///AMG sport package does get AMG badge FROM the factory, says Daimler AG.
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Your right. It was actually the point I was trying to make to the OP step by step. You did so much more succinctly.
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Bottom line, If the car is not an AMG it should never have the AMG badge on it, period. Regardless of an AMG package etc. Badging non-AMG's with the badge water downs the brand and aids in AMG loosing its true identity. Its false over saturation. I honestly can't fathom why someone would want to put an AMG badge on a regular mercedes in the first place
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There are many narrow minded people in this world. How one country or some countries do certain thing doesn't mean the rest of the world does the same way.
I believe the guy is simply pointing out that some countries, the local Mercedes Benz (or BMW, Audi) corporation sell cars with the optional AMG or M appareance package with the badge on the car. This is actually a known fact in Asia.
What if a 65 year old lady, who knows nothing about car, bought a car like that. She probably doesn't even know what AMG is. Does it make her a poser? Do we make fun of her for something she did not do or did not know anything about?
I believe the guy is simply pointing out that some countries, the local Mercedes Benz (or BMW, Audi) corporation sell cars with the optional AMG or M appareance package with the badge on the car. This is actually a known fact in Asia.
What if a 65 year old lady, who knows nothing about car, bought a car like that. She probably doesn't even know what AMG is. Does it make her a poser? Do we make fun of her for something she did not do or did not know anything about?
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Bottom line, If the car is not an AMG it should never have the AMG badge on it, period. Regardless of an AMG package etc. Badging non-AMG's with the badge water downs the brand and aids in AMG loosing its true identity. Its false over saturation. I honestly can't fathom why someone would want to put an AMG badge on a regular mercedes in the first place
People who don't get this are clueless and the people who actually install AMG badges on non-AMG cars are total wanna-be posers.
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There are many narrow minded people in this world. How one country or some countries do certain thing doesn't mean the rest of the world does the same way.
I believe the guy is simply pointing out that some countries, the local Mercedes Benz (or BMW, Audi) corporation sell cars with the optional AMG or M appareance package with the badge on the car. This is actually a known fact in Asia.
What if a 65 year old lady, who knows nothing about car, bought a car like that. She probably doesn't even know what AMG is. Does it make her a poser? Do we make fun of her for something she did not do or did not know anything about?
I believe the guy is simply pointing out that some countries, the local Mercedes Benz (or BMW, Audi) corporation sell cars with the optional AMG or M appareance package with the badge on the car. This is actually a known fact in Asia.
What if a 65 year old lady, who knows nothing about car, bought a car like that. She probably doesn't even know what AMG is. Does it make her a poser? Do we make fun of her for something she did not do or did not know anything about?
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funny that the line is drawn at the trunk badge. any race-inspired-cosmetic-enhancement (rice) is technically posing, but for the most part it is perfectly acceptable for someone to enhance the appearance of their car with a lip or a spoiler.
also posing: buying an AMG car, enhancing performance, and then never taking it to the track. that shyt is straight poseur! and many dudes do that. we know this. it's lame because there's no autobahn here. when would that guy ever legally (safely) unleash that power? it doesn't matter as long as other people *think* his car is awesome.
this is the crap part of the argument: buying an AMG for a lot of dudes is about showing it off, and if the asian market waters down the badge, what is left to show off?
also posing: buying an AMG car, enhancing performance, and then never taking it to the track. that shyt is straight poseur! and many dudes do that. we know this. it's lame because there's no autobahn here. when would that guy ever legally (safely) unleash that power? it doesn't matter as long as other people *think* his car is awesome.
this is the crap part of the argument: buying an AMG for a lot of dudes is about showing it off, and if the asian market waters down the badge, what is left to show off?
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WOW! What a thread......... Seriously if someone wants to put AMG on the back of their car, who are we to judge? the real AMG enthusiast will know if its a AMG or not, a non AMG enthusiast will not know/care. BTW OP, you got some sexy cars!
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Politicians don't really control the opening of that disastrous Pandora's Box...they just do as they are told.
Can there be enough crooked public sector officials and sweatshop pseudo-capitalists to drive a highline market that large? Is it really sustainable? And just because something becomes powerful and supposedly trendsetting via environmental, social, IP, and other trade crimes doesn't give those trends embraceable aesthetics.
