sears1234

I just bought a 2016 leftover E400 sedan, it has 1k miles, dealer also CPO it.
I'm more than happy now.
The car feels much stronger than E350.

PeterUbers

It's a sweet ride and better value than e43amg

nice get

SteveE400

I think you'll find the E400 to be just a basket of fun. I think they mis-named the "S" button. They call it "Sport" but I call mine the "stupid" button -- because of the big, stupid grin it pastes on my face whenever I use it.


We named my E400- "Gonzo." Just like the muppet -- he (definitely a boy, for lots of reasons) is sort of blue-grey color (steel grey), his nose is longer than his tail, and he will do some really gnarly things if you push his buttons. (If you have kids, you may remember muppet Gonzo singing "The Flight of the Bumblebee" while he eats up a truck tire.)


Somebody once called the E63 "an axe murderer with headlights." If that is so, then the E400 is a serial killer with headlights. My grey sedan is nearly invisible, but if pressed, is seriously quick. Not like the E63 at the top end, but in town it is close enough that I am very rarely intimidated in the stoplight grand prix.


I get the impression that there are not that many E400 sedans around. I'm glad to meet another owner here.

Merserybenze

That makes 3 of us. Mine is 2016 Designo interior. Nice ride. I'm looking to get it performance tuned. Anyone with a E400 done that?

baybombers

I ended up with a CPO E350 because of the price point but I was tempted by the used E400s. They seemed to be a great value for the buck.
Congrats.

sears1234

before I bought this e400, I just extended two year warranty for my last e350, but after testing drive of this e400, I cannot move myself away from this beauty. I think Mercedes should give all e-class this engine at least.

tresean1

Awesome, congrats!!!
Yes, I nearly thought that the US market didn't get any E400's...because I never see any 2014+ E550's, and all I see mostly are E350's.
So tell me, what is different about the E4000---what makes it "special"? I am tempted to look at them now...

sears1234

Immediately notice is the low end torque, and the torque response.
This make my wife thought if I press the gas pedal too hard on this new baby at first.

Second is the sound, it sounds better than 350.

Third is the brake, the brake felt more safe.

sears1234

jahquan3

Beautiful car and yes the torque is one of the items many E400 owners have spoken of fondly. That and the additional Hp over the 350 is a comfortable middle spot for many.

KEY08

^ exactly. Much better performance than the 350 and tunable as well for more.

tresean1

Very nice. Is that Polar White?
So does the E400 have turbo V6?

dieseldoc

Nice ride!

sears1234

somewhere it list as bi-turbo, since this is basically new car, I haven't open engine hood yet.

sears1234

I was struggling between 17 E300 and this 16 E400, after testing driving both, I felt in love with this E400 more.
If MB put this engine in w213, and mark a fair price tag, it will be sold like hot cake!

jahquan3

3.0 Liter Bi-Turbo I believe it is.

tresean1

Yeah, I have no idea why they thought it'd be appropriate to put the 300 engine in the base model (and initially, the only model) W213. About the same torque as 350, but less hp...

tresean1

Thanks jahquan. Whats the hp and tq figures?

sears1234

I found this 15 E400 data at mbusa.com
E400:
Net power
329 hp @ 5,250-6,000 rpm
Net torque
354 lb-ft @ 1,600-4,000 rpm

E350
Net power
302 hp @ 6,500 rpm
Net torque
273 lb-ft @ 3,500-5,250 rpm

you can see the low torque is huge different.

jahquan3

^ Beat me too it . Good job. The torque is the real difference plus it's a fairly cheap tune. Also many items come standard on the 400 that have to be optioned into the 350 like leather and many of the safety features.

tresean1

Cool. So was the E400 meant to be a replacement to the E550? Or is it just the next level of progression sort of how the E320 transformed into the E350 eventually?

raja777m

E300
Net power
241 hp @ 5,500 rpm
Net torque
273 lb-ft @ 1300 rpm

raja777m

for 2017, looks like E300 replaced both E350, E400 and E550..!

raja777m

How the question is, How 'good/reliable/cost to maintain or repair' is Mercedes with Turbo?

I know BMW sucks my bank account, if tranny goes bad, no way to rebuild.
Audi does something that lets us keep our kidneys.

How about mercedes? When did Merc. came into market and did it establish good results overall?

I'm always afraid to get Turbocharged models, even though they give better output and MPG, I feel, we are asking more out of a small engine and eventually, it's life span will decrease. One main reason to stick to 3.5-4.0 V6 NA engines (TL, SH-AWD, W212 4Matic etc.)

KEY08

There is only one E Class sedan for 2017. E300 w/or without 4Matic. That is it.