So now that you've got your nice new W212.. If you could do it over again, would you?
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Did you get ABC? With ABC those cars stay flat as a pancake in the corners. Night and day difference over Airmatic.
Anyway, enjoy the new ride. S or CL is the way to go if you are seriously looking for a luxury/comfort car. And of course there's always the CL65 to consider for next time
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I wouldn't even consider the 5-Series personally until the M-Pack comes out.
Once it comes out, I might have some problems though, lol. We'll see.
Once it comes out, I might have some problems though, lol. We'll see.
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$6.5k MSRP. Includes adaptive drive, multi-contour seats, shadowline trim, anthracite headliner, increased top speed limiter, front M bumper, rear M bumper, rear diffuser, M wheels, M steering wheel.
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fyi, the M Sport package has been on the 550i 'build your own' website for a while now.....
$6.5k MSRP. Includes adaptive drive, multi-contour seats, shadowline trim, anthracite headliner, increased top speed limiter, front M bumper, rear M bumper, rear diffuser, M wheels, M steering wheel.
$6.5k MSRP. Includes adaptive drive, multi-contour seats, shadowline trim, anthracite headliner, increased top speed limiter, front M bumper, rear M bumper, rear diffuser, M wheels, M steering wheel.
But I stick with my original point, M-B using the AMG Package as standard is nice for us as we get the cool styling for free, but on the flip side, it makes so many of the 212's look like clones, and it will diminish the strong and alluring presence/styling of the package.
I still like the way BMW does it (and M-B used to do it with the E-Class), and I'd definitely factor the M-Pack into the price of what I'd pay for an F10. I'd know that I'd have a bit of a rare twist to a popular car.
I "complained" to MBUSA at how the AMG Pack being standard on the W212 will hurt the car and the cars notoriety once we see them more and more with said package. They said that the reason they did it had to do mainly with the fact that the W211 had such a positive response in '09 with the AMG Pack for free on it, they didn't want to throw a wrench in the momentum of the feedback.
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The car has been superb thus far. Its not just another car if you got the dynamic seat. Love the buttery smooth transmission and ride quality with hush hush cabin. I would buy it again.
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"Just another car" is purely subjective of course. What's special to some, isn't to others. Unfortunately, having a popular car means having a popular car.... It's popular for a reason, which is a good thing, but of course it means you'll see lots. I try not to let that deter me from how nice a car is.
On the flip side, having a popular car means you don't have to worry about sticking out like a sore thumb, and if you have a clean and nicely equipped example, yours will always have a specialness IMO.
On the flip side, having a popular car means you don't have to worry about sticking out like a sore thumb, and if you have a clean and nicely equipped example, yours will always have a specialness IMO.
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Don't forget the M pack includes the adaptive drive and the multi-contour seats/sports option. The cosmetic side of the M pack (special interior trim choices, wheels, steering wheel, bumpers, etc.) comes to $3800.00 if you eliminate AD and the seats/sports option. But the package comes bundled with all of it for $6,500 MSRP total.
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I asked the deleaer if I want to cancel my order and get my down payment back and he said it is too late now but if you do you have to wait until we sell the car and you can get your money back but whatever discount they gonna make to sell it it will be deducted from my payment.
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I asked the deleaer if I want to cancel my order and get my down payment back and he said it is too late now but if you do you have to wait until we sell the car and you can get your money back but whatever discount they gonna make to sell it it will be deducted from my payment.
I've done this in the past (changed my mind even when the car is in the pipeline) to get a better car (the one I want) and the dealer was always accommodating.
At the very least they should simply retail the car for what it cost you with none of this "discount" they want for selling it mumbo-jumbo. Why should they make money off you twice?
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Wow! I never knew I was of such influence here! Lol. I guess being an obsessive car freak pays off after all. 
Glad I could be of any help, and it's my pleasure. Enjoy that bad boy.
The W221 is an instant legend to me. In fact, it's the first Benz since the W126 era that really captivates with that almost mystical aura of being a product from such a superior brand. IMO it's the first S-Class since the W126 to properly be tied into the S-Class heritage in EVERY way, from design, to being over-engineered. And it reeks of that classic M-B confidence of dominance. Nice to have that back, and the W221 was that statement. Here's hoping the W212 does that in its respective class as well.
Glad I could be of any help, and it's my pleasure. Enjoy that bad boy.
The W221 is an instant legend to me. In fact, it's the first Benz since the W126 era that really captivates with that almost mystical aura of being a product from such a superior brand. IMO it's the first S-Class since the W126 to properly be tied into the S-Class heritage in EVERY way, from design, to being over-engineered. And it reeks of that classic M-B confidence of dominance. Nice to have that back, and the W221 was that statement. Here's hoping the W212 does that in its respective class as well.
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Man go for it..... all day Sat n Sun was driving around in carharts and a Harley T with the tunes cranked. Was pulled over by a cop I know from EMS just to figure out who the full sleeved maniac was driving an S with no Inspection sticker, When he saw me all he asked was what was i Packing, BHP 9mm
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Yikes, that is a steep option price.
