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2016 COMAND NTG 5s1 (5.1) RETROFIT from NGT4

 
Old 06-01-2017, 03:40 AM
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We have activated the option codes in Vedoc, because of that new updates where available which where not available before: FW update, carplay update, mirrorlink update and google update. We have the updates and they are now uploading into the unit

VERY VERY excited, nearly there, IF this completes as expected, it's the first Carplay enabled retrofit I think?
Also got a WIFI hotspot in the car now
And because the unit was added to the VIN we could buy official media and activation pin

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Carplay works

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Hi,

Kudos to your work!

What do I need to buy and do if I want to upgrade a 2013 CLS63?
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It's not really my work, I did my homework, bought a unit, made a shoppinglist and went to Mbenznl,

Steve did all the hard work.
It's not cheap, for a factory quality retrofit you'll need:
Comand NTG5*1 unit that fits your car
Matching screen
Interface cable
Media upgradekit
Usb cable / usb hub
wlan antenna
Comand maps
comand navi activation pin
New multicontroller for middle console
Cooling fans for in dash

Depending on how much you pay for the comand unit itself the above additional parts will set you back €1k ordering from a dealer.
Then the unit itself will typically cost around €3k new, but you might find a 2nd hand.

So that's roughly 4k€ on hardware, maps and pin.

Then you will need to find someone with access to vediamo and XENTRY.
The unit will need to be coded online to be added to your VIN in VEDOC
this is critical to trigger software updates that enable carplay / mirrorlink. No online coding > no updates > no carplay!!

I had mbenznl do mine, he enabled all options that my car supported and did hide all the menu's that don't work in my car (nearly everything works, only the KW/NW meter doesn't run, we even tried new engine FW, but there is just no signal feed)

Regarding hours, again it's not cheap, it's a multiple day job, fitting, but also coding, waiting, updating FW, finding out car specific pitfalls etc etc.

Long story short, you will need deep pockets, where you can save if you source efficiently, if you buy a 2nd units and settle with a hacked pin you can easily acquire all hardware for half. But you won't have a FACTORY type install with all options appearing on your datacard. If a dealer now searches on my VIN, they'll see that I have a COMAND NTG5*1 and V6 maps, Wlan etc.

Long story short, DON't try this a home, without access to vediamo, for a factory type install you need vediamo, xentry dev license and write access to vedoc system. Find a capable installer, highly recommend mbenznl

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This looks great! I'm considering purchasing a 2010 W212, and to see that some users have newer comand working is exactly what I was looking for. I don't mind spending some to get the newer electronics, while saving when buying an older car.
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Great news! one day I hope to do this to my 2012 cls.
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And today we completed the COMAND with the MOPF dashboard unit
Now all new streaming services can be controlled by the arrows as well
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Will it work on 2013 G63

Will this modification work on 2013 G63?
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Hi i updated my car with new comand online 5.1 from radio audio 20 ntg5. It works fine but i cant access to internet online mercedes, i added new code on data card of my car (531 code) , but still not working..who can help me? thank y
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Originally Posted by Chris The Swede View Post
ATTENTION!!

2012-2015 you can do this with no problem..

Your in luck!
All works fine since it has a totally different esp than 2010-2011 or can be fitted with one.
Hello. I'm new on the forum and I'm impress with this post. Chris you are a master!
I have done this installation in my w176 A class 2013. I have installed an Audio20 navigation ntg5.
It is almost working but I have no info os navi and radio on the dash board and also the USB is not working. Do you know where can be the problem?

Thanks! Great job!
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Hello. I'm new on the forum and I'm impress with this post. Chris you are a master!
I have done this installation in my w176 A class 2013. I have installed an Audio20 navigation ntg5.
It is almost working but I have no info os navi and radio on the dash board and also the USB is not working. Do you know where can be the problem?

Thanks! Great job!
You mean speedometer? You need a converter for that or a new speedometer.

Also you need the new USB module. See my you tube video.
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You mean speedometer? You need a converter for that or a new speedometer.

Also you need the new USB module. See my you tube video.
Thanks for replaying!

where can I buy the convertor for the cluster or speedometer? And the USB?

thanks again
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Thanks for replaying!

where can I buy the convertor for the cluster or speedometer? And the USB?

thanks again
I offer the module. USB you can find on ebay or your local dealer.
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I offer the module. USB you can find on ebay or your local dealer.
ok. If you give your email we can talk in private about the price.
Isuppost the USB is just the cable. It doesn't have a module, rigth?

Thanks again!!!!
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Its been done in W204...

Actually the NEEDED programming is just the anti theft pin code. The rest is optional..

Hi Chris, how do you resolve the anti theft message? Can help me?
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Hi Chris, how do you resolve the anti theft message? Can help me?
I generate them for your VIN number. Then you aply them with Vediamo.
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I generate them for your VIN number. Then you aply them with Vediamo.
Can you generate this for me?
My radio serial is: ME7450E4042555
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Can you generate this for me?
My radio serial is: ME7450E4042555
PM me.or mail me at [email protected]
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Hi, I'm new in this forum, I have a 2013 CLS63 with the old 4.5ntg nav. just wanted to know will it work if I continue using old ntg4.5 with a new 2015 screen (only buying a 2nd hand display screen). the new screen will be fitted in a dash mount of course since the two screenside sound speaker need to be removed. Thanks!!!I only want a bigger screen :-p
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Hi, I'm new in this forum, I have a 2013 CLS63 with the old 4.5ntg nav. just wanted to know will it work if I continue using old ntg4.5 with a new 2015 screen (only buying a 2nd hand display screen). the new screen will be fitted in a dash mount of course since the two screenside sound speaker need to be removed. Thanks!!!I only want a bigger screen :-p
No the 2015 have The 5s1 screen and that do not work at all with old comand.
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No the 2015 have The 5s1 screen and that do not work at all with old comand.
I see, unfortunately I live in London, I don't think there is anyone who can help me with retrofitting the whole comand ntg5. I can only do it myself. Do you know where can I find those interior cables connecting the head unit and the screen?
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I see, unfortunately I live in London, I don't think there is anyone who can help me with retrofitting the whole comand ntg5. I can only do it myself. Do you know where can I find those interior cables connecting the head unit and the screen?
Take the VIN from a car that have them from factory and Just buy them at the local dealership.Not that expensive.
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Here is a really cool new item I will do instead in my W212...YES I am one of those that like the new screen designs.
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