly to distend the sedan’s swollen rump.
Genuine keyless entry and pushbutton ignition shouldn’t require the purchase of yet another pricey option package; cars one-quarter this price allow you to unlock their doors and push a button to start their engine without removing keyfob from purse or pocket.
Finally, this car should be gorgeous. It isn’t. It wears its beltline too high, and the sheet metal lumps on the rear fenders have no relation to any other design element, serving mostly to distend the sedan’s swollen rump.
10-10-2010, 02:48 PM
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Two things I can't stand in this car. First, the indicator/wiper stalk is too low, it should have been reversed with the cruise control stalk. Secondly, the home link buttons for the garage should have been somewhere else other than the rear view mirror since I have to feel for them to figure out where my programmed button is and sometimes in haste I move the whole mirror. Other than that, the car with options I have is perfect for me.
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10-10-2010, 05:13 PM
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mb4z- Who made you "Mr Car Designer"? Why are you even trolling around here? Go back to your stinkin Infiniti Forum and worry about your own brand...
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10-10-2010, 05:56 PM
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Amen!!! This thread is for owners, not wannabes. If an owner doesn't like the way the car looks they would have never bought it in the first place.
10-10-2010, 07:12 PM
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Maybe allow someone's opinion without simply telling them to shut up. It also doesn't bode well as ambassadors to the brand. 
Anyway, in respect to his post about the "sheet metal lumps on the rear fenders," that opinion is not an unusual one. Those "lumps" are a historical reference to the early Ponton Mercedes (right before the Heckflosse models came out), and unfortunately not many consumers know this and certainly not any potential new buyers to the brand.
And that can easily be considered a design "error." The Hofmeister kink on BMWs has had time to sink in as the historical continuity with the BMW design. But it's such a subtle nod that it's not even noticeable, let alone understood. The W212 retro design Ponton "lump" is much more apparent.
If this Ponton nod gets a bit more publicity or as it becomes something accepted over time as a Mercedes historical reference, then it too, will be eventually overlooked. But right now it stands out as an kind of oddity with similar responses from the media and consumers as the BMW Bangle butt first received. The poster is not the only person to notice it being unusual; the car magazines and auto websites all commented on it when the W212 was first launched.
Anyway, in respect to his post about the "sheet metal lumps on the rear fenders," that opinion is not an unusual one. Those "lumps" are a historical reference to the early Ponton Mercedes (right before the Heckflosse models came out), and unfortunately not many consumers know this and certainly not any potential new buyers to the brand.
And that can easily be considered a design "error." The Hofmeister kink on BMWs has had time to sink in as the historical continuity with the BMW design. But it's such a subtle nod that it's not even noticeable, let alone understood. The W212 retro design Ponton "lump" is much more apparent.
If this Ponton nod gets a bit more publicity or as it becomes something accepted over time as a Mercedes historical reference, then it too, will be eventually overlooked. But right now it stands out as an kind of oddity with similar responses from the media and consumers as the BMW Bangle butt first received. The poster is not the only person to notice it being unusual; the car magazines and auto websites all commented on it when the W212 was first launched.
10-10-2010, 07:29 PM
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I only bought my E550 because of the new body design. IMO, new body design looks great! There is only one thing I don't really like about the car is the location of the turn signal stalk. Sometime I mistake Cruise control stalk with turn signal one. One feature I wish it had would be auto folding side mirrors.
10-10-2010, 07:56 PM
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Maybe allow someone's opinion without simply telling them to shut up. It also doesn't bode well as ambassadors to the brand.
Anyway, in respect to his post about the "sheet metal lumps on the rear fenders," that opinion is not an unusual one. Those "lumps" are a historical reference to the early Ponton Mercedes (right before the Heckflosse models came out), and unfortunately not many consumers know this and certainly not any potential new buyers to the brand.
And that can easily be considered a design "error." The Hofmeister kink on BMWs has had time to sink in as the historical continuity with the BMW design. But it's such a subtle nod that it's not even noticeable, let alone understood. The W212 retro design Ponton "lump" is much more apparent.
If this Ponton nod gets a bit more publicity or as it becomes something accepted over time as a Mercedes historical reference, then it too, will be eventually overlooked. But right now it stands out as an kind of oddity with similar responses from the media and consumers as the BMW Bangle butt first received. The poster is not the only person to notice it being unusual; the car magazines and auto websites all commented on it when the W212 was first launched.
Anyway, in respect to his post about the "sheet metal lumps on the rear fenders," that opinion is not an unusual one. Those "lumps" are a historical reference to the early Ponton Mercedes (right before the Heckflosse models came out), and unfortunately not many consumers know this and certainly not any potential new buyers to the brand.
And that can easily be considered a design "error." The Hofmeister kink on BMWs has had time to sink in as the historical continuity with the BMW design. But it's such a subtle nod that it's not even noticeable, let alone understood. The W212 retro design Ponton "lump" is much more apparent.
