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hyp the last thing im here to do is argue with people.. but this guys just trying soo hard to make a point. When i keep telling him i dont care about his statements of inspection and random checks.. this guys a clown
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i have 6000K HID after market on my w212, almost a year, worry free. (thank god) In my 2008 Accord also i have them NEVER FAILED INSPECTION OR MELTED A HARNESS. All kits are built with a Circuit to cut off the charge incase of OVERDRAWING elected from the harness. Enjoy your car pal, and for your parking lights get some LED ERROR FREE bulbs like i do and match them up with your BULBS TEMPERATURE RATING (,000 k) i get compliments upon compliments.
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No problem. I'm just confused as to how someone can look at a factual document that details why HID bulbs can't be used in a stock housing, then another that describes in detail (from a Government agency on a different continent) how it is impossible to retrofit without dangerous glare and a multitude of other documents all saying the same thing and then conclude "it doesn't apply to me. My eyes are superhuman so even though every expert in the universe tells me that my visibility will be degraded - and oncoming drivers dangerously blinded - I'd rather listen to some company selling illegal products on the 'net telling me how great they are."
Make no mistake about. The "brighter" image you think you see is an optical illusion because of the excess stray lighting thrown on the ground in front of your car. The only way to get any range is to adjust the assemblies in such a way that must blind oncoming traffic.
I may not be an expert on many things, but I've forgotten more about lighting that the entire population of this forum will ever learn (inless Jeff from my office is here - is that you Jeff?)
I don't care if you guys want to stick candles into your headlight assemblies, but don't try to make anyone believe that you get better lighting from sticking an HID bulb into a halogen housing. Just admit that you're peeved that you didn't buy a P2 equipped car and now want to feel cool with the whiter lights - but remember - you've degraded your vision by doing so.
I challenge any of you to find an article by a reputable institute, scientific organization or government agency that demonstrates any benefit of placing HID bulbs into halogen housings. That person gets a nice gift card from me. So far, I'm the only one to have provided overwhelming evidence why it is a bad idea.
It is so much easier to attack the messenger than it is to try to find rebuttal evidence that doesn't exist. That's the way that schoolyard bullies play.
Make no mistake about. The "brighter" image you think you see is an optical illusion because of the excess stray lighting thrown on the ground in front of your car. The only way to get any range is to adjust the assemblies in such a way that must blind oncoming traffic.
I may not be an expert on many things, but I've forgotten more about lighting that the entire population of this forum will ever learn (inless Jeff from my office is here - is that you Jeff?)
I don't care if you guys want to stick candles into your headlight assemblies, but don't try to make anyone believe that you get better lighting from sticking an HID bulb into a halogen housing. Just admit that you're peeved that you didn't buy a P2 equipped car and now want to feel cool with the whiter lights - but remember - you've degraded your vision by doing so.
I challenge any of you to find an article by a reputable institute, scientific organization or government agency that demonstrates any benefit of placing HID bulbs into halogen housings. That person gets a nice gift card from me. So far, I'm the only one to have provided overwhelming evidence why it is a bad idea.
It is so much easier to attack the messenger than it is to try to find rebuttal evidence that doesn't exist. That's the way that schoolyard bullies play.
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I guess you overlooked links from NHTSA, the German TUV and the NZ Govt. I'm sure they're all morons. There were also a couple of links from car magazines testing these kits. All morons. You guys are so much smarter.
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lol im glad im not the only one who thinks CEB is a little crazy 
anyways, great job on the lights! i wish i could do a HID kit, but my car is leased so all i could get were those whitish blue 5K HID look-alike bulbs.
which brand are the 5K parking bulbs?
anyways, great job on the lights! i wish i could do a HID kit, but my car is leased so all i could get were those whitish blue 5K HID look-alike bulbs.
which brand are the 5K parking bulbs?
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Azn optics, vendor on the forums, he's big in the w204 forums since he owns one, anyway you can install hid's in a leased car, depending how many months you have left its still worth it to me. $100 for the kit. When the lease is up just return it with the hids, or take them back out your choice.Anyway the parking lights are 194 led wedge bulbs.. 5000k look great
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back to topic:
I could see why others would want to upgrade their lights because I rode
in my wifes Edge with her to get a tree, and the first thing I noticed was how 'different' her lights shone on the ground......
I'm completely used to my amazing, nice lights on my cars.....
even the side markers with the led's are an amazing color blue........
I could see why others would want to upgrade their lights because I rode
in my wifes Edge with her to get a tree, and the first thing I noticed was how 'different' her lights shone on the ground......
