Your feelings about American Cars?
11-03-2015, 07:45 AM
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11-03-2015, 09:15 AM
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You guys are comparing euro cars that cost 3 times as much as American car. Lets compare apples to apples here, for example VW passet vs. the Ford Taurus or the Mercedes C class vs the Cadillac CTS.
11-03-2015, 10:10 AM
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These guys seem to care, and look they even have on cute matching outfits
Definitely a sign of creating a masterpiece lol
11-03-2015, 11:40 AM
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^wonder if that platform they're working on is mobile.......I'm guessing it is
11-03-2015, 01:12 PM
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11-03-2015, 03:26 PM
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Consumer Reports new car reliability reports are out. Surveys of over 740,000 vehicles.
This is based on last one to three years of vehicles depending on when last model change occured.
MB as a brand came in 21 (up from 24) last year.
Buick came in 7 and their worst model ties with "E" Class and is slightly below MB's best (M class).
Some rankings:Cadillac-25; Lexus-1; Toyota-2; Audi-3 (up from 5); Hyundai-9; Kia-6; Chevy-20, Porsche-14..
Chevy's worst model is the Corvette.; MB's worst is GL Class; CLA, S and C also did poorly.
Incidentally, the Hyundai Genesis and Hyundai Genesis Coupe are two very different vehicles. Not sure why Hyundai uses similar names for them.
Fiat-Chrysler pretty much owns the bottom.
MB had two vehicles to make the 20 Least Reliable list: GL Class and C Class.
Tesla is not ranked because it did not meet the minimum reporting standards for brands of so many responses for at least two models. I think Tesla only has one model at present.
However, in the individual vehicle rankings Tesla came in last for Hybrid/Electric vehicles.
This is based on last one to three years of vehicles depending on when last model change occured.
MB as a brand came in 21 (up from 24) last year.
Buick came in 7 and their worst model ties with "E" Class and is slightly below MB's best (M class).
Some rankings:Cadillac-25; Lexus-1; Toyota-2; Audi-3 (up from 5); Hyundai-9; Kia-6; Chevy-20, Porsche-14..
Chevy's worst model is the Corvette.; MB's worst is GL Class; CLA, S and C also did poorly.
Incidentally, the Hyundai Genesis and Hyundai Genesis Coupe are two very different vehicles. Not sure why Hyundai uses similar names for them.
Fiat-Chrysler pretty much owns the bottom.
MB had two vehicles to make the 20 Least Reliable list: GL Class and C Class.
Tesla is not ranked because it did not meet the minimum reporting standards for brands of so many responses for at least two models. I think Tesla only has one model at present.
However, in the individual vehicle rankings Tesla came in last for Hybrid/Electric vehicles.
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11-03-2015, 03:53 PM
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Not just American
The battery warranty for my MB ran out by one week. Neither dealer nor MBUSA would give any credit toward a new $300 MB dealer installed battery. So not just American cars.
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11-04-2015, 08:50 AM
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Posers in a auto factory? Really? Gentleman, the automotive business this is a global one. Everybody copies what other manufacturers excels at. Germans have being copying the Japanese Just-in-Time (JIT) parts deliveries methods for years. As far as the Italians, I am not sure anybody would want to copy them. They make a few nice exotic cars but those factories can never produce in high volume efficiently.
11-04-2015, 08:58 AM
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Posers in a auto factory? Really? Gentleman, the automotive business this is a global one. Everybody copies what other manufacturers excels at. Germans have being copying the Japanese Just-in-Time (JIT) parts deliveries methods for years. As far as the Italians, I am not sure anybody would want to copy them. They make a few nice exotic cars but those factories can never produce in high volume efficiently.
11-04-2015, 09:20 AM
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11-04-2015, 11:37 AM
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Not my intention
Probably could have told him just to jump start it, but then I would be searching for a battery.
Wasn't my intention to overpay for a battery and actually thought at 48 months and one week, MBUSA would have given some type of credit. If it had died two weeks before, MBUSA would have replaced it at no cost.
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11-04-2015, 11:54 AM
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Wait, the $300 also got you off he side of the road? I mean, I'd be thinking ouch for the $300, but not complaining overall, as you did get rescued from being stranded.
In NYC, only the state licensed tow truck is even allowed on the parkway. You'd have paid $300 just to get it on the truck, to the next exit, and dropped in the nearest parking lot. And STILL have to deal with getting it running, home and ultimately repaired.
At which point $300 just to buy the battery... that for any other car would be $75...is obscene.
In NYC, only the state licensed tow truck is even allowed on the parkway. You'd have paid $300 just to get it on the truck, to the next exit, and dropped in the nearest parking lot. And STILL have to deal with getting it running, home and ultimately repaired.
At which point $300 just to buy the battery... that for any other car would be $75...is obscene.
11-04-2015, 12:00 PM
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Not on side of road
Wait, the $300 also got you off he side of the road? I mean, I'd be thinking ouch for the $300, but not complaining overall, as you did get rescued from being stranded.
In NYC, only the state licensed tow truck is even allowed on the parkway. You'd have paid $300 just to get it on the truck, to the next exit, and dropped in the nearest parking lot. And STILL have to deal with getting it running, home and ultimately repaired.
At which point $300 just to buy the battery... that for any other car would be $75...is obscene.
In NYC, only the state licensed tow truck is even allowed on the parkway. You'd have paid $300 just to get it on the truck, to the next exit, and dropped in the nearest parking lot. And STILL have to deal with getting it running, home and ultimately repaired.
At which point $300 just to buy the battery... that for any other car would be $75...is obscene.
Not sure, but a comparable replacement battery would probably have been more than $75, but no where near $300.
11-04-2015, 12:20 PM
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11-04-2015, 01:10 PM
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$213 online for a AGM battery, I think $300 is a bargain considering. BMW dealers use to charge $500 for a battery and programming.
https://www.batteriesplus.com/Batter...0CCA/SLI94RAGM
https://www.batteriesplus.com/Batter...0CCA/SLI94RAGM
11-04-2015, 10:00 PM
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3 bills for an MBUSA battery on the E-class is reasonable...it is a huge freaking battery. There is no way a cheapo Sears $75 special has nearly as many cold cranking amps (CCA).
Not as good power-wise as the yellow/red top Optimas I have in the older cars, but pretty close.
Not as good power-wise as the yellow/red top Optimas I have in the older cars, but pretty close.
11-04-2015, 10:21 PM
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3 bills for an MBUSA battery on the E-class is reasonable...it is a huge freaking battery. There is no way a cheapo Sears $75 special has nearly as many cold cranking amps (CCA).
Not as good power-wise as the yellow/red top Optimas I have in the older cars, but pretty close.
Not as good power-wise as the yellow/red top Optimas I have in the older cars, but pretty close.
