Report- Issues after Factory Warranty
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Report- Issues after Factory Warranty
Looking to get an extended warranty to push me out to additional 7years/75miles.
That being said, has anyone experienced any major mechanical issues after the factory warranty?
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That being said, has anyone experienced any major mechanical issues after the factory warranty?
Thanks.
06-10-2013, 10:37 AM
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That being said, you might want to revise your actual question and you may want to carefully understand warranties.
Of course people have had major mechanical issues after the warranty expired. In the '70's I had significant rust issues and had to replace the tranny in my Adenauer. In the '80's, my 6.3 had the usual hydraulic issues - also expensive to repair and well out of warranty.
As far as warranties are concerned, they do not extend an additional 7 years/75k miles but to that total.
Your car comes with a 4year 50k mile warranty. You can generally get warranties to extend that to various times and miles, but I know of no legitimate company that would extend the warranty to 11 years or 125k miles.
CPO warranties extend your warranty (mostly) by 1 year to 100k miles for a total of 5 years/100k and you can buy an extension to that to bring the total to 6 years/130k miles. You need to look carefully at what the warranty actually covers because very few are "bumper to bumper."
Does that help?
Of course people have had major mechanical issues after the warranty expired. In the '70's I had significant rust issues and had to replace the tranny in my Adenauer. In the '80's, my 6.3 had the usual hydraulic issues - also expensive to repair and well out of warranty.
As far as warranties are concerned, they do not extend an additional 7 years/75k miles but to that total.
Your car comes with a 4year 50k mile warranty. You can generally get warranties to extend that to various times and miles, but I know of no legitimate company that would extend the warranty to 11 years or 125k miles.
CPO warranties extend your warranty (mostly) by 1 year to 100k miles for a total of 5 years/100k and you can buy an extension to that to bring the total to 6 years/130k miles. You need to look carefully at what the warranty actually covers because very few are "bumper to bumper."
Does that help?
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That being said, you might want to revise your actual question and you may want to carefully understand warranties.
Of course people have had major mechanical issues after the warranty expired. In the '70's I had significant rust issues and had to replace the tranny in my Adenauer. In the '80's, my 6.3 had the usual hydraulic issues - also expensive to repair and well out of warranty.
As far as warranties are concerned, they do not extend an additional 7 years/75k miles but to that total.
Your car comes with a 4year 50k mile warranty. You can generally get warranties to extend that to various times and miles, but I know of no legitimate company that would extend the warranty to 11 years or 125k miles.
CPO warranties extend your warranty (mostly) by 1 year to 100k miles for a total of 5 years/100k and you can buy an extension to that to bring the total to 6 years/130k miles. You need to look carefully at what the warranty actually covers because very few are "bumper to bumper."
Does that help?
Of course people have had major mechanical issues after the warranty expired. In the '70's I had significant rust issues and had to replace the tranny in my Adenauer. In the '80's, my 6.3 had the usual hydraulic issues - also expensive to repair and well out of warranty.
As far as warranties are concerned, they do not extend an additional 7 years/75k miles but to that total.
Your car comes with a 4year 50k mile warranty. You can generally get warranties to extend that to various times and miles, but I know of no legitimate company that would extend the warranty to 11 years or 125k miles.
CPO warranties extend your warranty (mostly) by 1 year to 100k miles for a total of 5 years/100k and you can buy an extension to that to bring the total to 6 years/130k miles. You need to look carefully at what the warranty actually covers because very few are "bumper to bumper."
Does that help?
Just trying to find out if individuals have had major issues that they have paid for out of pocket, or were covered by CPO or Extended.
06-11-2013, 10:41 AM
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No, you didn't sound like you understood warranties as you said you were looking at one for an "additional 7years/75miles". In English, additional means "in addition to" whatever you already have. Did you really find a reputable company that will sell you a warranty to cover your car for 11 years or 125k miles? If so, please share it with the group.
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No, you didn't sound like you understood warranties as you said you were looking at one for an "additional 7years/75miles". In English, additional means "in addition to" whatever you already have. Did you really find a reputable company that will sell you a warranty to cover your car for 11 years or 125k miles? If so, please share it with the group.
Come on now, be nice. We all know what he meant...
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I think you would be surprised at how many people actually think it is "in addition to" the factory warranty.