Can there be enough crooked public sector officials and sweatshop pseudo-capitalists to drive a highline market that large? Is it really sustainable? And just because something becomes powerful and supposedly trendsetting via environmental, social, IP, and other trade crimes doesn't give those trends embraceable aesthetics.
OMFG.
*** OP's car is VERY tastefully done. it's much better than most of the low rent examples you see around this whole forum. badges or not, that car is a beauty!
*** the chinese market is going to overtake the rest of the globe very soon. they dictate the trends. end of story. don't like it? vote for better politicians.
EDIT: what's worse - OP's e250 with AMG badge or the guy who takes an AMG car from the factory and ruins it with extra large wheels, a "stance" suspension setup, blacked out everything, an obnoxious exhaust system, etc.? i know who the bigger toolbag is, for sure.
*** OP's car is VERY tastefully done. it's much better than most of the low rent examples you see around this whole forum. badges or not, that car is a beauty!
*** the chinese market is going to overtake the rest of the globe very soon. they dictate the trends. end of story. don't like it? vote for better politicians.
EDIT: what's worse - OP's e250 with AMG badge or the guy who takes an AMG car from the factory and ruins it with extra large wheels, a "stance" suspension setup, blacked out everything, an obnoxious exhaust system, etc.? i know who the bigger toolbag is, for sure.
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S213 E450 4Matic, W111 220SE - prior cars: 3x W212, W210 E55 AMG, W202 C43 AMG, W126 300SE
If it was another market with the sketchy badging, would some people here be so defensive? I am waiting for the OP to create another "racist" cry, he likes to distract.
Most AMG cars aren't really fit for track duty anyway, too heavy. More for burnouts and drags - handling some of these beasts on a legitimate curvy track would be like herding a couple dozen cats, a bit of a handful.
Most AMG cars aren't really fit for track duty anyway, too heavy. More for burnouts and drags - handling some of these beasts on a legitimate curvy track would be like herding a couple dozen cats, a bit of a handful.
funny that the line is drawn at the trunk badge. any race-inspired-cosmetic-enhancement (rice) is technically posing, but for the most part it is perfectly acceptable for someone to enhance the appearance of their car with a lip or a spoiler.
also posing: buying an AMG car, enhancing performance, and then never taking it to the track. that shyt is straight poseur! and many dudes do that. we know this. it's lame because there's no autobahn here. when would that guy ever legally (safely) unleash that power? it doesn't matter as long as other people *think* his car is awesome.
this is the crap part of the argument: buying an AMG for a lot of dudes is about showing it off, and if the asian market waters down the badge, what is left to show off?
also posing: buying an AMG car, enhancing performance, and then never taking it to the track. that shyt is straight poseur! and many dudes do that. we know this. it's lame because there's no autobahn here. when would that guy ever legally (safely) unleash that power? it doesn't matter as long as other people *think* his car is awesome.
this is the crap part of the argument: buying an AMG for a lot of dudes is about showing it off, and if the asian market waters down the badge, what is left to show off?
Last edited by fintail; Jan 15, 2014 at 11:01 PM.
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Exactly, that is completely believable. The local agency can badge the cars or have them badged as they please.
I have a friend in HK who's senior citizen mother recently bought an E300 from the ZungFu monopoly. I should have him snoop around the place the next time he is there. Maybe get a badge for her "Elegance" line car
I have a friend in HK who's senior citizen mother recently bought an E300 from the ZungFu monopoly. I should have him snoop around the place the next time he is there. Maybe get a badge for her "Elegance" line car
There are many narrow minded people in this world. How one country or some countries do certain thing doesn't mean the rest of the world does the same way.
I believe the guy is simply pointing out that some countries, the local Mercedes Benz (or BMW, Audi) corporation sell cars with the optional AMG or M appareance package with the badge on the car. This is actually a known fact in Asia.
What if a 65 year old lady, who knows nothing about car, bought a car like that. She probably doesn't even know what AMG is. Does it make her a poser? Do we make fun of her for something she did not do or did not know anything about?
I believe the guy is simply pointing out that some countries, the local Mercedes Benz (or BMW, Audi) corporation sell cars with the optional AMG or M appareance package with the badge on the car. This is actually a known fact in Asia.
