Raymond Lee

I wonder if VW is dragging 2017 e220 Bluetek with it in USA?

ktr

EPA is reviewing all U.S. diesel vehicles. http://www.reuters.com/article/us-bm...-idUSKCN10D2DP

Raymond Lee

Thank you much for the information.

sawitt

Thats very interesting. Recently I was looking at the MB USA website for the 2017 E Class models and noted there was no diesel. I saw an article in Car and Driver about the '17 E Class and it said they may not bring the E220d into the US until fall 2018 but it didn't mention the EPA approval issue. I wish we Americans weren't so fickle about diesel engine cars. And as an engineer I'm seriously angry and disappointed with the ethics and integrity of the engineers of VW and/or Audi who have set the reputation of diesel engines back many years. I really thought that diesels were gaining a significant foothold here in the last few years.

Trelos

BMW decided to not bring new diesel 7-series to U.S. Due to VW's Dieselgate.

Raymond Lee

BMW 535d diesel has been approved by EPA for sales in USA but MBZ has not. MBZ does not seem to admit they have problem with diesel like VW. Very interesting!

ktr

The OM 654 is a all new engine for the U.S. market. So it is not surprising that approval will take a little longer, especially with the ongoing emissions probe.

Raymond Lee

I appreciate your information. Thank you. I had no idea about OM 654.

Raymond Lee

DUH a German environmental organization conducted real life emission test between May-Aug this year turn out MBZ e220d as cleanest car among 36 models from the world. Next in line was Audi and VW. No other cars passed. Maybe we might see e220d Bluetek in USA after all.

HAILERS2

https://www.dieselnet.com/news/2016/02daimler.php

Also Jaguar has a 2.0 liter diesel available right now for their XE and XF models and F-Pace.

BMW USA in the 'Bulid' area show you can 'build' a 535D right now, unlike the MBUSA site.

I'm in the mkt for a diesel late next year. Which one hasn't been determined yet. Mercedes may lose out the way their going right now............meaning I Hate/Loathe that they removed the six cylinder diesel from their lineup. I'm a owner of a ML350 Bluetec by the way, with the six cylinder diesel.

Raymond Lee

2017 e22d seems to be night and day differ in terms of design and feature. Talking about mileage, it gets 70 MPG on high way. Check it out in You Tube!

pamiboy

Are those test done in US?
In Europe or elsewhere the mpgs are not comparable with US since their emissions and other parameters are different AND the size of gallons are different. The British gallon is 4.5 liters where as US gallon is 3.785 liters.
Can you confirm where was the 70mpg figure from?

Raymond Lee

I just saw it in you tube. I am just supposing it was done in USA. I asked dealer. They said it was true.

Raymond Lee

Too bad e220d is not coming to US at least for 2016. It seems so phenomenal car even with small engine. e220d will start sales in Asian market after 3 months delay caused by VW emission scandal. Korean market has government approval for sales now.

ktr

According the UK brochure, the ~70 mpg figure was obtained using the New European Driving Cycle (NEDC). This is equivalent to <46 mpg using the EPA test.

Raymond Lee

Not sure but MBZ dealer said it is correct. Maybe smaller engine and new 9 speed trans. does it.