The concept that the extended warranty can run concurrent with the factory warranty (but brings little or no advantage) is something that people can't wrap their minds around. You would be amazed at the amount of people who buy an extended warranty with a new car, then trade it in two years down the road and are surprised that they don't all of their money back because they "haven't used it."
Extended warranties are written and marketed to confuse the consumer - that's one way they make money. If the consumer thinks he is buying an additional seven years/75k then it is much easier to sell than a 2 year/25k extension.
So no - I think that is what he meant (although he'll never admit that now).
The concept that the extended warranty can run concurrent with the factory warranty (but brings little or no advantage) is something that people can't wrap their minds around. You would be amazed at the amount of people who buy an extended warranty with a new car, then trade it in two years down the road and are surprised that they don't all of their money back because they "haven't used it."
Extended warranties are written and marketed to confuse the consumer - that's one way they make money. If the consumer thinks he is buying an additional seven years/75k then it is much easier to sell than a 2 year/25k extension.
So no - I think that is what he meant (although he'll never admit that now).
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How a car is within warranty is pretty indicative of how it will behave outside of warranty.
As 2010's are just now coming off lease and most are still within warranty, I'm not sure that we've seen lots of high mileage W212's to determine if there are any significant issues that will rear their ugly heads regularly at 75 or 100k miles.
As 2010's are just now coming off lease and most are still within warranty, I'm not sure that we've seen lots of high mileage W212's to determine if there are any significant issues that will rear their ugly heads regularly at 75 or 100k miles.
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I think you would be surprised at how many people actually think it is "in addition to" the factory warranty.
The concept that the extended warranty can run concurrent with the factory warranty (but brings little or no advantage) is something that people can't wrap their minds around. You would be amazed at the amount of people who buy an extended warranty with a new car, then trade it in two years down the road and are surprised that they don't all of their money back because they "haven't used it."
Extended warranties are written and marketed to confuse the consumer - that's one way they make money. If the consumer thinks he is buying an additional seven years/75k then it is much easier to sell than a 2 year/25k extension.
So no - I think that is what he meant (although he'll never admit that now).
The concept that the extended warranty can run concurrent with the factory warranty (but brings little or no advantage) is something that people can't wrap their minds around. You would be amazed at the amount of people who buy an extended warranty with a new car, then trade it in two years down the road and are surprised that they don't all of their money back because they "haven't used it."
Extended warranties are written and marketed to confuse the consumer - that's one way they make money. If the consumer thinks he is buying an additional seven years/75k then it is much easier to sell than a 2 year/25k extension.
So no - I think that is what he meant (although he'll never admit that now).
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How a car is within warranty is pretty indicative of how it will behave outside of warranty.
As 2010's are just now coming off lease and most are still within warranty, I'm not sure that we've seen lots of high mileage W212's to determine if there are any significant issues that will rear their ugly heads regularly at 75 or 100k miles.
As 2010's are just now coming off lease and most are still within warranty, I'm not sure that we've seen lots of high mileage W212's to determine if there are any significant issues that will rear their ugly heads regularly at 75 or 100k miles.
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All warranties (even aftermarket) are measured from the date that the car was first put into service. Will this warranty take you up to 7 years from date the car was put in service or 11 years from that original date? I think we've determined that the mileage will run out at 75k miles total.
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You're getting confusing with that word "additional" again.
All warranties (even aftermarket) are measured from the date that the car was first put into service. Will this warranty take you up to 7 years from date the car was put in service or 11 years from that original date? I think we've determined that the mileage will run out at 75k miles total.
All warranties (even aftermarket) are measured from the date that the car was first put into service. Will this warranty take you up to 7 years from date the car was put in service or 11 years from that original date? I think we've determined that the mileage will run out at 75k miles total.
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The body of the post could read
"What issues have you had with your car after you passed the 50k mile mark.
Did you have an extended warranty and were the failures covered?"
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You're getting confusing with that word "additional" again.
All warranties (even aftermarket) are measured from the date that the car was first put into service. Will this warranty take you up to 7 years from date the car was put in service or 11 years from that original date? I think we've determined that the mileage will run out at 75k miles total.
All warranties (even aftermarket) are measured from the date that the car was first put into service. Will this warranty take you up to 7 years from date the car was put in service or 11 years from that original date? I think we've determined that the mileage will run out at 75k miles total.
