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Old 06-02-2016, 08:35 AM
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dvdit - I'm in NOVA and went through this process a couple months ago. I was looking to replace my 2010 BMW E90 with a CPO 2013-14 E Class. I ended up buying a 2014 E350 4matic w/ sport package @ MB Tysons Corner. Here are a few thoughts as you work through this:

- I know you're not limited to CPO but it's my understanding that you cannot purchase a MB extended warranty for a car purchased at a non-MB dealer. I went CPO as I basically have up to 4.5 years and unlimited miles worth of warranty.
- I thought I wanted a luxury model before I did the test drive. I just didn't like the way the luxury drove, it was "too luxurious" for me. That said both luxury and sport are more comfortable than my BMW. I'm very happy with the sport but it's not as tight as the BMW - no surprise there.
- I had a very good buying experience w/ MB of Tysons Corner. Happy to connect you with my salesman if you are interested.
- If you are at a MB dealership, don't buy the extended warranty or maintenance plans w/out doing online research. There are a number of threads in the forum on finding the best pricing.
- As I'm sure you've noticed, there are a large number of late model E350s in the area. I cross-shopped a number of dealerships and there are deals to be had.

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I just traded my 13 4matic for a 14 RWD. LOVE IT. Worth the extra money for the new body style imo. I highly recommend the sport version. CPO imo is not worth the extra money. I plan on buying a third party warranty after the 4/50 factory one is up
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Originally Posted by dvdit
After reading a bit more I have dropped the 2010 and 2011 models and now looking into 2012-2014. Still lot of research to do to see which year is the best year for the E350. I will test drive the luxury and sport version to see which one I prefer when I am ready to pull the trigger.


As someone with both a 13 and 14, go with the 14!!! The front looks SOOO much better, and the interior blue lighting is pretty slick.
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Originally Posted by CINCYFAN
- I know you're not limited to CPO but it's my understanding that you cannot purchase a MB extended warranty for a car purchased at a non-MB dealer. I went CPO as I basically have up to 4.5 years and unlimited miles worth of warranty.
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I thought you can buy MB extended warranty if you had bought the car from a non MB dealership or private party (if the original warranty has not expired).
Once the car is CPO'd by an MB dealership, then you cannot get MB ELW (but CPO is good enough).
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I thought you can buy MB extended warranty if you had bought the car from a non MB dealership or private party (if the original warranty has not expired).
Once the car is CPO'd by an MB dealership, then you cannot get MB ELW (but CPO is good enough).

There seems to be some conflicting information about this particular issue. I was told by MBUSA that MB ELW can only be sold to the original owner of the vehicle if the vehicle is not CPO. Thus if the vehicle was purchased from a private party or a non-MB dealer, the second owner would not qualify to purchase the MB ELW.

But others on this forum have stated they were able to purchase the MB ELW even though they had purchased their car from a private party or non-MB dealer.

My experience was that I was not able to purchase a MB ELW even when the vehicle was transferred among family members. (i.e. given to me by a parent). However I was able to get the original owner (family member) to purchase the MB ELW in their name then transfer the MB ELW to me.
Happened on more than one occasion.

So maybe some dealers have found a way to sell MB ELW to non original owners, or maybe MB is not enforcing that rule anymore. or maybe something else all together.
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I would check the extended warranty forum. It seems lots of people buy extended warranties from the dealers mentioned in that forum. It may be that the dealers want you to buy their 3rd party warranties because they make more money on them and don't want to sell the MB warranty.
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I would check the extended warranty forum. It seems lots of people buy extended warranties from the dealers mentioned in that forum. It may be that the dealers want you to buy their 3rd party warranties because they make more money on them and don't want to sell the MB warranty.
If you're referring to my reply, I checked directly with MBUSA about it. I'm not sure how it would benefit MBUSA to not sell me a MB ELW.
I've also checked with a few of the dealers in the extended warranty forum and was also told the same thing.
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I tried with my vehicle, bought used from an MB dealership, not CPO. While still in factory warranty it was "not eligible for MB ELW". Dealer told me if they don't CPO the car, the MB warranty cannot be offered. I even tried a third party dealer after the sale was complete, from out of state, and he said the same thing.
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If you're referring to my reply, I checked directly with MBUSA about it. I'm not sure how it would benefit MBUSA to not sell me a MB ELW.
I've also checked with a few of the dealers in the extended warranty forum and was also told the same thing.
Maybe that's new then. Lots of changes recent, no more free EPC-Net and the daily rate for Star Tek is way up.

