No one on here had an intake manifold issues?
09-09-2018, 06:34 PM
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No one on here had an intake manifold issues?
i heard M272 intake manifold had an issues that flaps get broken and causes internal engine damage if we don’t change the intake manifold on time.
i could not find any single thread on 2010-2011 w212 intake manifold issues.
Also did a mecredes made an improvement on the new intake manifold if I decided to buy it from the dealership?
i could not find any single thread on 2010-2011 w212 intake manifold issues.
Also did a mecredes made an improvement on the new intake manifold if I decided to buy it from the dealership?
09-09-2018, 07:11 PM
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i heard M272 intake manifold had an issues that flaps get broken and causes internal engine damage if we don’t change the intake manifold on time.
i could not find any single thread on 2010-2011 w212 intake manifold issues.
Also did a mecredes made an improvement on the new intake manifold if I decided to buy it from the dealership?
i could not find any single thread on 2010-2011 w212 intake manifold issues.
Also did a mecredes made an improvement on the new intake manifold if I decided to buy it from the dealership?
http://www.underhoodservice.com/inta...mercedes-benz/
09-09-2018, 09:42 PM
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I did read the that link but all it saying is to replace rod? If I’m wrong please correct me.
if I just replace external parts then what about internal parts failing. If internal parts are failing then engine will get damage and I want to avoid that before that happens so best thing to do is to replace the intake manifold. Right?
Does anyone know if buying the new intake manifold from the dealership are new version?
if I just replace external parts then what about internal parts failing. If internal parts are failing then engine will get damage and I want to avoid that before that happens so best thing to do is to replace the intake manifold. Right?
Does anyone know if buying the new intake manifold from the dealership are new version?
09-09-2018, 10:53 PM
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I've not heard of this but anything is possible. I also didn't get whether the intake needed complete replacement or if MB has a mfg-approved fix "kit". If they have a kit then it seems logical that this is an identified issue by MB.
I did find
Edit - I was curious about repair process so I poked around looking. Seems that in most cases the front plastic center connector snaps. The internal runner flaps/shafts are a plastic assembly that can also jam or crack. But you have to split the intake to replace them. The intake has to be removed to do the front connector arm repair so that's the time to check condition and operation of runner flaps/shafts. IMO I would probably replace the intake with oem Pierburg as it comes with new front actuators etc. rather than fiddle with breaking down the intake pulled from the car. I think MB has replacement connector and rods in plastic but there are aftermarket steel versions. Theres a YouTube about an indy MB repair shop that makes machined replacement parts that look good. I do wonder though why MB chose to do them in plastic , as in did they purposely make them the weakest link in the system? Maybe over thinking this. For me though, since its my "free" labor, if I had to pull the intake for a broken connector link, I would probably tend to replace that intake just to ensure I was starting again with brand new intake flaps, etc. More parts cost but not any more labor to me.
Good explanation of runners in this video
He even throws out a formula at around 14:00.
I do wonder how many cars are affected by this as I'm sure many run 100k++ without issue. Yet if they make these kits surely there are a significant number that need them. Interesting.
I did find
Edit - I was curious about repair process so I poked around looking. Seems that in most cases the front plastic center connector snaps. The internal runner flaps/shafts are a plastic assembly that can also jam or crack. But you have to split the intake to replace them. The intake has to be removed to do the front connector arm repair so that's the time to check condition and operation of runner flaps/shafts. IMO I would probably replace the intake with oem Pierburg as it comes with new front actuators etc. rather than fiddle with breaking down the intake pulled from the car. I think MB has replacement connector and rods in plastic but there are aftermarket steel versions. Theres a YouTube about an indy MB repair shop that makes machined replacement parts that look good. I do wonder though why MB chose to do them in plastic , as in did they purposely make them the weakest link in the system? Maybe over thinking this. For me though, since its my "free" labor, if I had to pull the intake for a broken connector link, I would probably tend to replace that intake just to ensure I was starting again with brand new intake flaps, etc. More parts cost but not any more labor to me.
Good explanation of runners in this video
He even throws out a formula at around 14:00.
I do wonder how many cars are affected by this as I'm sure many run 100k++ without issue. Yet if they make these kits surely there are a significant number that need them. Interesting.
Last edited by Mud; 09-10-2018 at 10:49 AM.
09-10-2018, 01:56 PM
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I’m going to replace the whole intake manifold instead of wasting time on those kit part. Kit part only contain external parts and no internal parts.
I can sleep better with just replacing the whole intake manifold that’s better than we don’t know how long will internal parts last after replacing external kit parts.
I can sleep better with just replacing the whole intake manifold that’s better than we don’t know how long will internal parts last after replacing external kit parts.
09-10-2018, 04:57 PM
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It seems that an actuator lever like the one in
would be a good idea, even on a brand new intake. But pricey at $200 with 2 intake gaskets included. I also see some other metal actuator levers on eBay etc, except I liked the slight revision to preload angle they incorporated. But anyway, I think getting a metal lever to replace the plastic version is feasible.
Last edited by Mud; 09-10-2018 at 05:04 PM.
09-10-2018, 08:26 PM
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Metal or aluminum better? I know they make in aluminum actuator. This is suck that we have to replace intake manifold at every 150k-160k mileage. I’m planning to keep it for long term and I hope someone out there make an better intake manifold for our car.
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09-11-2018, 02:17 AM
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Go to the W211 forum and search the threads there, way more coverage on it. I'd basically wait til you get an error code before replacing it. Otherwise you'd be replacing it too soon before it goes bad. Doesn't seem to be any aftermarket makers of it so far, The M272 was in the 2006-2009 years whereas it's just 2 years in the W212, just 2010 and 2011 before it got replaced by the M276 in 2012-2016.
