My Thoughts About E550 Coupe
02-16-2012, 11:24 AM
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KA, do not put down E coupes (especially 550). You have no idea what you're talking about. Just like W209/W208 CLKs it replaced (while those were also based on W203/W202 Cs chassis, felt as refined and drove just as good as W211/W210 E) it feels as refined as W212 E (more so than CLKs) while producing a much better handling ride. E coupes feel much more upscale (IMO on par with W212 Es) than any W204 C, including just refreshed 2012 versions.
KA, do not put down E coupes (especially 550). You have no idea what you're talking about. Just like W209/W208 CLKs it replaced (while those were also based on W203/W202 Cs chassis, felt as refined and drove just as good as W211/W210 E) it feels as refined as W212 E (more so than CLKs) while producing a much better handling ride. E coupes feel much more upscale (IMO on par with W212 Es) than any W204 C, including just refreshed 2012 versions.
In your own words (quote) I'm basically a simpleton when it comes to cars, and I think it's a good thing. It's gotta look good and be a good place to sit in, first and foremost. It has to inspire me and make me feel like I can own it "forever" and it'll always be fresh (timeless, classic inspired, etc.), be safe, have some amenities, etc. (end quote) So a chassis should be meaningless to you. As far as the other things...that's exactly how I feel about my coupe.
I agree with your assessment of the OP.
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02-16-2012, 12:42 PM
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Keep in mind that the E sedan is also based on the C chassis, albeit a stretched and widened version. Same chassis. This same chassis is also in the CLS and will likely find its way into the new S. Quite simply, this is a great chassis. It also allows MB to better insure that ALL of their vehicles are MB's, strong, solid, and well engineered. After all, they promised you a Mercedes Benz. From what I can tell, they are doing a fine job keeping that promise.
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Like others have said, the Jeep is so improved thanks to Mercedes.
Btw, that 2011 E550 would walk that Jeep on the highway, and in the quarter mile they would be fairly close.
I have driven a few SRT-8 Jeeps, and they are great vehicles. However, just cause you can't handle a RWD car in the snow, doesn't make the E550 coupe inferior.
Btw, that 2011 E550 would walk that Jeep on the highway, and in the quarter mile they would be fairly close.
I have driven a few SRT-8 Jeeps, and they are great vehicles. However, just cause you can't handle a RWD car in the snow, doesn't make the E550 coupe inferior.
02-16-2012, 01:35 PM
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I'll share the MSRP window sticker. I guess I wanted everything on my E when I built it!
Hey, not stating Es are inferior, just my experiences weren't AMAZING for long term!
Hey, not stating Es are inferior, just my experiences weren't AMAZING for long term!
02-16-2012, 03:14 PM
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I am test driving the '12 E Coup today. The vehicle has AMG Sport Package, PII, Split Folding Rear Seats, Lane tracking I guess. The price is 67k but I will not pay that if I decide to purchase. Now unloading my11 E350 4M...
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2011 E550C VIN : WDDKJ7CB6BF129734
PO : 0171536413
PO : 0171536413
Vehicle Information
20111 E550C
Region :Central
VPC :Baltimore
Region :Central
VPC :Baltimore
Code Description Price
E550C $55,450
359 Capri Blue $720
855 Almond/Black Premium Leather (Special Or $1,370
***** STANDARD ACCESSORIES *****
B12 Tool Kit
K15 Engine Service Interval
PPM Prepaid Maintenance Possible
P64 Memory Package
U10 Weight Sensing System - WSS
U12 Floormats
051 Factory Code
1U2 Snow screen for AC
108 Factory Code
232 Garage Door Opener
236 Daytime Running Lamp
242 Power Passenger Seat w/Memory
245 Trip Computer
249 Autodimming Mirrors
264 License Plate Holder
267 Baumuster Designation
275 Power Dr.Seat & Steering Col. w/ Memory
291 Passenger Side Airbag
301 Ashtray
