Checked out the new BMW 550 Today , some honest thoughts.
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K-A are you eating raw meat or smoking the drapes again? Your comments that old people should only drive the luxury model because the sport is out of place for them.
I'm getting long in the tooth,have two sport E's and traded my Porsche for another new one last Dec. I'm in my early sixties and I'm sure I could give you a run for your money.
Now give your head a shake because just maybe, you look just a little out of place driving an MB at 29, a sign you've accomplished something.(your words to that effect) All you've accomplished is that you can pay a $700.00 lease payment,nothing more. Now be nice. Some of this stuff is very condescending.
I'm getting long in the tooth,have two sport E's and traded my Porsche for another new one last Dec. I'm in my early sixties and I'm sure I could give you a run for your money.
Now give your head a shake because just maybe, you look just a little out of place driving an MB at 29, a sign you've accomplished something.(your words to that effect) All you've accomplished is that you can pay a $700.00 lease payment,nothing more. Now be nice. Some of this stuff is very condescending.
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Jeeeez, looks like I struck a nerve.
Maybe I wasn't clear. And mind you, I plan to one day be an "old guy" in cars that young dingbats might find "out of place" for me as well.
MOST older demographics (notice that I said, "people who don't seem to care much about cars, just want a Mercedes Sedan of a decent size") don't fit the character of the aesthetic practically forced onto them by MBUSA via the Sport Package. I'd bet that many would choose the Luxury Package, were it available to them (or had they known that it existed).
And about me being 29 in an E-Class, I agree, the car itself is more appropriate to older demographics, but I don't care. And I'm speaking about the Packages available.
I have no doubts about older folks abilities to race, in fact, I'd put my money on them. I'd also respect their opinion or judgement over cars in most cases, over younger peoples. Petee, I'm sure you can give me more than a run for my money, as my racing days are over, and I'm certainly probably not as skilled at it as many of "older people" are. I'm the first to say that I drive like a "Grandma".
Maybe I wasn't clear. And mind you, I plan to one day be an "old guy" in cars that young dingbats might find "out of place" for me as well.
MOST older demographics (notice that I said, "people who don't seem to care much about cars, just want a Mercedes Sedan of a decent size") don't fit the character of the aesthetic practically forced onto them by MBUSA via the Sport Package. I'd bet that many would choose the Luxury Package, were it available to them (or had they known that it existed).
And about me being 29 in an E-Class, I agree, the car itself is more appropriate to older demographics, but I don't care. And I'm speaking about the Packages available.
I have no doubts about older folks abilities to race, in fact, I'd put my money on them. I'd also respect their opinion or judgement over cars in most cases, over younger peoples. Petee, I'm sure you can give me more than a run for my money, as my racing days are over, and I'm certainly probably not as skilled at it as many of "older people" are. I'm the first to say that I drive like a "Grandma".
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OK,OK,OK....It's always hard to really to really pick a bone with you K-A. There is never any malice in what you say.
As for myself,I plan to live like a twenty year old until I croak.
As for myself,I plan to live like a twenty year old until I croak.
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K-A are you eating raw meat or smoking the drapes again? Your comments that old people should only drive the luxury model because the sport is out of place for them.
I'm getting long in the tooth,have two sport E's and traded my Porsche for another new one last Dec. I'm in my early sixties and I'm sure I could give you a run for your money.
Now give your head a shake because just maybe, you look just a little out of place driving an MB at 29, a sign you've accomplished something.(your words to that effect) All you've accomplished is that you can pay a $700.00 lease payment,nothing more. Now be nice. Some of this stuff is very condescending.
I'm getting long in the tooth,have two sport E's and traded my Porsche for another new one last Dec. I'm in my early sixties and I'm sure I could give you a run for your money.
Now give your head a shake because just maybe, you look just a little out of place driving an MB at 29, a sign you've accomplished something.(your words to that effect) All you've accomplished is that you can pay a $700.00 lease payment,nothing more. Now be nice. Some of this stuff is very condescending.
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Lol. And me the same. Age is just a number, and a working of nature breaking down your aesthetic. Just be happy if you're a Male, as aging is far more graceful for us, and not as diminishing in terms of what we'd like to achieve, and how we'd like to live. In this society of "young young young" garbage, it's making life VERY difficult for women.... Believe me, I personally know girls who are in their mid-late 20's who think that life's about to pass them by.