But I stick with my original point, M-B using the AMG Package as standard is nice for us as we get the cool styling for free, but on the flip side, it makes so many of the 212's look like clones, and it will diminish the strong and alluring presence/styling of the package.
I still like the way BMW does it (and M-B used to do it with the E-Class), and I'd definitely factor the M-Pack into the price of what I'd pay for an F10. I'd know that I'd have a bit of a rare twist to a popular car.
I "complained" to MBUSA at how the AMG Pack being standard on the W212 will hurt the car and the cars notoriety once we see them more and more with said package. They said that the reason they did it had to do mainly with the fact that the W211 had such a positive response in '09 with the AMG Pack for free on it, they didn't want to throw a wrench in the momentum of the feedback.
But I stick with my original point, M-B using the AMG Package as standard is nice for us as we get the cool styling for free, but on the flip side, it makes so many of the 212's look like clones, and it will diminish the strong and alluring presence/styling of the package.
I still like the way BMW does it (and M-B used to do it with the E-Class), and I'd definitely factor the M-Pack into the price of what I'd pay for an F10. I'd know that I'd have a bit of a rare twist to a popular car.
I "complained" to MBUSA at how the AMG Pack being standard on the W212 will hurt the car and the cars notoriety once we see them more and more with said package. They said that the reason they did it had to do mainly with the fact that the W211 had such a positive response in '09 with the AMG Pack for free on it, they didn't want to throw a wrench in the momentum of the feedback.
I wasn't all that pleased with my 08 211. It was an "old" car with some new stuff in it that wasn't really that user friendly, had a harsh ride (for a Benz) and a really harsh tranny which made driving it a bit of a chore. I had come off an Audi A6 that I loved, so I always tried to be fair about it.
My '11 is a totally different care that really is a pleasure to drive in terms the mix between performance, luxury, features and they got the "little things" right - compared to my '08. Sure I still have the question as to why one has to pay extra for leather in a car that has a $63,000+ sticker price, but the MB Tex could be much worse.
As for the AMG, I know what you mean, but where I'm at, I am embarrassed to say that 80% of the E350's around are middle aged women. Hence they all drive the luxury package so my AMG stands out at least a little.
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You're absolutely right, I know that I'm gonna like the E especially that it is fully loaded, but even though I will still thinking about the S and what is like to drive it when I see it on the street.
I asked the deleaer if I want to cancel my order and get my down payment back and he said it is too late now but if you do you have to wait until we sell the car and you can get your money back but whatever discount they gonna make to sell it it will be deducted from my payment.
I asked the deleaer if I want to cancel my order and get my down payment back and he said it is too late now but if you do you have to wait until we sell the car and you can get your money back but whatever discount they gonna make to sell it it will be deducted from my payment.
As far as the salesman is concerned, he is an idiot. Once you resolve this issue with the sales manager and it will be resolved, make sure to let the salesman know he is history with you. Furthermore,if for some reason, they do not accommodate you just call MB and there will be a swift change in attitude.
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I know what you mean, E-Classes have always been plagued by the middle-aged women.
You just gotta turn your head, or not look inside, as you can't help who's drawn to a car. Hey, I'm not a middle aged woman, and *I* love the car!
So in N.J the majority of W212's have the Luxury Package? That is awesome to hear, as over here, most have the AMG Package. I have no problem if everyone has the damn car, I just want to retain SOME exclusivity with the AMG Package, as I've always sought after high volume M-B's with that little but very effective styling nuance.
It also just doesn't look right with the "older woman" driving in these super aggressive and sharp AMG Pack cars, just an awkward fit, and IMO the AMG Pack should remain an "Enthusiasts" option.
Anyway, like I said, if it's optioned well, and even better yet, has some little "clean-up mods here and there, and is kept nice and clean, it'll always be a hot commodity.
I too am supremely happy with the car so far. It's really the perfect all-arounder for what I want out of a car. The 3.5L has enough power for my needs, and keeps me out of trouble. Any more HP would be useless.... Heck, even some of the HP this thing has is useless. Would I take more power though? Of course!
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I picked up 2010 E550 w/ P2 and sport package about a month ago. I must say I really love this car. Fortunately, I have not had any issues that some of the members posted. This is my first Mercedes and I really enjoy driving the car. Suspension is really nice...I can barely feel mirnor bumps on the road.
However, if I had to do all over again, I think I probably go with E63 AMG.
However, if I had to do all over again, I think I probably go with E63 AMG.
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LOL!!!!
I know what you mean, E-Classes have always been plagued by the middle-aged women.
You just gotta turn your head, or not look inside, as you can't help who's drawn to a car. Hey, I'm not a middle aged woman, and *I* love the car!
So in N.J the majority of W212's have the Luxury Package? That is awesome to hear, as over here, most have the AMG Package. I have no problem if everyone has the damn car, I just want to retain SOME exclusivity with the AMG Package, as I've always sought after high volume M-B's with that little but very effective styling nuance.