SOME aftermarket warranties, like this one , WILL start 7 years from SIGN date, until 2020, NOT the in service date.
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I think many here would be interested in that.
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Auto POM (Mercury's broker)
I was able to receive the 7 years because of my low miles (12k).
Mercury is one of the better known extended, along with route 66.
Back to the topic now.
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Mercury warranty, Sold by http://extended-vehicle-warranty.com
Auto POM (Mercury's broker)
I was able to receive the 7 years because of my low miles (12k).
Mercury is one of the better known extended, along with route 66.
Back to the topic now.
Auto POM (Mercury's broker)
I was able to receive the 7 years because of my low miles (12k).
Mercury is one of the better known extended, along with route 66.
Back to the topic now.
Call them and ask them - I did. You'll be unpleasantly surprised.
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I'd advise you to read the contract carefully again. The years begin with the car in-service date. The sample contracts are carefully worded to disguise that fact by saying that coverage starts on the date the contract is signed and ends on the date specified in the contract. The end date will be xx number of months from the in-service date of the car.
Call them and ask them - I did. You'll be unpleasantly surprised.
Call them and ask them - I did. You'll be unpleasantly surprised.
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I know I'm really more of a lurker than a poster, but holy crap, if reading this thread isn't a quick way to burn through brain cells, I don't know what is.....
If the OP even bothered to do a proper search, they would have learned that the MB extended warranty for years and mileage is retroactive to the car's in-service date. If the car was purchased new or CPO at a MB dealer, they are eligible to purchase the warranty from any dealer at any time so long as the car is currently under the original warranty. If they had done a search, they would have learned that there's a woman named Erin (I think) at a MB dealer in California who's selling the extended warranty over the phone for $1,700.
Now, if one chooses to blow good money on an after-market warranty (whose cost is bound to be close to if not at the $1,700 price-point), then they're the one who's going to learn the hard way. Good luck getting a MB dealer to cooperate with an aftermarket warranty company the way you want them to. They'll be paying possibly thousands of dollars to the dealer, and then waiting for the warranty company to send them a check (all the while giving them time to determine if the repair is truly covered in the warranty agreement). And wait - here's the funny part.....just wait for the warranty to be half-way expired only to discover that they're going out of business, and it'll cost just as much in legal feels to recoup their remaining warranty coverage.
There's nothing wrong with spending good money on a product that will need costly TLC somewhere down the line. Are there after-market warranty shops that might provide what the OP is describing, possibly. But I just don't get people who want to play with the big boys on the ultimate cheap. If it's too good to be true - it probably is.......
If the OP even bothered to do a proper search, they would have learned that the MB extended warranty for years and mileage is retroactive to the car's in-service date. If the car was purchased new or CPO at a MB dealer, they are eligible to purchase the warranty from any dealer at any time so long as the car is currently under the original warranty. If they had done a search, they would have learned that there's a woman named Erin (I think) at a MB dealer in California who's selling the extended warranty over the phone for $1,700.
Now, if one chooses to blow good money on an after-market warranty (whose cost is bound to be close to if not at the $1,700 price-point), then they're the one who's going to learn the hard way. Good luck getting a MB dealer to cooperate with an aftermarket warranty company the way you want them to. They'll be paying possibly thousands of dollars to the dealer, and then waiting for the warranty company to send them a check (all the while giving them time to determine if the repair is truly covered in the warranty agreement). And wait - here's the funny part.....just wait for the warranty to be half-way expired only to discover that they're going out of business, and it'll cost just as much in legal feels to recoup their remaining warranty coverage.
There's nothing wrong with spending good money on a product that will need costly TLC somewhere down the line. Are there after-market warranty shops that might provide what the OP is describing, possibly. But I just don't get people who want to play with the big boys on the ultimate cheap. If it's too good to be true - it probably is.......
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I know I'm really more of a lurker than a poster, but holy crap, if reading this thread isn't a quick way to burn through brain cells, I don't know what is.....
If the OP even bothered to do a proper search, they would have learned that the MB extended warranty for years and mileage is retroactive to the car's in-service date. If the car was purchased new or CPO at a MB dealer, they are eligible to purchase the warranty from any dealer at any time so long as the car is currently under the original warranty. If they had done a search, they would have learned that there's a woman named Erin (I think) at a MB dealer in California who's selling the extended warranty over the phone for $1,700.