309 Cup Holders
413 Panorama Sunroof
427 7-Speed Automatic Transmission
428 Steering Wheel Shift Paddles
461 English Inscriptions
475 Tire-Pressure Monitoring System
483 Advanced Agility Package
494 Emission Equipment
51U Black Roof Liner
551 Anti-Theft Alarm System
580 Climate Control-Manual
634 First Aid Kit
636 Collective Code
668 Sea Packing & Dispatch
690 Spare Wheel (Mini)
75V Tire Rating
763 Remote Key w/Panic Button
772 Sport Bodystyling
801 2011 Registration Year
887 Lockable Safe Box
919 Cooling Amplifier
986 VIN# Code
989 Vin Code
***** OPTIONAL ACCESSORIES *****
P02 P02 Premium Package: COMAND System with $6,450
889 : KEYLESS-GO
875 : Heated Washer System
810 : harman/kardon Sound System w/Dolby 5.1
619 : Cornering Lights
615 : Bi-Xenon Active Light System
608 : Intelligent Highbeam Control
600 : Headlamp Washing System
540 : Power Rear-Window Sunshade
536 : SIRIUS Satellite Radio
518 : iPod/MP3 Media Interface
512 : COMAND w/Navigation and Voice Control
401 : Heated and Active Ventilated Front Seats
218 : Dynamic Rear View Monitor
049 : iPod/MP3 Media Interface Cable
P35 : Lighting Package
R02 All Season Tires (Standard)
SPC Special Order $250
067 Illuminated Door Sills $750
070 Chrome Door Handle Inserts $60
104 Rear Deck Spoiler $300
293 Rear Side Airbags $420
318 318 Wood Trim Package: Wood / Leather St $760
289 : Wood / Leather Steering Wheel
284 : Wood/Leather Shift Knob
321 321 Appearance Package: 18" AMG Twin 5-S $1,270
950 : Sportline Package
795 : 18" AMG Twin 5-Spoke Alloy Wheels
409 : Multi-Contour Seats Front
736 Black Ash Wood Trim (Special Order)
997 997 DISTRONIC PLUS Package: DISTRONIC PL $2,650
233 : Distronic Plus w/PRE-SAFE Brake
230 : PARKTRONIC with Parking Guidance
SUBTOTAL $70,450
DESTINATION & DELIVERY $875
TOTAL $71,325359 Capri Blue $720
855 Almond/Black Premium Leather (Special Or $1,370
***** STANDARD ACCESSORIES *****
B12 Tool Kit
K15 Engine Service Interval
PPM Prepaid Maintenance Possible
P64 Memory Package
U10 Weight Sensing System - WSS
U12 Floormats
051 Factory Code
1U2 Snow screen for AC
108 Factory Code
232 Garage Door Opener
236 Daytime Running Lamp
242 Power Passenger Seat w/Memory
245 Trip Computer
249 Autodimming Mirrors
264 License Plate Holder
267 Baumuster Designation
275 Power Dr.Seat & Steering Col. w/ Memory
291 Passenger Side Airbag
301 Ashtray
309 Cup Holders
413 Panorama Sunroof
427 7-Speed Automatic Transmission
428 Steering Wheel Shift Paddles
461 English Inscriptions
475 Tire-Pressure Monitoring System
483 Advanced Agility Package
494 Emission Equipment
51U Black Roof Liner
551 Anti-Theft Alarm System
580 Climate Control-Manual
634 First Aid Kit
636 Collective Code
668 Sea Packing & Dispatch
690 Spare Wheel (Mini)
75V Tire Rating
763 Remote Key w/Panic Button
772 Sport Bodystyling
801 2011 Registration Year
887 Lockable Safe Box
919 Cooling Amplifier
986 VIN# Code
989 Vin Code
***** OPTIONAL ACCESSORIES *****
P02 P02 Premium Package: COMAND System with $6,450
889 : KEYLESS-GO
875 : Heated Washer System
810 : harman/kardon Sound System w/Dolby 5.1
619 : Cornering Lights
615 : Bi-Xenon Active Light System
608 : Intelligent Highbeam Control
600 : Headlamp Washing System
540 : Power Rear-Window Sunshade
536 : SIRIUS Satellite Radio
518 : iPod/MP3 Media Interface
512 : COMAND w/Navigation and Voice Control
401 : Heated and Active Ventilated Front Seats
218 : Dynamic Rear View Monitor
049 : iPod/MP3 Media Interface Cable
P35 : Lighting Package
R02 All Season Tires (Standard)
SPC Special Order $250
067 Illuminated Door Sills $750
070 Chrome Door Handle Inserts $60
104 Rear Deck Spoiler $300
293 Rear Side Airbags $420
318 318 Wood Trim Package: Wood / Leather St $760
289 : Wood / Leather Steering Wheel
284 : Wood/Leather Shift Knob
321 321 Appearance Package: 18" AMG Twin 5-S $1,270
950 : Sportline Package
795 : 18" AMG Twin 5-Spoke Alloy Wheels
409 : Multi-Contour Seats Front
736 Black Ash Wood Trim (Special Order)
997 997 DISTRONIC PLUS Package: DISTRONIC PL $2,650
233 : Distronic Plus w/PRE-SAFE Brake
230 : PARKTRONIC with Parking Guidance
SUBTOTAL $70,450
DESTINATION & DELIVERY $875
This baby was loaded! With taxes and registration, easily over $75K!