Also you can't buy the MB extended warranty or CPO if you got it from an MB dealer. Other person mentioned that they bought it from a non MB dealer and still couldn't get it. The dealers in those other forums used to sell it. Sometimes there may be reasons like it was a previous CPO so that would also not qualify for the extended warranty.
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Originally Posted by CINCYFAN
dvdit - I'm in NOVA and went through this process a couple months ago. I was looking to replace my 2010 BMW E90 with a CPO 2013-14 E Class. I ended up buying a 2014 E350 4matic w/ sport package @ MB Tysons Corner. Here are a few thoughts as you work through this:

- I know you're not limited to CPO but it's my understanding that you cannot purchase a MB extended warranty for a car purchased at a non-MB dealer. I went CPO as I basically have up to 4.5 years and unlimited miles worth of warranty.
- I thought I wanted a luxury model before I did the test drive. I just didn't like the way the luxury drove, it was "too luxurious" for me. That said both luxury and sport are more comfortable than my BMW. I'm very happy with the sport but it's not as tight as the BMW - no surprise there.
- I had a very good buying experience w/ MB of Tysons Corner. Happy to connect you with my salesman if you are interested.
- If you are at a MB dealership, don't buy the extended warranty or maintenance plans w/out doing online research. There are a number of threads in the forum on finding the best pricing.
- As I'm sure you've noticed, there are a large number of late model E350s in the area. I cross-shopped a number of dealerships and there are deals to be had.

Good luck!
CINCYFAN - I was checking auto-trader in my area and I noticed that they have a few E350 at MB Tyson's corner. I am still reading through the forum and checking out prices and good independent mechanics online before going to test drive and negotiate. Because I tend to keep a cars for longer that 10 years, I need to understand how much the ownership is going to cost me in the long run. I wonder what deal could be negotiated with them though How much discount should one expect form the advertised price?
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Originally Posted by pamiboy
I thought you can buy MB extended warranty if you had bought the car from a non MB dealership or private party (if the original warranty has not expired).
Once the car is CPO'd by an MB dealership, then you cannot get MB ELW (but CPO is good enough).
This is my understanding also from reading some of those threads. Also, I am a second owner purchased from non-MB dealer and I was offered the MB ELW since my car was not previously CPO'd. If a dealer tells someone otherwise, they should move onto the next.
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Good discussion about the MB ELW folks! Learning new thing everybody.
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Originally Posted by dvdit
CINCYFAN - I was checking auto-trader in my area and I noticed that they have a few E350 at MB Tyson's corner. I am still reading through the forum and checking out prices and good independent mechanics online before going to test drive and negotiate. Because I tend to keep a cars for longer that 10 years, I need to understand how much the ownership is going to cost me in the long run. I wonder what deal could be negotiated with them though How much discount should one expect form the advertised price?
If you plan on keeping the car for 10 years, you will be out of warranty for more than half of the time you own it, and since you are already used to maintaining European cars, I'm not sure you would get that much value added out of any extended warranty. These warranties are for folks that want the peace of mind that if something major breaks, they will be covered for most of the cost. You gotta know that the cost of the coverage far outweighs the average cost of repairs that they pay for, otherwise they would go out of business.

I think when I researched it, the average cost was about 1000 a year for around 12K miles per year. If I drove it for 3 years and nothing major happens, I'm 3 grand ahead. If something does break, then anything less than 3 grand in repairs and I'm still ahead. So far, about a year and a half into ownership and 20K miles and shes doing fine.

Any modern vehicle can have issues, some more than others. Keeping up with scheduled maintenance is the best bet to avoiding major mechanical issues and you are already cool with doing that yourself. Buy the car that makes you smile when you get behind the wheel and treat it like your baby. That will probably be the best insurance you have against problems down the road.
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Thanks for you input aquinob. I was scared to death when I bought my 1996 Range Rover 4.6 back in 2000 with only 42K miles. I was coming from a Toyota and a Honda Civic. I have to say my RR has been very dependable. I have about 137k now and only major thing I have done was take out the electronic suspension at a cost of $1500. It has been rock solid otherwise.

I also have to add, I have far greater satisfying experience with the independent shops compared to the RR dealers when in comes to service. I will mostly likely will go that route for the E350 once the 50K transferable warranty runs out.