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Reeling the topic back, I think that the new 5 series is the best looking BMW sedan ever made. It is the first BMW sedan that I find more appealing to look at than it's Mercedes equivalent.
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It is a fine looking vehicle to be sure. I find that when new BMW models come out, the prior models quickly look dated (to my eye the exception being the 7 series). A well maintained Mercedes always looks good. Now, this is just my opinion. When I set out to get the E, I wanted something luxurious,but, also built like a Moroccan taxi cab. So, I went with a very upscale Moroccan taxi cab.
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You won't find many people agreeing with that assessment in this forum. Nor would I. The new Mercedes 212's have done nothing but grow on me since they were introduced. Not that the new 5 series is a visual dog, but typical BMW, nothing much new there. They would be foolish to mess too much with a design that represents in many peoples minds what BMW is all about. Regards. Ned.
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Considering this is a Mercedes forum with people who have decided to buy a um, Mercedes, then what could anyone expect as responses? That the BMW is so perfect that they're kicking themselves for not buying one? No.
But there's nothing wrong with the new F10. Because you prefer your own choices doesn't mean other choices are bad. They're just different. I don't know about other people but I choose on the merits of the individual product. And I'm really happy that there are so many good choices these days. And hey, I drive a MB, too.
But despite one's own personal biases, the F10 has garnered plenty of positive attention. So just because we all own a Mercedes doesn't mean the BMW sucks. Are you saying it to make yourself feel good about your choice? No reason for that, you made your choice based on your own desires (and hopefully nothing else.) If you're happy with your choice then there's absolutely no reason to defend it by implying the BMW is a POS.
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"At a press conference hosted by Bridgestone Corporation and the New York International Auto Show at the Geneva International Motor Show, the top three finalists for the World Car of the Year, World Performance Car, World Green Car and World Car Design of the Year awards were announced today. The winners will be declared at the New York International Auto Show on Thursday, April 21, 2011. From an initial entry list of thirty-nine (39) new vehicles from all over the world, then a short list of ten finalists, the top three contenders for the overall 2011 World Car of the Year title are, in alphabetical order: the Audi A8, the BMW 5 Series and the Nissan LEAF."
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Design Award of the Federal Republic of Germany goes to the new BMW 5 Series Sedan.
"The new BMW 5 Series Sedan has won Silver in the 2011 Design Award of the Federal Republic of Germany, presented annually by the German Design Council. The country’s most prestigious prize for product design is one of several honours already bestowed by the Design Council in recognition of the excellence of BMW Group Design. The Design Award of the Federal Republic of Germany is sponsored by the Federal Ministry of Economics and Technology and will be presented at a public ceremony in Frankfurt on 11 February 2011. The presentation forms part of the opening event of Ambiente, the world’s biggest trade fair for consumer goods."
btw, guess who won Gold by the German Design Council? The SLS AMG
But there's nothing wrong with the new F10. Because you prefer your own choices doesn't mean other choices are bad. They're just different. I don't know about other people but I choose on the merits of the individual product. And I'm really happy that there are so many good choices these days. And hey, I drive a MB, too.
But despite one's own personal biases, the F10 has garnered plenty of positive attention. So just because we all own a Mercedes doesn't mean the BMW sucks. Are you saying it to make yourself feel good about your choice? No reason for that, you made your choice based on your own desires (and hopefully nothing else.) If you're happy with your choice then there's absolutely no reason to defend it by implying the BMW is a POS.
Top Three Finalists Announced in All World Car Awards Categories
"At a press conference hosted by Bridgestone Corporation and the New York International Auto Show at the Geneva International Motor Show, the top three finalists for the World Car of the Year, World Performance Car, World Green Car and World Car Design of the Year awards were announced today. The winners will be declared at the New York International Auto Show on Thursday, April 21, 2011. From an initial entry list of thirty-nine (39) new vehicles from all over the world, then a short list of ten finalists, the top three contenders for the overall 2011 World Car of the Year title are, in alphabetical order: the Audi A8, the BMW 5 Series and the Nissan LEAF."
btw, one of the nominees for the world's best performance car is the SLS AMG. I have a feeling Mercedes/AMG will win that category.