02-16-2012, 07:40 PM
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You guys, the OP is right. Even if he bought a "C-Class" whatever. He's not comparing much else except the features and power. The E class has the same features and power as the E coupe the OP has, so if he complains about the E coupe, he's not complaining about the "c-ness" of the car, he's complaining about the "e-ness" of the car. You guys obviously live in a world where the E class is the best of the best, but really, there ARE cars out there that have faster, More EFFICIENT, engines, more features and more technology.
You will get this crap from KA every time the E Coupe is mentioned. This is probably the 400th time KA has told us about the C chassis. For the record I read the E sedan chassis is based off the C chassis with a four inch longer wheel base. KA every thing that you so covet about your MB we E coupe owners also enjoy. Aesthetics, comfort, technology...it is after all a Mercedes. Same motor, same transmission, and since you have the AMG package as do I on my coupe minus body pieces Sports Tuned Suspension. It is an absolute plus that the coupe comes on a shorter wheel base. It provides the handling characteristics of a coupe (it weights 400 lbs less than the sedan). So it's time to give it up.
In your own words (quote) I'm basically a simpleton when it comes to cars, and I think it's a good thing. It's gotta look good and be a good place to sit in, first and foremost. It has to inspire me and make me feel like I can own it "forever" and it'll always be fresh (timeless, classic inspired, etc.), be safe, have some amenities, etc. (end quote) So a chassis should be meaningless to you. As far as the other things...that's exactly how I feel about my coupe.
I agree with your assessment of the OP.
In your own words (quote) I'm basically a simpleton when it comes to cars, and I think it's a good thing. It's gotta look good and be a good place to sit in, first and foremost. It has to inspire me and make me feel like I can own it "forever" and it'll always be fresh (timeless, classic inspired, etc.), be safe, have some amenities, etc. (end quote) So a chassis should be meaningless to you. As far as the other things...that's exactly how I feel about my coupe.
I agree with your assessment of the OP.
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02-16-2012, 07:58 PM
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Kinda bored hype. Looking for more power. I am not bored enough to pay out the @##! for the E550 though.
I didn't get to drive the vehicle today! I will this weekend.
I didn't get to drive the vehicle today! I will this weekend.
02-16-2012, 08:05 PM
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I think a E coupe on the E sedan chassis would be a pretty cool car. It would lengthen it a quite bit and give some more rear seating space. And then Mb could compete with the BMW 6. I think thats a sharp looking car.
02-16-2012, 08:10 PM
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192" and 73" is the E Sedan, and is around the 6 Coupe (BMW's are bigger than Benzes these days, so it's a bit bigger), and 185" and 70" is the E Coupe. That's a big difference in how elegantly you can proportion a vehicle (read: Compact VS true "Midsize").
Give me a Coupe based on the "EXACT" E chassis and I am all in, 100%. I love my stately Sedans and 4-Doors (I actually like it for styling as much as practicality), but that would be too good to pass up.
This is why I complain about the E-Coupe (notice I don't go into the E-Coupe Forums and do it, like our Chrysler touting new friend here does into a Forum that is completely unrelated to his specific cars).
02-16-2012, 08:38 PM
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I made the mistake of driving an A7 and *loved* it: the styling, the way it drives, the technology - everything. But I didn't want to buy new and even if I did, the sticker price put me off. I looked at the new A6 and on the inside it is the same as the A7 (except for 2 seats in the back and the tailgate), but I couldn't get past the bulbous rear light cluster. Then I looked at the S5 and drove a new one since there weren't any CPOs available in my area. It was nice: felt like my old A6 on the inside, but smaller. Much smaller. Small to the point that it felt like I strapped it on around me. Now that's not a bad thing and it drove nicely but I often have one of my kids in the back and I just didn't see them easily getting in and out of a booster on the backseat. Also, the face lifted S5 will be available this summer and features vastly updated technology (like the new A6 and A7) and the 3.0T (supercharged) engine which is more fuel efficient than the 4.2 V8 but otherwise as performant.