If this Ponton nod gets a bit more publicity or as it becomes something accepted over time as a Mercedes historical reference, then it too, will be eventually overlooked. But right now it stands out as an kind of oddity with similar responses from the media and consumers as the BMW Bangle butt first received. The poster is not the only person to notice it being unusual; the car magazines and auto websites all commented on it when the W212 was first launched.
10-10-2010, 08:15 PM
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Design is tough thing, there are always things that will appeal to some and not to others. There were two nice press pictures that were out there last year when the 212/207 launched, but most people outside of the enthusiasts here would have seen them and won't make the historical reference to the Ponton.
I don't see any harm in MB pointing to the reference more often. I've yet to see an ad with this (of course, I don't watch much TV.) It would be a good ad campaign, imho, to tie in the history (which MBUSA does do already but in a more generalized sense.)
As I mentioned in my post, most people pay little attention to this sort of aspect of design (or even care in the first place.) And that kind of makes something as a nod to the old Ponton with the new W212 go unnoticed, and instead interpreted as simply "lumps on a fender."
10-10-2010, 09:26 PM
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If not cooled but at least Ventilated seats in E350, console-mounted gear selector like one in coupe not column-mounted.
Genuine keyless entry and pushbutton ignition shouldn’t require the purchase of yet another pricey option package; cars one-quarter this price allow you to unlock their doors and push a button to start their engine without removing keyfob from purse or pocket.
Finally, this car should be gorgeous. It isn’t. It wears its beltline too high, and the sheet metal lumps on the rear fenders have no relation to any other design element, serving mostly to distend the sedan’s swollen rump.
Genuine keyless entry and pushbutton ignition shouldn’t require the purchase of yet another pricey option package; cars one-quarter this price allow you to unlock their doors and push a button to start their engine without removing keyfob from purse or pocket.
Finally, this car should be gorgeous. It isn’t. It wears its beltline too high, and the sheet metal lumps on the rear fenders have no relation to any other design element, serving mostly to distend the sedan’s swollen rump.
BTW, pmb, those pics are great. I love those pics of the old & new models.
10-10-2010, 10:08 PM
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yes, no doubt......I agree with the others....the pictures are magnificent......
thanx for sharing those.....I'll add them to my collection........
and I also agree with the sentiment about 'well, if you don't like the car.....uh...'
don't look at the car.........
couldn't be any plainer, hehe...
everyone enjoy their car!
thanx for sharing those.....I'll add them to my collection........
and I also agree with the sentiment about 'well, if you don't like the car.....uh...'
don't look at the car.........
couldn't be any plainer, hehe...
everyone enjoy their car!
10-10-2010, 10:17 PM
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Design is tough thing, there are always things that will appeal to some and not to others. There were two nice press pictures that were out there last year when the 212/207 launched, but most people outside of the enthusiasts here would have seen them and won't make the historical reference to the Ponton.
10-11-2010, 08:00 AM
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10-11-2010, 09:22 AM
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When I first saw the design, I was pretty iffy on those bumps as well but they grew on me . Those photos are awesome and really explain the whole concept.
I personally like the iPod connection in the glove compartment because now it has it's own shelf (unlike my 211 where it bounced around with the wifes' sunglasses).
I wish the mirrors folded as well but it isn't that big of a deal to me. I know from my work experience that when you're developing a product, you have to drop some features, or "lessen" them in order to include others - otherwise before you know it your cost will be three times what you can sell the product for.
Judging by the complete difference in driving feel between my 211 and my 212, all the technology in it (attention assist, etc) they had to cut back on some other areas like folding mirrors and such. I know this is a $60k+ car in most cases, but it could easily get to $100K if all the goodies we want were in it.
I personally like the iPod connection in the glove compartment because now it has it's own shelf (unlike my 211 where it bounced around with the wifes' sunglasses).
I wish the mirrors folded as well but it isn't that big of a deal to me. I know from my work experience that when you're developing a product, you have to drop some features, or "lessen" them in order to include others - otherwise before you know it your cost will be three times what you can sell the product for.
Judging by the complete difference in driving feel between my 211 and my 212, all the technology in it (attention assist, etc) they had to cut back on some other areas like folding mirrors and such. I know this is a $60k+ car in most cases, but it could easily get to $100K if all the goodies we want were in it.
10-11-2010, 11:41 AM
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remote start would be killer......as something you WOULDN'T have to pay extra for...
I got it installed on my 98F150 and it rocks
I got it installed on my 98F150 and it rocks
10-12-2010, 07:53 AM
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I wish the mirrors folded as well but it isn't that big of a deal to me. I know from my work experience that when you're developing a product, you have to drop some features, or "lessen" them in order to include others - otherwise before you know it your cost will be three times what you can sell the product for.
10-12-2010, 10:30 AM
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Believe it or not, It still makes sense. I have product in Europe that costs half as much as the US version. It could be anything - licensing costs, duty, voltage, etc. If there is additional cost added it comes out of somewhere else.