Now, if one chooses to blow good money on an after-market warranty (whose cost is bound to be close to if not at the $1,700 price-point), then they're the one who's going to learn the hard way. Good luck getting a MB dealer to cooperate with an aftermarket warranty company the way you want them to. They'll be paying possibly thousands of dollars to the dealer, and then waiting for the warranty company to send them a check (all the while giving them time to determine if the repair is truly covered in the warranty agreement). And wait - here's the funny part.....just wait for the warranty to be half-way expired only to discover that they're going out of business, and it'll cost just as much in legal feels to recoup their remaining warranty coverage.
There's nothing wrong with spending good money on a product that will need costly TLC somewhere down the line. Are there after-market warranty shops that might provide what the OP is describing, possibly. But I just don't get people who want to play with the big boys on the ultimate cheap. If it's too good to be true - it probably is.......
If the OP even bothered to do a proper search, they would have learned that the MB extended warranty for years and mileage is retroactive to the car's in-service date. If the car was purchased new or CPO at a MB dealer, they are eligible to purchase the warranty from any dealer at any time so long as the car is currently under the original warranty. If they had done a search, they would have learned that there's a woman named Erin (I think) at a MB dealer in California who's selling the extended warranty over the phone for $1,700.
Now, if one chooses to blow good money on an after-market warranty (whose cost is bound to be close to if not at the $1,700 price-point), then they're the one who's going to learn the hard way. Good luck getting a MB dealer to cooperate with an aftermarket warranty company the way you want them to. They'll be paying possibly thousands of dollars to the dealer, and then waiting for the warranty company to send them a check (all the while giving them time to determine if the repair is truly covered in the warranty agreement). And wait - here's the funny part.....just wait for the warranty to be half-way expired only to discover that they're going out of business, and it'll cost just as much in legal feels to recoup their remaining warranty coverage.
There's nothing wrong with spending good money on a product that will need costly TLC somewhere down the line. Are there after-market warranty shops that might provide what the OP is describing, possibly. But I just don't get people who want to play with the big boys on the ultimate cheap. If it's too good to be true - it probably is.......
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To be honest if there was one or two Luxury Cars I'd feel confident in owning after warranty, it'd be the W212 E and/or W204 C Class. Especially the pre-2012 versions which are sans D/I and stuff like that (though the D/I engines can be perfectly reliable for all we know).
There's a sense of analog mechanicalness to the W212/204 which get some people to criticize via having a lack of "toys" or marketable items compared to some competitors, however I feel this was purposeful by M-B as they needed the 204/212's to be a re-launch of M-B's W124/W126 era in terms of staunch quality, solidity and general simplicity especially when considering how they initially carried over tried & true drivetrains, etc. I think the abrupt angularity of the W212 pre-facelift was also a very purposeful visual cue to further drive this point home.... the car simply looks like it can plow through anything.
Having a BMW now I can't say I feel the same way just yet at least, as it seems they do more to "ooh/ahh" impress but I worry may not put as much attention into longevity as Mercedes has. This comes from hearing some peoples' horror stories and of course lagging reliability ratings while M-B's increases back to the top of the list.
However, if you're buying Used, especially non-CPO, then bets might be off, as you never know what the car has been through before, i.e how the previous owner/s treated it.
There's a sense of analog mechanicalness to the W212/204 which get some people to criticize via having a lack of "toys" or marketable items compared to some competitors, however I feel this was purposeful by M-B as they needed the 204/212's to be a re-launch of M-B's W124/W126 era in terms of staunch quality, solidity and general simplicity especially when considering how they initially carried over tried & true drivetrains, etc. I think the abrupt angularity of the W212 pre-facelift was also a very purposeful visual cue to further drive this point home.... the car simply looks like it can plow through anything.
Having a BMW now I can't say I feel the same way just yet at least, as it seems they do more to "ooh/ahh" impress but I worry may not put as much attention into longevity as Mercedes has. This comes from hearing some peoples' horror stories and of course lagging reliability ratings while M-B's increases back to the top of the list.
However, if you're buying Used, especially non-CPO, then bets might be off, as you never know what the car has been through before, i.e how the previous owner/s treated it.
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