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Old Jul 8, 2015 | 10:01 PM
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Do wheel spacers affect camber

Just put 15mm front and 20mm rear spacers on my stock 18" AMGs. It definitely fills the wheel well much better, but the rears seem to be a little negative on the camber to my eye. Not sure if this is an optical illusion caused by the lines of the rear fender, or an actual camber change. I haven't lowered the car yet, but will be installing H&Rs next week. I know spring will cause negative camber, but do spacers too??
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Old Jul 9, 2015 | 02:45 AM
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Nope, it shouldn't. You probably already have a negative camber at the rear, just became more obvious now its sticking out more. Idk
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Old Jul 11, 2015 | 11:30 AM
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It shouldn't but theoretically using spacers can change the camber because it changes the load applied to the rear suspension due to the increased torque applied around the suspension pivot point. This can slightly alter the static ride height and thus increase negative camber. You are moving the rim+tire weight outwards and making the "lever" longer, which would make it flex. So, of course, with very thin spacers you wouldn't notice it, with thicker ones you might. Best way to tell is to get it checked at any tire shop that does wheel alignments...
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Old Jul 11, 2015 | 12:39 PM
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Anyone have any experience with any of the camber kits for the E?
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Old Jul 11, 2015 | 02:16 PM
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It shouldn't but theoretically using spacers can change the camber because it changes the load applied to the rear suspension due to the increased torque applied around the suspension pivot point. This can slightly alter the static ride height and thus increase negative camber. You are moving the rim+tire weight outwards and making the "lever" longer, which would make it flex. So, of course, with very thin spacers you wouldn't notice it, with thicker ones you might. Best way to tell is to get it checked at any tire shop that does wheel alignments...
Yup!
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Old Jul 11, 2015 | 03:03 PM
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I agree that it is more noticeable. However I say it's worth it all day long!!! I received my spacers in the mail this week and have the back ones installed (H&R DRA's). NIGHT AND DAY difference with the stock split 6 AMG's! I have nearly new Pirelli Pzero's on the car and plan to replace them with a set of 20's for the summer and the pirelli's with some snow tires on the amg's for winter. The car looks night and day better with the rear 20mm's in place. I am just waiting for the correct extended lugs to arrive so I can make the fronts match!!
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Old Jul 11, 2015 | 04:00 PM
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Spacers increase the lever arm length and put the forces further out so YES by definition they affect the angle/camber but NOT noticeably or in any detriment

Spacer away!! I'd much much rather have a well spaced set of rims than 105% perfect camber
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Old Jul 11, 2015 | 07:29 PM
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Anyone have any experience with any of the camber kits for the E?
http://www.k-mac.com.au/ kits is the only solution to fix negative chamber. Front negative chamber can be fixed with longer bolts ( i know it can be done on CLS so E probably will be the same ) so you only need rear kit - http://www.k-mac.com/pages/newprods/...ercedes_04.htm
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Front turn feel after 15mm spacers

Hey, I just placed H&R 15mm spacers all around. No drop just yet. When I’m making a turn (U-turn) it almost seems as if the front tires aren’t in proper contact with the surface. It’s tough to describe.... Best way I can explain it is that it feels like the tires are oval and don’t roll smoothly when making sharp turns. Crazy description, but that’s the best description I’ve got. If it’s raining out it’s even more pronounced where the front tires will roll/grip then slide a small amount. I’m guessing the 15mm threw off the camber and it needs an alignment. Anyone else experience the phenomenon with just spacers?
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Old Aug 9, 2019 | 08:54 AM
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Is your car 4Matic? Sounds like normal wheel hop to me from the 4Matic drive under tight turns.
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Old Aug 9, 2019 | 09:14 AM
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It’s not a 4Matic. I have a 18’ C63S Coupe. This is the only thread I could find on MBWorld regarding spacers. I’ve experienced hop in AWD/4X4 vehicles. It’s somewhat similar, but it only started after the spacer placement. I was wondering if a simple alignment would get rid of this. I’ll end up installing H&R Coil Overs and will need an alignment regardless. First time using spacers and hadn’t heard of this issue. Thanks
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Old Aug 9, 2019 | 09:46 AM
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Those 15mm spacers should not be altering anything in terms of drivability. They move the wheel/tire out slightly for a wider stance, but that should not be affecting much. 15mm is minimal.
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Originally Posted by Jonathan Dunn
Hey, I just placed H&R 15mm spacers all around. No drop just yet. When I’m making a turn (U-turn) it almost seems as if the front tires aren’t in proper contact with the surface. It’s tough to describe.... Best way I can explain it is that it feels like the tires are oval and don’t roll smoothly when making sharp turns. Crazy description, but that’s the best description I’ve got. If it’s raining out it’s even more pronounced where the front tires will roll/grip then slide a small amount. I’m guessing the 15mm threw off the camber and it needs an alignment. Anyone else experience the phenomenon with just spacers?
With the spacers did you just move the tires out by 15 mm? If you did you are messing with the steering geometry.

If you put on wider tires and kept the center of the tire at original location then spacers should not cause a problem.

Front wheels turn different amount when you make a turn. The inside wheel in the turn has to make more angle change for the turn than the outside one and the sharper the turn the more difference between the front wheels.

If you install 15 mm spacers you move the center of the tire out meaning that the turning radius of the inside wheel gets smaller and for the outside wheel it gets bigger. Does not sound much but in a sharp full U-turn probably can be noticed.

If the problem is what I explained don't spend money for alignment as it would not help any. Get wheels and tires that keep center of the tire at the same as original wheels do.
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