09-11-2018, 07:56 PM
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Okay I might wait until I get the code or maybe replace it before I get the cel( I don’t want to damage the internal engine parts). I will also have to look in the w211 forum. Hope I can find something.
thanks you for your help!
thanks you for your help!
09-11-2018, 08:46 PM
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Do some online comparison shopping.
The replacement is Pierburg and will have the flap actuators and sensors attached to it already. Get new intake and throttle body gaskets and new injector orings. Replacing smaller vacuum lines at this time is a good idea if they have some age to them. I would replace the oil separator and cover at the passenger back side of the intake with new as well. I poked around and found pelican parts, fcpeuro and even eBay have new oem Pierburg intakes.
The replacement is Pierburg and will have the flap actuators and sensors attached to it already. Get new intake and throttle body gaskets and new injector orings. Replacing smaller vacuum lines at this time is a good idea if they have some age to them. I would replace the oil separator and cover at the passenger back side of the intake with new as well. I poked around and found pelican parts, fcpeuro and even eBay have new oem Pierburg intakes.
09-12-2018, 08:05 PM
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eBay intake price
I was reading your post again and please correct me if I’m wrong. Are you saying 2010-2011 M272 didn’t have issues like 2006-2009?
Cheapest I can find is from website on eBay, if u can look at it’ll be great for me.
https://m.ebay.com/itm/BRAND-NEW-MER...MAAOSwz7NaYA9X
i just want to make sure I get a brand new intake,I do not want a rebuilt or remanufacture kind. if I decided to buy that intake from the link I provided above then I will buy aga manifold intake lever kit also.
Cheapest I can find is from website on eBay, if u can look at it’ll be great for me.
https://m.ebay.com/itm/BRAND-NEW-MER...MAAOSwz7NaYA9X
i just want to make sure I get a brand new intake,I do not want a rebuilt or remanufacture kind. if I decided to buy that intake from the link I provided above then I will buy aga manifold intake lever kit also.
09-12-2018, 08:55 PM
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I was thinking of doing porting service for intake and I’m going to ask them if they can make aluminum flaps on internal part of intake manifold better.
Thinking of calling this shops tomorrow:
https://www.cfmperformance.com/services.html
http://www.wilsonmanifolds.net/wm/ec...ormation_id=13
http://www.nwpengineering.com/
Thinking of calling this shops tomorrow:
https://www.cfmperformance.com/services.html
http://www.wilsonmanifolds.net/wm/ec...ormation_id=13
http://www.nwpengineering.com/
09-13-2018, 10:01 AM
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It seems to be an unnecessary expense to port and modify an intake on a stock engine. You could probably replace it several times for what it would cost to modify.
I saw the intake you linked and it appears to be an oem Pierburg but nobody knows for sure until it's actually in hand. Assumption is also that the vacuum actuators and sensors are also oem but again, that's not verified from a picture. I suggest you contact the seller and verify all components. If in doubt spend a few extra dollars for a part you are sure of.
Don't take this wrong, I know you care about your car, but it's a pretty straightforward fix ( intake and metal actuator link). Plus ensuring the oil separator is functioning properly. Many of these cars go for many miles without need for replacement. I think if you replaced the intake and oil separator, added the steel link, you would be set for many miles. Can't see getting into all the intake porting, etc.
I saw the intake you linked and it appears to be an oem Pierburg but nobody knows for sure until it's actually in hand. Assumption is also that the vacuum actuators and sensors are also oem but again, that's not verified from a picture. I suggest you contact the seller and verify all components. If in doubt spend a few extra dollars for a part you are sure of.
Don't take this wrong, I know you care about your car, but it's a pretty straightforward fix ( intake and metal actuator link). Plus ensuring the oil separator is functioning properly. Many of these cars go for many miles without need for replacement. I think if you replaced the intake and oil separator, added the steel link, you would be set for many miles. Can't see getting into all the intake porting, etc.
09-13-2018, 07:48 PM
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I didn’t take a wrong at all. I know you all trying to help me out and I appreciate that. I’m just going to buy a intake with steel kit and replace it later maybe 10k mileage later.
i did contact the eBay seller from the link I provided above and he told me it’ll not fit.
So so I will have to look for other seller.
i did contact the eBay seller from the link I provided above and he told me it’ll not fit.
So so I will have to look for other seller.
09-14-2018, 01:55 PM
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I received the email from different eBay vendor and I asked him where was the intake made from and his replied is below:
OEM Pierburg Intake Manifold Assembly w/ Gasket Mercedes & Sprinter GAS
It will fit a 2011 E350 Base and 4Matic models. As for the country of origin,
unfortunately we cannot say because different batches will come from different
countries, and we have no control over it. We sell what we receive from the
manufacturer. The important thing is they are all made according to factory
standards, not country standard, so they will all be the same.
My question is if I buy the brand name like OEM Pierburg Intake Manifold. Then does it matter what country did it made in? I saw some eBay vendor had a intake manifold that was made in country of Germany and price was $600 I think.
OEM Pierburg Intake Manifold Assembly w/ Gasket Mercedes & Sprinter GAS
It will fit a 2011 E350 Base and 4Matic models. As for the country of origin,
unfortunately we cannot say because different batches will come from different
countries, and we have no control over it. We sell what we receive from the
manufacturer. The important thing is they are all made according to factory
standards, not country standard, so they will all be the same.
My question is if I buy the brand name like OEM Pierburg Intake Manifold. Then does it matter what country did it made in? I saw some eBay vendor had a intake manifold that was made in country of Germany and price was $600 I think.