I drove the E550 sedan, E350 coupe and E550 coupe. The E550 sedan was lovely but I really wanted the streamlined look of the A7, S5 and E-class coupes. I really liked the space in the E coupes, much more so than the S5 and the back seat is more accommodating for a kid in a booster. I also love the pillar less design, wind down rear windows and glass roof - really improves the airiness of the car and when you open all the class it has most of the benefits of a convertible without the disadvantages especially for those of us living in rainy regions. and the lack of a B-pillar and the fact that the rear window.
In my mind, the biggest negative over the S5 is the lack of AWD. I wish Mercedes offered 4-Matic on the coupes and convertibles - I really think that gives Audi an edge. But I figure that when it snows, we'll use my wife's giant SUV!
So I ended up with an E550 coupe and it is the dog's bollocks!
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That's a nice Coupe. I'd choose it over any Jeep Gran (almost an ML) Cherokee. 
I have the AMG Wheels on my 2011 E, which are technically upmarket, but I love how clean those wheels sit on the "E Design Idiom" (had those on my 2010 E).
I have the AMG Wheels on my 2011 E, which are technically upmarket, but I love how clean those wheels sit on the "E Design Idiom" (had those on my 2010 E).
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02-16-2012, 08:52 PM
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The wheels are reminiscent of my A6's. I'm contemplating getting twin spoke AMGs for it but am not sure yet. I really like the way they looked on the E350 coupe I drove, but these are growing on me - they don't scream race car which is fine with me. I do have the 318 wood package (steering wheel and shift knob have wood on them.) I much prefer the AMG wheel that was on the E350, but when I looked into replacing the steering wheel, the AMG one is >$2k! Funnily enough the "premium" 318 wood wheel is "only" about $1k. Go figure!
02-16-2012, 08:56 PM
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Yeah, I loovve the AMG wheel.
Yeah, those wheels are all class, but sporty class. Definitely less aggressive and full-blow sporty than the AMG Package Wheels, but they really fit the Design idiom. My only issue with the ones I had wasn't the shape, but the finish, it's a little "dull", right? If it had a machine finish, or something with a slightly sharper silver-finish, IMO they'd be extra hot.
You got yours Used? Mind stating how much you paid and mileage? Looks like you found a gem.
Yeah, those wheels are all class, but sporty class. Definitely less aggressive and full-blow sporty than the AMG Package Wheels, but they really fit the Design idiom. My only issue with the ones I had wasn't the shape, but the finish, it's a little "dull", right? If it had a machine finish, or something with a slightly sharper silver-finish, IMO they'd be extra hot.
You got yours Used? Mind stating how much you paid and mileage? Looks like you found a gem.
02-16-2012, 09:22 PM
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dsayed you said it perfectly...
I drove the E550 sedan, E350 coupe and E550 coupe. The E550 sedan was lovely but I really wanted the streamlined look of the A7, S5 and E-class coupes.
I'll bet you didn't even notice that the E coupe is seven inches shorter and a whopping 3 inches narrower than the E sedan. To my eye the E coupe is perfectly proportioned. The elongated hood, sweeping pillarless roofline and abbreviated trunk deck make for a overall elegant design. Visually it looks longer than it is. Although the 6 series is the first and only BMW that I've liked. The overall design looks stretched as does the CL. I have said this before but, I would not have purchased an E if it had not been for the coupe. Luckily, I don't subscribe to "the MB World according to K-A". I am completely satisfied with the E coupe inside, outside and on the road and feel that it is worth the money MB asks for it.
I drove the E550 sedan, E350 coupe and E550 coupe. The E550 sedan was lovely but I really wanted the streamlined look of the A7, S5 and E-class coupes.
I'll bet you didn't even notice that the E coupe is seven inches shorter and a whopping 3 inches narrower than the E sedan. To my eye the E coupe is perfectly proportioned. The elongated hood, sweeping pillarless roofline and abbreviated trunk deck make for a overall elegant design. Visually it looks longer than it is. Although the 6 series is the first and only BMW that I've liked. The overall design looks stretched as does the CL. I have said this before but, I would not have purchased an E if it had not been for the coupe. Luckily, I don't subscribe to "the MB World according to K-A". I am completely satisfied with the E coupe inside, outside and on the road and feel that it is worth the money MB asks for it.
