Big Brake Kit Question for 4-Matic W212
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Big Brake Kit Question for 4-Matic W212
Interested in whether or not anyone has successfully upgraded the brakes on their 4-Matic W212 (2010 - 2012)?
In my search so far there are plenty of 2wd but no 4-matic examples.
Also - pardon my ignorance but why are these kits so expensive? There are entire AMG engines going for less than some of these kits.
In my search so far there are plenty of 2wd but no 4-matic examples.
Also - pardon my ignorance but why are these kits so expensive? There are entire AMG engines going for less than some of these kits.
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My only question is why? How fast are you going? I find the stock ones fine. Still driving on the same set of front pads the car came with when I bought it used as the guy had just changed them. With the book value under 15k, I don't even see the point of spending an extra 1-2k on upgraded brakes when it will add no value to the resale value of the car. I can't believe that I have parktronic, P2, pano roof, dyanmic seats and those options don't even add any extra value to the car, at least according to nadaguide.com.
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Well I plan on keeping the vehicle until the wheels fall off. I haven't seen anything that inspires me to reach for my wallet in a long time regarding newer models outside a Tesla. I prefer the body of the older E class over the newer ones but that's just my opinion. My brakes will need to be replaced soon so I'm saving up to do the job myself and figured I could source used parts and upgrade to AMG brakes admittedly for the looks over anything else. I agree 100% with you on the resale which is why I have no issues keeping what I have. Cars are depreciating assets anyway so I might as well squeeze emotional value out of her by making her my own vs fretting over the coins she's leaving behind as the months / years go by. I've seen brake kits up to 8k and wondered what the deal was / what makes them so expensive. As you stated - that's over half the cost of the entire car!
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I'm guessing that big brake kits for W212 are expensive because of the tiny market. Despite what a lot of people believe, bigger brakes don't stop better, unless one overheats the stock brakes consistently. Of course, not too many people track W212 (most likely reason for how to overwhelm stock brakes), nor do they modify them much, so the market for upgrades isn't big. You have to remember that these cars were designed to perform acceptably on the Autobahn, where stopping from high triple-digit speeds isn't uncommon.
If you're after some performance upgrades that aren't that pricey, consider Racing Brake 2-piece rotors, and perhaps some tried-and-true aftermarket pads (Akebono is supposedly good). The 2-piece rotors won't be any better than stock in day-to-day road use, but the rotors are floating to mitigate warpage, and are lighter for less unsprung weight. Aftermarket pads may alter the feel of actuation, which you may prefer.
If you're after some performance upgrades that aren't that pricey, consider Racing Brake 2-piece rotors, and perhaps some tried-and-true aftermarket pads (Akebono is supposedly good). The 2-piece rotors won't be any better than stock in day-to-day road use, but the rotors are floating to mitigate warpage, and are lighter for less unsprung weight. Aftermarket pads may alter the feel of actuation, which you may prefer.
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The stock OEM pads on my 2010 E550 4Matic were stamped Akebono, complete with star logo and official part numbers. As said MB is all about safety and the brake systems have always been engineered to perform. SBS braking wasn’t their most stellar attempt to redefine braking but they have always been at the top of the game and use the best products(Brembo,etc). Keep what you have unless you just like the look of giant calipers. My Shelby has 6 piston Brembos, but it is a track car and can go through a set of pads in a couple of weekends. Lol. You don’t want that
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Interested in whether or not anyone has successfully upgraded the brakes on their 4-Matic W212 (2010 - 2012)?
In my search so far there are plenty of 2wd but no 4-matic examples.
Also - pardon my ignorance but why are these kits so expensive? There are entire AMG engines going for less than some of these kits.
In my search so far there are plenty of 2wd but no 4-matic examples.
Also - pardon my ignorance but why are these kits so expensive? There are entire AMG engines going for less than some of these kits.
Most members only purchased two piece rotors and probably not aware that we are capable of building a complete RB caliper kits that are highly efficient, cost effective, and with lasting performance like we did for Lexus community where "not a lot" of people track. (except some ISF)
https://www.racingbrake.com/category-s/7134.htm
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RacingBrake stock replacement light weight 2cp rotor option (4-Matic Sports only):
https://www.racingbrake.com/ProductD...oductCode=2255
Status: Ready to ship
Feature and weight info:
https://www.racingbrake.com/ProductD...oductCode=2255
Status: Ready to ship
Feature and weight info:
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2014 E550 4MATIC TUNED - Turbo Upgraded Stage 3
This gets our attention. RB brakes are helping MB owners better control their cars, not necessary for tracking a better brake not only can make your daily driving more enjoyable, but can lower your maintenance/replacement cost over the time.