I'm completely used to my amazing, nice lights on my cars.....
even the side markers with the led's are an amazing color blue........
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Do all headlights glare like that in pics or is it the setup? It looks like lots of wild glare via the pics.
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I can speak for myself and say its def just the phone pic.. my headlights dont glare like that, and if they did i wouldnt keep them in and destroy the look of a 63K car.
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i've put my money where my mouth is and have offered a gift card for a report from a reputable institutions showing the benefits of putting HID bulbs in halogen housings. There is no regulatory body in the world that endorses the use of these bulbs in halogen housings - primarily because they cause excessive glare..
The internet is such a great place for bullies because by attacking the messenger with their fanbois they can feel like big men. Luckily the intelligent people recognize the glare and the hype from the fanbois and will reconsider putting this crap into their cars - not because it is illegal, but because it degrades their ability to see at night. The OP said the kit cost $100. Any reasonably intelligent person should be able to see that you cannot get a proper complete lighting kit for less than the price of a single HID bulb from an accredited manufacturer.
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wait wait, soo now your saying the problem is i didnt spend $300 on a hid kit? If i would have gotten a more expensive kit it would make it ok, there wouldnt be glare? My kit isnt complete, or proper? How so? Do you know what kit i have? Have you seen it?
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This is part of an article where a gentleman states he called his local dmv and state trooper barrack..
"I first called my local state police station and asked to talk to the officer who handles the traffic infractions. I asked him if HID's were illegal in halogen light vehicles. His initial reply was they do pull over drivers with them. I asked why and he stated cause they were blinding. Halogen based vehicles have higher lights cause halogen isn't as bright. Xenon is significantly brighter and in stock housings can be blinding cause they go straight into oncoming traffics eyes. Just find a way to angle it down some. I asked for an actual law stating they were illegal and he put me on hold. He came back to say they is absolutly no law in NY or federally saying they are illegal. You can get pulled over if they are preceived as blinding to the police officer but that's the extent. He went on to say he checked the supreme court rulings and there has never been a case brought up where someone or some group have contested it as a law.Basically in NY and on the federal level it is 100% legal to drive with them in halogen housings. Granted state laws can make aomething illegal that the federal level deems legal(though not vise versa) so check your state athorities. Next i tackled the notion of failing an inspection. I called my mechanic and he told me he has never failed nor knew anyone who failed someone who had aftermarket HID's. To verify i called the DMV to confirm i would pass an inspection. Again both state wide and federally there is no law against it. The only thing that is looked at when getting an inspection is if a vehicle has high beams and low beams. Im posting this for the people who are currently looking to see if its legal or not and may be confused by the people who really don't know what they are talking about or stating false statements they may have read or heard from someone else"
"I first called my local state police station and asked to talk to the officer who handles the traffic infractions. I asked him if HID's were illegal in halogen light vehicles. His initial reply was they do pull over drivers with them. I asked why and he stated cause they were blinding. Halogen based vehicles have higher lights cause halogen isn't as bright. Xenon is significantly brighter and in stock housings can be blinding cause they go straight into oncoming traffics eyes. Just find a way to angle it down some. I asked for an actual law stating they were illegal and he put me on hold. He came back to say they is absolutly no law in NY or federally saying they are illegal. You can get pulled over if they are preceived as blinding to the police officer but that's the extent. He went on to say he checked the supreme court rulings and there has never been a case brought up where someone or some group have contested it as a law.Basically in NY and on the federal level it is 100% legal to drive with them in halogen housings. Granted state laws can make aomething illegal that the federal level deems legal(though not vise versa) so check your state athorities. Next i tackled the notion of failing an inspection. I called my mechanic and he told me he has never failed nor knew anyone who failed someone who had aftermarket HID's. To verify i called the DMV to confirm i would pass an inspection. Again both state wide and federally there is no law against it. The only thing that is looked at when getting an inspection is if a vehicle has high beams and low beams. Im posting this for the people who are currently looking to see if its legal or not and may be confused by the people who really don't know what they are talking about or stating false statements they may have read or heard from someone else"
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Honestly even if they were illegal, id still install them.. its my 3rd car with aftermarket hid's and not a problem yet. CEB, altho i find you highly annoying i agree with you that many aftermarket hid kits are "blinding/aimed too high", but you simply cant deny the fact that my car has projector head lamps.. AND THIS IS THE REASON THERE NOT "BLINDING" AFTER INSTALLING AFTER MARKET HID'S. You can sit there and try to convince yourself, my crappy picture doesnt help.. Projector head lamps, whats that mean to you? All its doing is projecting a brighter white light.
