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Old May 15, 2012 | 04:06 PM
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More news on 2013 E-class

Not sure if you all saw this yet:

http://wot.motortrend.com/spied-refr...ic-205247.html

This is news from today!

It is for the wagon, but it says that the new 2013 e350 will have more HP. This confirms what two dealer salesmen said to me. However, some people here have said that is not going to happen and that the updates will be for 2014/2015. We will find out very soon! (My 2013 gets built in 5 weeks)
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Old May 15, 2012 | 04:16 PM
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Why are they ditching ponton fenders , I see no point of deleting this
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Old May 15, 2012 | 04:18 PM
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Cool 2013

thanks,
too bad the front end is all covered--hard to tell what it will look like.

Wish the 333 HP for 2013 was true but it seems that's for 2014????
Time will tell.
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Old May 15, 2012 | 04:43 PM
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I hear that the increase in hp is for the 2014 model, not the 2013s that are arriving late summer.
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Old May 15, 2012 | 06:11 PM
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Interesting they are already changing the v8 from two to one turbo
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Old May 16, 2012 | 12:35 AM
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Any of these changes will come for the U.S 2014 facelift model, NOT the 2013! M-B has ALWAYS revealed the upcoming changes to Europe first, and this will be no exception!

Car Magazine's are as bad at reporting the news as they are at doing fair comparison tests. 2013 facelift MY will be for Europe, and even that's a stretch.
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Old May 16, 2012 | 07:28 AM
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Interesting they are already changing the v8 from two to one turbo
what happened to the Jag \rjc?
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Old May 16, 2012 | 11:25 AM
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I want that diesel hybrid E Class that they displayed at the Detroit Auto Show last January!!! Merecedes claims 4.1 litres per 100km (about 55 mpg) and 550 ft lbs of torque.But they told me it will be "Europe only".
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what happened to the Jag \rjc?
He posted about it here:

https://mbworld.org/forums/e-class-w...options-2.html
Post #43, with a link to the 9 page sad saga.

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He posted about it here:

https://mbworld.org/forums/e-class-w...options-2.html
Post #43, with a link to the 9 page sad saga.

fookin' bloody hell!!!
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Interesting they are already changing the v8 from two to one turbo
They had to do something given that the current BMW 550 is half a second quicker than the E550. They should have done this to begin with as the E class V8 has generally always been faster than the 5-series V8 -- at least for straight line acceleration.

In any case I'm glad Mercedes is "fixing" this issue to stay competitive.

Can someone please explain to me though how they can avoid turbo lag with just one turbo charger?
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Old May 16, 2012 | 01:41 PM
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PS: I hope they know what they are doing. I'd hate for the E class to look like a slightly larger C class.

Originally Posted by bigh123
Not sure if you all saw this yet:

http://wot.motortrend.com/spied-refr...ic-205247.html

This is news from today!

It is for the wagon, but it says that the new 2013 e350 will have more HP. This confirms what two dealer salesmen said to me. However, some people here have said that is not going to happen and that the updates will be for 2014/2015. We will find out very soon! (My 2013 gets built in 5 weeks)
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Old May 16, 2012 | 02:26 PM
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I already have all the details & packaging for 2013 E-Classes in Canada (US will be no different).

There is no updated bodystyling.

The 4.6L is still a Biturbo.
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Old May 16, 2012 | 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Busta Riles
I already have all the details & packaging for 2013 E-Classes in Canada (US will be no different).

There is no updated bodystyling.

The 4.6L is still a Biturbo.
So what are the changes????
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Old May 16, 2012 | 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by WEBSRFR
They had to do something given that the current BMW 550 is half a second quicker than the E550. They should have done this to begin with as the E class V8 has generally always been faster than the 5-series V8 -- at least for straight line acceleration.

In any case I'm glad Mercedes is "fixing" this issue to stay competitive.

Can someone please explain to me though how they can avoid turbo lag with just one turbo charger?
I'll bet that has more to do with BMW's tighter geared 8-speed tranny.
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Old May 16, 2012 | 05:12 PM
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I've said it before and I will repeat it again. The 2013 E class is introduced in Europe in the Spring of 2013, therefore the changes. In North America, this will be introduced in Sept. of 2013 as a 2014 model.

I wish I was wrong because my wife has a 2013 E coupe being built June 19th. Any changes on this car will be very minor software improvements and absolutely nothing else!!!
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Old May 18, 2012 | 08:53 AM
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So here's your confirmation. Thanks to DexterMorgan on German Car Forum:

Edit: Damn! Scans don't show and I don't have time to upload. The Brochure scans show no changes.
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Old May 18, 2012 | 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by WEBSRFR
They had to do something given that the current BMW 550 is half a second quicker than the E550. They should have done this to begin with as the E class V8 has generally always been faster than the 5-series V8 -- at least for straight line acceleration.

In any case I'm glad Mercedes is "fixing" this issue to stay competitive.

Can someone please explain to me though how they can avoid turbo lag with just one turbo charger?
WEB, where did you get that info about the bmw 5 being .5 seconds faster then the Mb 5? just curious, because I read that the new bmw 5's new body style is heavier then the MB and the MB is faster. I'm just talking 0-60, and 1/4 mile. Every magazine is different depending on which brand they like, but just wondering what you have seen.
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Old May 30, 2012 | 01:41 PM
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Here is another blog post apparently about MY2014 AND MY2013:

http://mercedes-benz-blog.blogspot.com/2012/05/spy-2013-mercedes-benz-e-class-facelift_28.html

Comments people?
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Old May 30, 2012 | 03:08 PM
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I think our W212s will be better designed yet dinstictive look then facelift models considering no quad lights, upright grill , no ponton fenders available for next model
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