Design Award of the Federal Republic of Germany goes to the new BMW 5 Series Sedan.
"The new BMW 5 Series Sedan has won Silver in the 2011 Design Award of the Federal Republic of Germany, presented annually by the German Design Council. The country’s most prestigious prize for product design is one of several honours already bestowed by the Design Council in recognition of the excellence of BMW Group Design. The Design Award of the Federal Republic of Germany is sponsored by the Federal Ministry of Economics and Technology and will be presented at a public ceremony in Frankfurt on 11 February 2011. The presentation forms part of the opening event of Ambiente, the world’s biggest trade fair for consumer goods."
btw, guess who won Gold by the German Design Council? The SLS AMG
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The F10 is definitely a great car, no getting around that. Whether it's better than a W212, or nicer, is up to the person. I've always loved the F10, but one thing that turned me off from the M-Pack one next to me yesterday, is how UNGAINLY it looks, the roof and greenhouse seem pretty high, the wheel wells are so large they make the stock 18's (or even 20's would look) puny, making the body look very hefty (it also looks very luxurious for a BMW). When you see it next to a W212, the 212 is much much more wedge shaped, which gives it a sleeker and sportier look IMO, whilst still looking more formidable. On the flip side, the F10 looks more athletic, graceful, and elegant.
Also, I think a lot of those awards go to first year cars. And the W212 won the "Design Award" for 2009 or 2010, or at least one (or more) of the major Euro "Design Awards".
Also, I think a lot of those awards go to first year cars. And the W212 won the "Design Award" for 2009 or 2010, or at least one (or more) of the major Euro "Design Awards".
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K-A are you eating raw meat or smoking the drapes again? Your comments that old people should only drive the luxury model because the sport is out of place for them.
I'm getting long in the tooth,have two sport E's and traded my Porsche for another new one last Dec. I'm in my early sixties and I'm sure I could give you a run for your money.
Now give your head a shake because just maybe, you look just a little out of place driving an MB at 29, a sign you've accomplished something.(your words to that effect) All you've accomplished is that you can pay a $700.00 lease payment,nothing more. Now be nice. Some of this stuff is very condescending.
I'm getting long in the tooth,have two sport E's and traded my Porsche for another new one last Dec. I'm in my early sixties and I'm sure I could give you a run for your money.
Now give your head a shake because just maybe, you look just a little out of place driving an MB at 29, a sign you've accomplished something.(your words to that effect) All you've accomplished is that you can pay a $700.00 lease payment,nothing more. Now be nice. Some of this stuff is very condescending.
I thought that was the age MB is aiming at?
WE'RE the age group now old timer, it's our turn............lol
and btw, raw meat is good.......and being that you're a a senior citizen....shouldn't you not be driving an E an maybe a S.......AND in your infinate wisdom
why can't you afford one having reached the pinnicle of life that you have? please share oh paragon of the world...........LOL..........
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I thought that was the age MB is aiming at?
WE'RE the age group now old timer, it's our turn............lol
and btw, raw meat is good.......and being that you're a a senior citizen....shouldn't you not be driving an E an maybe a S.......AND in your infinate wisdom
why can't you afford one having reached the pinnicle of life that you have? please share oh paragon of the world...........LOL..........
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I also chose my E over a (CPO) S, even though in the long run the E would cost me a lot more. I was surprised, as I had my heart set on the S, but the ole' drive back to back, and side-by-side comparison just doesn't lie, usually. It just fit me so well.
Also tried a CLS out, the AMG 55 was fun, but the regular CLS550 just felt very awkward a "fit" for me, so the E it was (and MAN the deals on the CLS550 were great.... About as much as I'm paying for my E during the entire Lease duration!).
Also tried a CLS out, the AMG 55 was fun, but the regular CLS550 just felt very awkward a "fit" for me, so the E it was (and MAN the deals on the CLS550 were great.... About as much as I'm paying for my E during the entire Lease duration!).
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I thought that was the age MB is aiming at?
WE'RE the age group now old timer, it's our turn............lol
and btw, raw meat is good.......and being that you're a a senior citizen....shouldn't you not be driving an E an maybe a S.......AND in your infinate wisdom
why can't you afford one having reached the pinnicle of life that you have? please share oh paragon of the world...........LOL..........
