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Old Mar 14, 2014 | 03:24 PM
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Where did you find it? I'd be shocked if some of those options were actually order-able for US-bound cars. I thought Splitview was not legal in the US?
If you look on edmunds.com and build the car you will see the SPC options. They are also listed in the Dealer Order Guide (someone linked in a post here).
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Old Jun 16, 2014 | 09:02 AM
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I read through last page with happy feeling that I made right decision to go with e250. I am agreeing with all positives I've read. Same MPG as Toyota Prius? I have confirmed it and I am really impressed. For all practical purpose the Viv. people talked about is so negligible I don't notice! Mileage meter on 2014 is different and read much more accurate, too.
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Old Jun 16, 2014 | 01:17 PM
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Over at the GLK Forum, the 2014 GLK250BT are having issues with persistent CEL triggering AdBlue no-start after 10 restarts warnings.
So far over 30 cases has been reported and M-B hasn't found a permanent fix other than applying software updates and changing NOX sensors.
There is even one case from Germany (2013 GLK250BT) with the same problem.

So far I haven't heard of any E250BT with this issue, unless it's too new and not many are on the road.
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Old Jun 20, 2014 | 12:01 AM
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I had a problem within 1500 miles where the engine would turn over but not start, and a new diesel control module needed to be ordered from Germany. I do not regret having this car, just not being able to drive it for a week.
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Old Jun 20, 2014 | 12:27 AM
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Diesel Control Module going bad is very unusual but things like can happen. After you get it fixed, you'll go back enjoying the car.
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Old Jun 20, 2014 | 11:45 AM
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Old Sep 15, 2014 | 03:02 PM
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I've had my E250 Rwd 9000 miles at this time. Good ride and comfort. Performance very good, but not a race car. Allowing for an error in the mpg gauge, getting 32 mpg city and 45 highway (50 mpg under ideal conditions). It used 3 gallons of DEF for this distance. So, the 6 gallon DEF tank is more than adequate between scheduled services. I put my own in at $9 for 2 and a half gallons compared to dealer at $15 for the half gallon used to make a no spill funnel from the bottle. Only problem was AM radio (old school) didn't work. The dealer never found out why, but it started working as soon as everything put back together. Stop-start system is a minor nuisance, but easily turned off as part of normal start up. Eco score and instant mpg displays useless. Am I satisfied. Yes. But, coming from a larger and more powerful car, I occasionally miss it until I pull up to the pump.
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Old Sep 15, 2014 | 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by bmcdanel
I've had my E250 Rwd 9000 miles at this time. Good ride and comfort. Performance very good, but not a race car. Allowing for an error in the mpg gauge, getting 32 mpg city and 45 highway (50 mpg under ideal conditions). It used 3 gallons of DEF for this distance. So, the 6 gallon DEF tank is more than adequate between scheduled services. I put my own in at $9 for 2 and a half gallons compared to dealer at $15 for the half gallon used to make a no spill funnel from the bottle. Only problem was AM radio (old school) didn't work. The dealer never found out why, but it started working as soon as everything put back together. Stop-start system is a minor nuisance, but easily turned off as part of normal start up. Eco score and instant mpg displays useless. Am I satisfied. Yes. But, coming from a larger and more powerful car, I occasionally miss it until I pull up to the pump.
Thank you for posting your feedback on your E250BT. That's impressive fuel efficiency your car is getting !
Do you find the passing power on two lane highways to be adequate ?
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Old Sep 15, 2014 | 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by DerekACS
Thank you for posting your feedback on your E250BT. That's impressive fuel efficiency your car is getting !
Do you find the passing power on two lane highways to be adequate ?
The E250's passing power isn't as good as my hopped up 300C was, but it's good enough. Additionally, it runs up steep hills and passes like they aren't there. You don't feel the gear shifts as the ECM and TCM work seamlessly to maintain fairly constant rpms. Engine noise is very low. If you know what you're listening for, you can tell it's a four banger and, when idling, a diesel. You really have to stomp on the accelerator to make it heard. It's apparent that Mercedes intended this car to be competent road cruiser.
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Old Sep 15, 2014 | 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by bmcdanel
The E250's passing power isn't as good as my hopped up 300C was, but it's good enough. Additionally, it runs up steep hills and passes like they aren't there. You don't feel the gear shifts as the ECM and TCM work seamlessly to maintain fairly constant rpms. Engine noise is very low. If you know what you're listening for, you can tell it's a four banger and, when idling, a diesel. You really have to stomp on the accelerator to make it heard. It's apparent that Mercedes intended this car to be competent road cruiser.
Having tested an E250BT4M just last week, I concur with your comments. I did not have the opportunity to pass vehicles on a two lane uphill highway, hence my previous question.

However, I did find that this car quickly accelerates well beyond highway speed limits ! Passing on a double lane highway was effortless. I was actually surprised that it seemed almost as fast as my V6 E350BT.

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Old Sep 16, 2014 | 06:09 PM
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Placed an order for a 2015 E250 a few weeks ago. I have been told to expect it at the end of October, or early November. Anybody else have an order out there?

It is a pretty optioned car but I skipped just a few things, like the pano roof. I did go for the Nappa leather though, which I imagine is a kind of rare option for the E250.
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Old Sep 16, 2014 | 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by BsbAMG
Placed an order for a 2015 E250 a few weeks ago. I have been told to expect it at the end of October, or early November. Anybody else have an order out there?

It is a pretty optioned car but I skipped just a few things, like the pano roof. I did go for the Nappa leather though, which I imagine is a kind of rare option for the E250.
BsbAMG: Congrats on your choice !

Surprised that you were able to order 'Nappa' leather; only the regular leather option is available for Canadian purchasers of E250BT. But at least we get the Artico leather stitched dash and window sills as part of the 'leather package'. IMO, the real leather seats are so much nicer (to touch and to smell) than the MBTex, especially in hot weather.