Question: Does the car have to be maintained at MB dealership for any transferable warranty to be honored?
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agree that it's peace of mind. I came out ahead on the two ones I have bought in the past but I normally don't get them. Jury is still out on my MB but I have almost 4 years left.

Dealer service is not required. But with all warranties you must keep maintenance records to be able to prove you had it done. Of course read any terms to be sure you know what is expected.
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I got an ELW for the first time ever and I'm ahead. On an American or Asian car, I wouldn't bother, but European cars have too many very expensive to repair things happen to them.
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Warranty is big business, both dealerships and auto manufacturers make lots of money from consumers. You only hear from those who use it, but nothing from one that shell out thousands of $$$.
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Originally Posted by dvdit
Hello all,

New to this forum but not new to forums in general. I research most of the stuff I buy and put a considerable research effort before buying anything over $1000. I have yet to be disappointed with anything I have bought after a thorough research for the last 10+ years. I am hoping you guys will be able to assist me my next major purchase, a Benz.

Background: My current vehicle is a 1996 Range Rover 4.6 HSE. This car has been a worry free car for me contrary from what I have read online. I bought the car in year 2000 with 43K miles on it. Current mileage on the car is 138K. No major issue except wear and tear on breaks, rotors and tires. All have been replaced twice. I have experienced issues with the electronic air suspension and based on the recommendation on the Range Rover forum, I replaced with a manual suspension in 2005 and I have had no issues since then. I have done all the recommended maintenance until I hit 80k and since then the only maintenance I done is change the oil every 3000 miles, change cabin filter and air filter but that is it. Car still rides very nice. I hoping any MB E350 class I buy would give a trouble free ride like my RR did.

I am looking into buying a used E350 2010-2014 with a very low mile, certainly not more than 50K miles but most likely at around 40k or below. I live in Silver Spring, MD USA and have seen quite a few with low miles and within my price range which is under $30k US. I may spend a bit more for the 2014 model. CPO would be nice but the price goes up considerably higher, so not sure if it is worth it if I buy one with 40k miles on it.

Not sure what the major differences are between 2010 -2013. They look the same from the exterior and the 2014 looks it has been redesigned with minor changes to the exterior. I am in the preliminarily stages of my research so I have not l test drive any of the models. I am still trying to learn the differences between this models. Reliability is very important to me as this will be my only means of transportation so I don't want to spend my time or money at the dealership.

Can you please educate ma a bit the differences between this model and which one I should concentrate my research? I am looking into a good balance between reliability, interior, appointments, ride handling etc...

Also what is the major difference between the luxury 4Matic model and the sport 4Matic model?

Thank you all for your assistance, much appreciated!

I got an 2011 e350 if you want text me up and ill send you all the info and pics. if you interested send me a text 4405541333
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is 30K out the door? or is not include tax and fees for that car?
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is 30K out the door? or is not include tax and fees for that car?
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That was just the car. Another 1200 or so I think on top.
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i am looking to buy 2014 E350.. I will probably wait end of this year for the price to drop
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If the car has had regular maintenance and not been in a wreck its hard to go to far wrong. These cars are very well made.
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Is is normal for the E350 to depreciate by $25K in the first two years? I see quite a few of the 2014 model going below $34K with only 20-30K miles on them? I see some 2011 and 2012 model with under 35K miles selling for $26-27k. Anything I should be concerned about the 2014 model? OR is this the used market price trend for E350 or MB in general? I rather buy the 2014 model for $6-7K more unless the 2011-2013 are rock solid in terms of reliability the the 2014 model.
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There are many changes depending on the year. Also don't look at it as 25k in depreciation, most people didn't pay list price and probably many of those you see are leases returns. Leases can have their own incentive but those off lease cars are the ones hitting the market now. So yes, it's normal to have high depreciation on a luxury car. The 2010-2011 have the airbag recall and the one you pick may or may not be affected. Also they had the older 268hp engine. Direct injection started in 2012. In 2014, eco mode showed up, some hate it because it shuts the engine off when you're stopped and you have to hit the button each time you start the car to disable it. They also got rid of the bixenon headlamps with headlamp washers and just did LED. Bixenons are brighter than LED, but cost more. On the other hand new features appeared such as collision prevention assist. But many used ones don't have a lot of options so it may be a moot point like how distronics has been around a long while, but you still don't see it too often although later models tend to have it more often than older ones.


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