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"Yo, your E is sick dawg and I'm just jealous that I payed more for bragadocious power 'cause I'm either 4 feet tall and/oor lacking in the 'Natural HP' department on a lesser vehicle, and like coming to E Sedan Message Boards to put down the E-Class over inferior product and financial choices."
I feel ya know, man. I do feel bad for you.
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I do have to say this though people, I did post this thread in the incorrect forum! I did mean to post this in the E Coupe forum and not in the E sedan forum. My bad! All in all, I do appreciate all the inputs and speculations. It was entertaining!
Moderator, please relocate this thread to the correct forum please! Thanks!
Moderator, please relocate this thread to the correct forum please! Thanks!
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To me, the E sedan represents the classic approach to a premium mid-size sedan. The coupe has the shorter wheelbase as a proper coupe should and sleeker body work. It has the classic high end Mercedes pillar-less B pillar. A true classic if you remember cars from the 60's and 70's. Only now they don't have the air leaks. With all the windows down and the top open, it is 8/10ths convertible. Where the sedan feels roomy and spacious, the coupe feel more intimate, just as a good coupe should. Most importantly, it is immediately recognized as an E class coupe. I am having trouble seeing anything bad or wrong in this.
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Me, personally, it's a little snug and compact inside. Keep in mind I'm 6'4. The CL is way too far on the other end.
The only car on the market that is even close to persuading me out of my E is the new BMW 6 with M-Pack. It's the size of a 5-Series with 2-Doors.
However, I'm not looking for a Sporty Coupe, personally, more a Luxury GT (like the 6-Series) when I look for M-B/BMW type Coupes. If I want a sporty BMW Coupe, I'd get a 3-Series, if I want a Sporty M-B Coupe, I'd get a.... wait, C or E? That's the issue. Them using the exact same platform for both is making one essentially the better version of the other, to my eyes, instead of making the E a "2-Door version of the E Sedan", which it is not, technically speaking.
I'd love for an E-Coupe to be sized and with the obviously upmarket interior points of an E-Class. Basically, the CLS, but with 2-Doors. I have no doubts that the next "E-Coupe" will be based on the identical E-Chassis (same dimensions), move upward in terms of Luxury/GT aspect, and the C-Coupe will get rid of that hideous Accord/Pontiac Sunfire singular door frame and get more individualized from the C Sedan and elegant, allowing it to perhaps play a middle role between the more "stripped down" nature of the C-Coupe, and the more aesthetically "upmarket" E Coupe.
However, those looking for sportier/more Compact proportions (like the C-Class), with 2-Doors, and the premium styling gimmicks/features from the E line, and something that's much more upmarket and elegant than the new C-Coupe, certainly win out with the "E-Coupe" as it is tailored just for them. However, it missed me as someone who would have been an enthusiastic candidate for it if it fit those wants I have.
The only car on the market that is even close to persuading me out of my E is the new BMW 6 with M-Pack. It's the size of a 5-Series with 2-Doors.
However, I'm not looking for a Sporty Coupe, personally, more a Luxury GT (like the 6-Series) when I look for M-B/BMW type Coupes. If I want a sporty BMW Coupe, I'd get a 3-Series, if I want a Sporty M-B Coupe, I'd get a.... wait, C or E? That's the issue. Them using the exact same platform for both is making one essentially the better version of the other, to my eyes, instead of making the E a "2-Door version of the E Sedan", which it is not, technically speaking.
I'd love for an E-Coupe to be sized and with the obviously upmarket interior points of an E-Class. Basically, the CLS, but with 2-Doors. I have no doubts that the next "E-Coupe" will be based on the identical E-Chassis (same dimensions), move upward in terms of Luxury/GT aspect, and the C-Coupe will get rid of that hideous Accord/Pontiac Sunfire singular door frame and get more individualized from the C Sedan and elegant, allowing it to perhaps play a middle role between the more "stripped down" nature of the C-Coupe, and the more aesthetically "upmarket" E Coupe.
However, those looking for sportier/more Compact proportions (like the C-Class), with 2-Doors, and the premium styling gimmicks/features from the E line, and something that's much more upmarket and elegant than the new C-Coupe, certainly win out with the "E-Coupe" as it is tailored just for them. However, it missed me as someone who would have been an enthusiastic candidate for it if it fit those wants I have.
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