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Old Sep 16, 2014 | 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by DerekACS
BsbAMG: Congrats on your choice !

Surprised that you were able to order 'Nappa' leather; only the regular leather option is available for Canadian purchasers of E250BT. But at least we get the Artico leather stitched dash and window sills as part of the 'leather package'. IMO, the real leather seats are so much nicer (to touch and to smell) than the MBTex, especially in hot weather.
I couldn't order it originally but the dealership made it work. Seems that it had to do with ordering the black headliner. ???? Anybody else have the nappa leather option?

What is the Artico leather?
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Old Sep 16, 2014 | 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted by BsbAMG
I couldn't order it originally but the dealership made it work. Seems that it had to do with ordering the black headliner. ???? Anybody else have the nappa leather option?

What is the Artico leather?
Interesting comment. Nappa is apparently reserved for E400 or E550 for Canadian orders; not available on either E250BT or E300.

All E250BT for Canada come with black headliner as a default, but beige can also be chosen.

Artico is a man-made leather, used for covering the dash and window sills when the leather package is ordered. Artico looks like the real thing, but it is supposed to stand up better to UV light. My 2013 E350BT has the leather package with the stitched Artico dash/window sills.
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Old Sep 16, 2014 | 11:58 PM
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Still less than 2000km on my wife's E250, but very happy with ride quality. Acceleration is adequate for daily driving, and enough power is available to pass. In Canada, all E250s are 4matic. About a week ago, I decided to try spinning the wheels. Disabled the VSC, put the tranny in sport mode, and mashed the throttle - no luck.
Even tried to pre-load the engine to max torque RPMs before releasing the brake - still no luck. This is definitely no performance vehicle.

Will need to wait for my E63 before I can shred tires again.
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Old Sep 17, 2014 | 12:10 AM
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What is the Artico leather?
Otherwise known as MB Tex.
Didn't know that it could be ordered to cover the dash as well !!!
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Old Sep 17, 2014 | 05:13 AM
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Otherwise known as MB Tex.
Didn't know that it could be ordered to cover the dash as well !!!
I just love it , very cool to have a car with it
Order code for it is U09
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Old Sep 17, 2014 | 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by bmcdanel
The E250's passing power isn't as good as my hopped up 300C was, but it's good enough. Additionally, it runs up steep hills and passes like they aren't there. You don't feel the gear shifts as the ECM and TCM work seamlessly to maintain fairly constant rpms. Engine noise is very low. If you know what you're listening for, you can tell it's a four banger and, when idling, a diesel. You really have to stomp on the accelerator to make it heard. It's apparent that Mercedes intended this car to be competent road cruiser.
For passing, (especially on two-lane roads going uphill) I recommend hitting the Sport mode button. That makes a world of difference.

They really "hid" a lot of the torque over in Sport mode. I find Economy mode perfectly adequate for almost everything except passing quickly.
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Old Sep 17, 2014 | 02:27 PM
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The Sport Mode is a bit of gimmick to give the car a bit more of the feel of a sports car. All it does is hold the gears into higher rpms before shifting. Naturally, the engine sounds a bit throatier and more powerful; but with a diesel the torque curve is a lot flatter than that of a gasoline engine. So, nearly all the torque is available through the entire rpm range. Only electric motors do better at this. At speeds below interstate, the 2.1, 194 hp, diesel will give a 360 hp hemi a run for its money because their torque is nearly the same. However, the gas powered car can deliver more rpms and will pull away at high speeds. What running sport mode will do is make you feel better if you're a racer and burn more fuel.
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Old Sep 17, 2014 | 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by pamiboy
Otherwise known as MB Tex.
Not quite the same; Artico is not perforated like MB Tex. But yes, they are both man-made products that simulate real leather.
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Old Sep 17, 2014 | 09:28 PM
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Not quite the same; Artico is not perforated like MB Tex. But yes, they are both man-made products that simulate real leather.
So you are saying that Artico is a different product than MB Tex. My understanding was that both are the same product but it is called Artico in Europe and other countries (possibly due to "MB Taxi" connotation).
Or is it that if you perforate Artico it becomes MB tex...???
May be someone from Europe can chime in.
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Old Sep 17, 2014 | 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by pamiboy
So you are saying that Artico is a different product than MB Tex. My understanding was that both are the same product but it is called Artico in Europe and other countries (possibly due to "MB Taxi" connotation).
Or is it that if you perforate Artico it becomes MB tex...???
May be someone from Europe can chime in.
'Artico' and MB Tex are virtually the same product. The former term is used to describe the non-leather seats in Canadian production (and European) cars and the latter is used for USA production.

However, unlike the Artico/MB Tex for seats, the product that is used for dash/window sill covering is NOT perforated.
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Old Sep 23, 2014 | 09:23 AM
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I know there will be people that will doubt the claims of this new engine but I thought it would be helpful to post my experiences. I purchased a 2014 e250 bluetec and did the European delivery program. I drove the car approximately 1500 miles through varied terrain in German, Austria, Switzerland, Lichtenstein, Italy and Slovakia.

I had the opportunity to regularly cruise at 140 MPH (After break in). My mileage at 80 -100 was consistently 43-45 MPG. When cruising back roads at 50-60 MPG with a fully loaded car I consistently got 55-65 MPG. This is real world, a new engine and not hypermiling it. I took a picture as proof of driving time, and average speed.

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Old Sep 23, 2014 | 09:46 AM
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Old Sep 23, 2014 | 12:25 PM
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Natet: impressive figures ! Based on computer readout ? Is your car RWD ?
North American production cars are limited to 210 kph or 130 mph. How did you manage 140 mph on the autobahn ?

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