What happened to E550 sedan???!!
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'12 CLS 550 4matic
Was away a few days, so i'll try to address some things here.
Canada does have it right as mentioned above!
I've been buying Benzes from MB Manhattan since '07 and have also brought them a ton of business. In return they give me the best pricing, deliver new cars to my home in the burbs (paperwork done in my house), swap service loaners, etc.
AMG just not practical for me for work. The potholes situation alone will be a nightmare of tire and wheel replacement. Suspension issues, etc. etc.
SUV is not an option, already own a GL450 for the fam dam, don't want another SUV.
I hear you on the 4 sec range for the CLS and aware of the ballooning of the 0-60 time and I believe the downplay the power. Regardless, I will test one out and hope I am satisfied.
Canada does have it right as mentioned above!
I've been buying Benzes from MB Manhattan since '07 and have also brought them a ton of business. In return they give me the best pricing, deliver new cars to my home in the burbs (paperwork done in my house), swap service loaners, etc.
AMG just not practical for me for work. The potholes situation alone will be a nightmare of tire and wheel replacement. Suspension issues, etc. etc.
SUV is not an option, already own a GL450 for the fam dam, don't want another SUV.
I hear you on the 4 sec range for the CLS and aware of the ballooning of the 0-60 time and I believe the downplay the power. Regardless, I will test one out and hope I am satisfied.
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Keep in mind you are comparing power output of the E400 with your NA V8 not a TT V8. The difference will be much smaller.
All I can say is that the 3.0L TT engine performs very well. In my case, I do not miss my 13 CLS550 and that was TT V8.
All I can say is that the 3.0L TT engine performs very well. In my case, I do not miss my 13 CLS550 and that was TT V8.
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Do not know how hot it gets during summer in your area, but performance IMHO significantly decreases with A/C on for TTV6 while not at all for TTV8. When I test drove (for over an hour) SL400 (lighter than CSL400/E400) its performance significantly increased when I turned the A/C off and lowered the roof. I do agree that TTV6's performance is on par with NA V8 as long as A/C is not on. Once A/C is on it negatively effects performance just as it does in non-TT NA V6s.
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Can't be too significant since the air conditioner uses about 7hp and it's the same loss on the V8. As far as weight is concerned, the SL400 is slightly heavier than the the RWD CLS400. However the CLS400 4M is 40 KG heavier than the SL.
In the end we are all arguing about nothing. The V8 is going the way of the dodo bird. Mercedes gets 355hp out of the 4cyl AMG CLA. Ford's new 6cyl GT will produce 650hp. The OP is looking for a comfortable commuter car with enough power to pass effortlessly. If a car can do 0 to 60 in 5.5sec it accomplishes that criteria. If you want more, do like I do. Buy a Porsche 911!!!
In the end we are all arguing about nothing. The V8 is going the way of the dodo bird. Mercedes gets 355hp out of the 4cyl AMG CLA. Ford's new 6cyl GT will produce 650hp. The OP is looking for a comfortable commuter car with enough power to pass effortlessly. If a car can do 0 to 60 in 5.5sec it accomplishes that criteria. If you want more, do like I do. Buy a Porsche 911!!!
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US specs SL400 per MbUsa is about 1/2 sec quicker 0-60 than both CLS400 and E400 sedan. Since all use identical engines, this significant (IMO) difference is the weight. If I felt difference in performance with and without A/C in a lighter SL400, I'm sure I would in heavier CLS400/E400 (true I never drove the later two, but I would not consider them after TT V8).
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Can't be too significant since the air conditioner uses about 7hp and it's the same loss on the V8. As far as weight is concerned, the SL400 is slightly heavier than the the RWD CLS400. However the CLS400 4M is 40 KG heavier than the SL.
In the end we are all arguing about nothing. The V8 is going the way of the dodo bird. Mercedes gets 355hp out of the 4cyl AMG CLA. Ford's new 6cyl GT will produce 650hp. The OP is looking for a comfortable commuter car with enough power to pass effortlessly. If a car can do 0 to 60 in 5.5sec it accomplishes that criteria. If you want more, do like I do. Buy a Porsche 911!!!
In the end we are all arguing about nothing. The V8 is going the way of the dodo bird. Mercedes gets 355hp out of the 4cyl AMG CLA. Ford's new 6cyl GT will produce 650hp. The OP is looking for a comfortable commuter car with enough power to pass effortlessly. If a car can do 0 to 60 in 5.5sec it accomplishes that criteria. If you want more, do like I do. Buy a Porsche 911!!!
Anyone who says an E400 is as fast as an E550 4matic is mistaken.
The E550 does 0-60 in 4.5 sec http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...ic-test-review
The E400 does 0-60 in 5.4 sec http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...rbo-v-6-page-2
The E550 is nearly as fast as your 911S. http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...et-test-review
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I never said the E400 was as fast as the 4.0LTT. I said there would not be as much difference compared to the NA V8 the OP is driving presently.
I traded a 13 CLS550 on my CLS400 and I am very familiar with the performance of the V8TT.
I traded a 13 CLS550 on my CLS400 and I am very familiar with the performance of the V8TT.
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'12 CLS 550 4matic
I've decided to hold off for now. I was going to take advantage of an early lease end program. MB picks up the remaining 6 months of lease payments, as long as you get into another MB. Since no 550 in an E, I'm going to keep and enjoy my CLS beast until lease end in Sept. Then hopefully the '16 E400 is more powerful that current. If not, I'll see if I am going to go 550ix or A6, etc. I need / want a 5 seat AWD mid size sedan, so those all fit the criteria. I'm sure I will stick w/ Benz though.
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Mine: 2014 E550 4matic; Hers: 2016 CLS 400 4matic
My '12 CLS 550, is a TTV8!
I've decided to hold off for now. I was going to take advantage of an early lease end program. MB picks up the remaining 6 months of lease payments, as long as you get into another MB. Since no 550 in an E, I'm going to keep and enjoy my CLS beast until lease end in Sept. Then hopefully the '16 E400 is more powerful that current. If not, I'll see if I am going to go 550ix or A6, etc. I need / want a 5 seat AWD mid size sedan, so those all fit the criteria. I'm sure I will stick w/ Benz though.
I've decided to hold off for now. I was going to take advantage of an early lease end program. MB picks up the remaining 6 months of lease payments, as long as you get into another MB. Since no 550 in an E, I'm going to keep and enjoy my CLS beast until lease end in Sept. Then hopefully the '16 E400 is more powerful that current. If not, I'll see if I am going to go 550ix or A6, etc. I need / want a 5 seat AWD mid size sedan, so those all fit the criteria. I'm sure I will stick w/ Benz though.
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'12 CLS 550 4matic
Just as an update, the lack of the 550 engine in an E sedan, made me jump ship! I ordered a '16 550 X-drive M sport. Shame on MB for letting us 550 enthusiasts down!