Most members only purchased two piece rotors and probably not aware that we are capable of building a complete RB caliper kits that are highly efficient, cost effective, and with lasting performance like we did for Lexus community where "not a lot" of people track. (except some ISF)
https://www.racingbrake.com/category-s/7134.htm
Most members only purchased two piece rotors and probably not aware that we are capable of building a complete RB caliper kits that are highly efficient, cost effective, and with lasting performance like we did for Lexus community where "not a lot" of people track. (except some ISF)
https://www.racingbrake.com/category-s/7134.htm
Thank you!!!
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RB 4/2 pot caliper kit with 360/330 rotors* like this popular upgrade kit for Lexus IS300 (fit under 18" wheel)
https://www.racingbrake.com/RB-Calip.../lx-irp-11.htm
This kit can modernize most of the MB models to the same rotor size as C63 (07-18). However C63 comes with 6/4 pot calipers & heavy bulky 1 pc rotors (which we offer 2pc replacement), so they are not as efficient as our 4/2 pot calipers with light weight 2 pc rotors.
RB BBK has the look, price, performance & durability.
https://www.racingbrake.com/RB-Calip.../lx-irp-11.htm
This kit can modernize most of the MB models to the same rotor size as C63 (07-18). However C63 comes with 6/4 pot calipers & heavy bulky 1 pc rotors (which we offer 2pc replacement), so they are not as efficient as our 4/2 pot calipers with light weight 2 pc rotors.
RB BBK has the look, price, performance & durability.
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2014 E550 4MATIC TUNED - Turbo Upgraded Stage 3
RB 4/2 pot caliper kit with 360/330 rotors* like this popular upgrade kit for Lexus IS300 (fit under 18" wheel)
https://www.racingbrake.com/RB-Calip.../lx-irp-11.htm
This kit can modernize most of the MB models to the same rotor size as C63 (07-18). However C63 comes with 6/4 pot calipers & heavy bulky 1 pc rotors (which we offer 2pc replacement), so they are not as efficient as our 4/2 pot calipers with light weight 2 pc rotors.
RB BBK has the look, price, performance & durability.
https://www.racingbrake.com/RB-Calip.../lx-irp-11.htm
This kit can modernize most of the MB models to the same rotor size as C63 (07-18). However C63 comes with 6/4 pot calipers & heavy bulky 1 pc rotors (which we offer 2pc replacement), so they are not as efficient as our 4/2 pot calipers with light weight 2 pc rotors.
RB BBK has the look, price, performance & durability.
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It only shows reference set up and price but it's for Lexus IS series. Brake kit for E550 and E350 will be different than that but can be designed and built quickly in about 6-8 weeks if there is enough interest.
Do you know the popular wheel size of these models?
Do you know the popular wheel size of these models?
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I'm in a 2012 E550 4matic with airmatic suspension running F 19x8.5 35 offset and R 19x9.5 40 offset. How much would a kit for our cars run?
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I'm in a 2012 E550 4matic with airmatic suspension running F 19x8.5 35 offset and R 19x9.5 40 offset. How much would a kit for our cars run?
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Proposed 360mm front and 330mm rear brake kit should fit well under 19" wheels. This set up can upgrade E550 brake to the same as C63 (standard non BS).
Complete kit shall cost less than $4K and you will receive:
*Our XT910 performance street compound is getting very popular for those who hate the brake dust and squeaking, but like to have a well modulated braking power.
Complete kit shall cost less than $4K and you will receive:
- 2 RB 4-Piston front caliper (6061-T6 forged aluminum alloy)
- 2 RB 2-Piston rear caliper (6061-T6 forged aluminum alloy)
- 2 Front RB Iron Rotors (360x32mm)
- 2 Rear RB Iron Rotors (330x24mm)
- 4 Aluminum caliper adaptors
- 1 Car set of RB street performance brake pads (see options to upgrade)
- 1 Car set of stainless steel braided brake lines
*Our XT910 performance street compound is getting very popular for those who hate the brake dust and squeaking, but like to have a well modulated braking power.