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I also chose my E over a (CPO) S, even though in the long run the E would cost me a lot more. I was surprised, as I had my heart set on the S, but the ole' drive back to back, and side-by-side comparison just doesn't lie, usually. It just fit me so well.
Also tried a CLS out, the AMG 55 was fun, but the regular CLS550 just felt very awkward a "fit" for me, so the E it was (and MAN the deals on the CLS550 were great.... About as much as I'm paying for my E during the entire Lease duration!).
Also tried a CLS out, the AMG 55 was fun, but the regular CLS550 just felt very awkward a "fit" for me, so the E it was (and MAN the deals on the CLS550 were great.... About as much as I'm paying for my E during the entire Lease duration!).
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LOL 'rice rocket' (racist as HELL btw)
side markers
wheels
plate lights
what is so bad about that?
and plus, I actually own my car, in the true sense of the word.......bought and paid for..........
but thanx for naming me a resident
side markers
wheels
plate lights
what is so bad about that?
and plus, I actually own my car, in the true sense of the word.......bought and paid for..........
but thanx for naming me a resident
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Actually K-A is great guy and always civil to a fault. On the other hand, Hyperion is a piece of work. I really think his mother dropped him as baby. After reading his posts for some time now, I think something is not quite right with him but I find it amusing to rattle his cage.
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Says the guy who takes out his frustration of his Wife dominating the E-Class buy with a Luxury Package.... Then claiming he loves the Luxury Package..... Then admitting that he secretly admires us with the Sport Package, which is why he's been our most un-valuable Member..... Then makes fun of people for "trying to turn a Luxury Sedan into a Sport Sedan"..... THEN again shows his insecurities and envious attributes by Posting up Threads asking about Star grill's, flat badges, big wheels, and Sprint Boosters (all things that you in theory, or distinctively attacked in the first place), trying to turn a car his Wife wants as nothing more than a comfort cruiser, into a tacky and awkwardly mismatched modded (star grill, especially on a Luxury model), rough riding (big wheels), and aggressively tuned (Spring Booster) Jekyll/Hyde Sedan.
Ouch.
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Actually K-A is great guy and always civil to a fault. On the other hand, Hyperion is a piece of work. I really think his mother dropped him as baby. After reading his posts for some time now, I think something is not quite right with him but I find it amusing to rattle his cage.
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Calm down everybody. These are just cars and everybody is entitled to their own tastes, desires, and needs. That's why stuff is made in all colors and all sizes.
There's no reason to belittle others for their choices and no need to defend your own.
There's no reason to belittle others for their choices and no need to defend your own.
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Are you serious?
Says the guy who takes out his frustration of his Wife dominating the E-Class buy with a Luxury Package.... Then claiming he loves the Luxury Package..... Then admitting that he secretly admires us with the Sport Package, which is why he's been our most un-valuable Member..... Then makes fun of people for "trying to turn a Luxury Sedan into a Sport Sedan"..... THEN again shows his insecurities and envious attributes by Posting up Threads asking about Star grill's, flat badges, big wheels, and Sprint Boosters (all things that you in theory, or distinctively attacked in the first place), trying to turn a car his Wife wants as nothing more than a comfort cruiser, into a tacky and awkwardly mismatched modded (star grill, especially on a Luxury model), rough riding (big wheels), and aggressively tuned (Spring Booster) Jekyll/Hyde Sedan.
Ouch.
Says the guy who takes out his frustration of his Wife dominating the E-Class buy with a Luxury Package.... Then claiming he loves the Luxury Package..... Then admitting that he secretly admires us with the Sport Package, which is why he's been our most un-valuable Member..... Then makes fun of people for "trying to turn a Luxury Sedan into a Sport Sedan"..... THEN again shows his insecurities and envious attributes by Posting up Threads asking about Star grill's, flat badges, big wheels, and Sprint Boosters (all things that you in theory, or distinctively attacked in the first place), trying to turn a car his Wife wants as nothing more than a comfort cruiser, into a tacky and awkwardly mismatched modded (star grill, especially on a Luxury model), rough riding (big wheels), and aggressively tuned (Spring Booster) Jekyll/Hyde Sedan.
Ouch.