It also just doesn't look right with the "older woman" driving in these super aggressive and sharp AMG Pack cars, just an awkward fit, and IMO the AMG Pack should remain an "Enthusiasts" option.
Anyway, like I said, if it's optioned well, and even better yet, has some little "clean-up mods here and there, and is kept nice and clean, it'll always be a hot commodity.
I too am supremely happy with the car so far. It's really the perfect all-arounder for what I want out of a car. The 3.5L has enough power for my needs, and keeps me out of trouble. Any more HP would be useless.... Heck, even some of the HP this thing has is useless. Would I take more power though? Of course!
I know what you mean, E-Classes have always been plagued by the middle-aged women.
You just gotta turn your head, or not look inside, as you can't help who's drawn to a car. Hey, I'm not a middle aged woman, and *I* love the car!
So in N.J the majority of W212's have the Luxury Package? That is awesome to hear, as over here, most have the AMG Package. I have no problem if everyone has the damn car, I just want to retain SOME exclusivity with the AMG Package, as I've always sought after high volume M-B's with that little but very effective styling nuance.
It also just doesn't look right with the "older woman" driving in these super aggressive and sharp AMG Pack cars, just an awkward fit, and IMO the AMG Pack should remain an "Enthusiasts" option.
Anyway, like I said, if it's optioned well, and even better yet, has some little "clean-up mods here and there, and is kept nice and clean, it'll always be a hot commodity.
I too am supremely happy with the car so far. It's really the perfect all-arounder for what I want out of a car. The 3.5L has enough power for my needs, and keeps me out of trouble. Any more HP would be useless.... Heck, even some of the HP this thing has is useless. Would I take more power though? Of course!
I still think it could do better off a stop. It still hesitates a bit. It acts sort of like the BMW 525i vs. the 535i. I also don't like that it hesitates when you need quick speed like to pass, but it is vastly improved over the previous model which hesitated and revved way too high (for something that didn't move like it revved)
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Question?
Dema, I'm sorry but I've got to ask. When you find your Mercedes lacking in so many ways why did you buy it? The base price of a 2011 BMW 335i is $8,400 dollars less that the base price of the your E class. The Base price of the 535i is $200 more than your E class. So price is not a part of the picture. With the hundreds of reviews available on the internet and the fact that you could have easily test driven the BMWs. (I will not accept temporary insanity as a plea.) WHY the Mercedes????
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Only had mine for about a week and the only thing I don't like is that the gas pedal is a bit hard and hurts my ankle after awhile of driving.. And that's a 110lb girl driving but then again I love big cars. I originally wanted a 535i but since the bf has a 5 series I wanted something different. But love the car nonetheless so far I got so many compliments. I would buy it again. 
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As a then Lexus only family, the E350 4matic purchased in April was my very first Benz. At the time, considered, BMW 528xi (now would be 535xi) and Lexus GS350. Probably should have looked at Audi too, but decided not to.
If I had to choose today, I would still choose the E350. GS350 looked old (due for refresh) and it had many trobules - noisy engine, rattles galore and also part of valve spring recall - Lexus LS was also in this recall). BMW due for F10 change.
I wish I could have chosen Parktronic and I could have added Active Blind spot assist a la carte without getting the driver's assistance package.
If I had to choose today, I would still choose the E350. GS350 looked old (due for refresh) and it had many trobules - noisy engine, rattles galore and also part of valve spring recall - Lexus LS was also in this recall). BMW due for F10 change.
I wish I could have chosen Parktronic and I could have added Active Blind spot assist a la carte without getting the driver's assistance package.
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The W221 is an instant legend to me. In fact, it's the first Benz since the W126 era that really captivates with that almost mystical aura of being a product from such a superior brand. IMO it's the first S-Class since the W126 to properly be tied into the S-Class heritage in EVERY way, from design, to being over-engineered. And it reeks of that classic M-B confidence of dominance. Nice to have that back, and the W221 was that statement. Here's hoping the W212 does that in its respective class as well.
The S cruises serenely: very quiet, smooth, well mannered, extremely comfortable for the driver, and even more so for passengers with the acres of space in the rear. The 550 powerplant and the responsive handling are plenty to keep me excited when I want to be. The more I use the convenience features the more I feel pampered (I just noticed the central LCD monitor can switch the speedometer dial display between MPH and KPH for Canadian touring, and I like the attention to detail where the speedo digits dim below the target cruising speed.) We'll see if I'm still in the same mood when the warranty wears off, but right now, no regrets.
Perhaps I do have one regret, I'm getting ready to store it for the winter [link].
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Only had mine for about a week and the only thing I don't like is that the gas pedal is a bit hard and hurts my ankle after awhile of driving.. And that's a 110lb girl driving but then again I love big cars. I originally wanted a 535i but since the bf has a 5 series I wanted something different. But love the car nonetheless so far I got so many compliments. I would buy it again.