What if a 65 year old lady, who knows nothing about car, bought a car like that. She probably doesn't even know what AMG is. Does it make her a poser? Do we make fun of her for something she did not do or did not know anything about?
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+1, I have never seen ANY non-AMG MB's in ANY country that I have been to. All of the markets only have AMG badges on actual AMG models, not AMG "styled" or appearance kits. You only get the wheels and body styling with the AMG appearance package, no badging. I don't understand why this keeps coming up, we confirmed this from MB USA, from MB in Germany, on another thread that went into many pages. The thread got heated and was almost locked.
No engine, no badge. Period.
It's not about time on the hands for the responses, but more on the OP. Why is this such a deal to post an email such as this? We don't know if the email is legit, or being incorrectly interpreted. Sure, people do what the want with their cars, but don't try to shove this down the throats on the forum which is widely known to be false about the AMG badges.
OMG.
No engine, no badge. Period.
It's not about time on the hands for the responses, but more on the OP. Why is this such a deal to post an email such as this? We don't know if the email is legit, or being incorrectly interpreted. Sure, people do what the want with their cars, but don't try to shove this down the throats on the forum which is widely known to be false about the AMG badges.
OMG.
Many comments on this thread from patrons that have not seen the whole story. Mr. Leapingfrog claims MB in Germany makes non-AMG engine equipped cars and sends them out with the AMG badge glued on the trunk lid. Me and some other MB ENTHUSIASTS disagree with this.
"No engine, no badge. Period."
I go with the above sentence.
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pffft! not a track car? my ***.
you guys need better excuses. you can get a mustang to do burnouts, save some cash in the process.
http://www.amgacademy.com/program/track
you guys need better excuses. you can get a mustang to do burnouts, save some cash in the process.
http://www.amgacademy.com/program/track
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pffft! not a track car? my ***.
you guys need better excuses. you can get a mustang to do burnouts, save some cash in the process.
http://www.amgacademy.com/program/track
you guys need better excuses. you can get a mustang to do burnouts, save some cash in the process.
http://www.amgacademy.com/program/track
I didn't buy my SL to do burnouts. I bought it for the styling, the fit and finish, all the fancy comfort gizmos, the drop top, and the fact that it puts a smile on my face every time I mash on the throttle.
By the way, the AMG academy teaches you what your car is and isn't and how to get the most out of it.
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Apparently,. Mercedes Benz's marketing strategy is different for different parts of the world. Let's blame MB for this. Case closed.
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no cultural sensitivities here. MB could care less if narrow-minded americans think the new designs are tacky or not aesthetic. bottom-dollar logic is king. they are secretly laughing at you, when you think that their cars are all hand built by blond-haired blue-eyed aryans in lederhosen in some old-timey workshop. your imaginations and how they influence the opening of your wallets are comical to me, as well.
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I have been. Ran all of the AMGs at road America. The SLS is a nice handling track car and the CLK63 BS is a bona fide track beast. The C63 is a straight line beast. The SL is a pig just like I mentioned before. I found the W212s to be not much better. Will they hold their own against a Mustang or a Camero? probably so. Even my old SL55 sticker price was over 100k so I was thinking Porsche, BMW Ms, etc in comparison.
I didn't buy my SL to do burnouts. I bought it for the styling, the fit and finish, all the fancy comfort gizmos, the drop top, and the fact that it puts a smile on my face every time I mash on the throttle.
By the way, the AMG academy teaches you what your car is and isn't and how to get the most out of it.
I didn't buy my SL to do burnouts. I bought it for the styling, the fit and finish, all the fancy comfort gizmos, the drop top, and the fact that it puts a smile on my face every time I mash on the throttle.
By the way, the AMG academy teaches you what your car is and isn't and how to get the most out of it.
thanks for the input, makes sense to me
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Agree that MB could care less about what you think. I'm surprised how some people here are working so hard - for free - on preserving MB's name brand. They could care less if someone slaps an AMG logo on their a$$ - AMG will still continue to retain its value for what it is.
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I'd be interested to know how many of you that "don't care" or don't think the OP is a poser or did anything wrong by adding his own AMG badge to his non-AMG car, also have installed your own AMG badge? Anyone have the ***** to admit it?
If you really didn't add your own badge, why not? Really, why not?
If you really didn't add your own badge, why not? Really, why not?
