ECO is absolutely 100% USELESS on the 2014 E350
Hoping Mercedes sees the flaws in their waterfall requirements and can make a programming adjustment across the board that can be resolved on a service visit so that ECO can work on a consistent basis.
VERY DISAPPOINTING!








. My commute is also more or less 15 minutes but it turns green almost all the time. It used to take a bit longer in the winter but now sometimes it works within 2 minutes of starting. Anyway if it works, then I like it, if not I ignore it Trending Topics
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Mine works I guess as supposed to considering ECO turns on green quite often and when I open the sunroof along with A/C almost 3/4 way power ,it starts the engine on it's own without my intervention .
I mostly turn it off when coming close to parking lots, home because it stops the engine during park maneuvers that I dislike lol
1) brake like you normally do and will kill the engine
2) bring the car to a stop but don't push down further on the brake will keep the engine on for left turns/lights where you know will turn green within 10 seconds
3) kill the engine and a further push will activate HOLD
The system works great if you know how to use it properly and definitely can save some fuel. It's MUCH better than the BMW system which kills the engine regardless of the brake pedal pressure and shakes the entire car when it restarts. lol
1) brake like you normally do and will kill the engine
2) bring the car to a stop but don't push down further on the brake will keep the engine on for left turns/lights where you know will turn green within 10 seconds
3) kill the engine and a further push will activate HOLD
The system works great if you know how to use it properly and definitely can save some fuel. It's MUCH better than the BMW system which kills the engine regardless of the brake pedal pressure and shakes the entire car when it restarts. lol
Do note that weather has a big effect on it. When its really cold or really hot it rarely kicks in. During mild weather it kicks in for me almost al the time.
I do notice when it's really hot and the AC is working hard I can be at a stop - so no ECO mode - and the MPG display starts ticking down minute by minute as it sit there.




At least we have the option of turning it off ...
Go drive an Infiniti Q50 and tell me that statement with a straight face. I just put 600+ miles on one last week and couldn't wait to return it as there were so many design/quality flaws.
Just some of the problems I encountered in one week with the Q50:
1) wipers + washers which couldn't clean the windscreen
2) Putting a touchscreen down by the driver's knee
3) Putting tiny little 'buttons' on said touchscreen
4) Putting a second screen up closer to eye level which doesn't do much of anything
5) Putting in computers which flat-out don't work and crashed constantly during the week I had it.
6) Reverse camera guide-lines won't show up until the car has been powered up for 2+ minutes. I guess you're supposed to turn on the car and listen to the radio for 2 minutes before reversing each time BUT....
7) The radio & AC controls also don't work until the computer has booted up....BUT
8) Air con controls didn't work at the dealership because the computer crashed and had to be reset. Similarly, I was told that it was "normal" for the AC controls to be lagged up to 30 seconds.
I'm with Phil -- the BMW start/stop, in particular its roughness and eagerness to engage, bothered me when I had one for a week. The first time it engaged I thought someone had rear-ended me.
If you want a car which shuts the engine off all the time, there's the E400, which benefits from a larger storage battery + electric AC. The latter should make a big difference. On the E350s I've played with, I noticed the ECO icon was green far more often when it was overcast or at night. I'm in Florida and it is summer, YMMV.
I do wish you could permanently enable/disable the feature though. From my limited (week-long) experience, I'd probably leave it enabled. I like the silence and lack of vibration at some of Florida's 5-minute-long red lights. Ironically, the Lexus RX hybrid I had for a few days couldn't make it though an entire red light without firing the engine back up and sometimes it didn't even bother to shut the engine down -- and that's a true hybrid complete with a golf cart (EV) mode.




Would not purchase a car with ECO unless I could permanently disable it.
BTW, are ECO and start/stop the same thing?
Would not purchase a car with ECO unless I could permanently disable it.
BTW, are ECO and start/stop the same thing?
If Button off Start Stop not active ECO never goes green.


