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Old 07-07-2019, 12:07 PM
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My names Panteleimon, people call me Panda, im greek but born and raised in sweden stockholm, im 33 and have allways driven bmws, today i have a volvo s60 sport. Lately iv been mesmerised by the incredible looks of mercs and specially w212 e class with amg styling. I want my next car to be this kind of merc, either facelift or pre facelift w212 from years 2012++ i love both these cars looks. I need your help and wisdom about how good mercs reliability is. My last car before the volvo was a lexus is 300h which i thought was too loud on the road, not a good isolation i mean, i could allways hear my tires and wind. my bmw and volvo have allot better isolation. anyway had to sell it to buy apartment, now that the apartment is bought i want to buy a car now, i want a merc. Im looking into e220cdi mostly because its very usual here in swe and doesnt cost too much. So hows mercs reliability compared to lexus or bmw f10? before the lexus i had a f10 520d with manuall box that need a change of gearbox because of reverse had problems. Cant put in reverse anymore. Gladly appreciate all answers and im sorry for the long boring post Help me decide are mercs w212 cdis reliable?

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Old 07-08-2019, 12:19 AM
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If reliability is your main concern, then you should’ve already known that German cars in general are usually not as reliable as your Lexus. If you want the Classic premium looks, solid build quality, well damped and comfortable ride and quality materials, then MB is a good choice. Of course it’s probably not going to be as much of a driver’s car as your BMWs are. You should really test drive several over a period of time before you decide to buy one. Quite often drivers who are used to BMWs find the driving experience of regular MBs less than satisfactory. The AMG line is a different story though. Good luck in your search.
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If reliability is your main concern, then you should’ve already known that German cars in general are usually not as reliable as your Lexus. If you want the Classic premium looks, solid build quality, well damped and comfortable ride and quality materials, then MB is a good choice. Of course it’s probably not going to be as much of a driver’s car as your BMWs are. You should really test drive several over a period of time before you decide to buy one. Quite often drivers who are used to BMWs find the driving experience of regular MBs less than satisfactory. The AMG line is a different story though. Good luck in your search.


thanks, one of my main concerns yes, having owned allot of bimmers i know that they can fail sometimes. Like my gearbox did. Havent owned a merc before and im very interested in getting one, have test driven allot of bimmers and mercs at my job. i have no problems with any of them and i like how they ride. both similar, i dont think either of them are sportier or whatnot. My main concern is should i worry about engine/transmission/turbo problems with a e220 cdi? if properly maintaned ofc. i dont drive like an idiot just about 30km to work and 30km back home. ofc im gonna get one that has low mileage and as new as possible. Little things besides engine etc dont bother me and im well aware that all cars can have faults and break down, just dont want these main parts to fall apart. like the bmw n47 engine, do later mbs have such problems`?

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In my opinion the E-class looks better BEFORE the facelift, i.e. before 2013 models. And I have come to a conclusion that the 2010-2011 models are better built than after that especially what comes to brakes.

My car is 2010 E550 with 165000 miles on the clock now and the only real problem was the rear air springs leaking that was fixed under warranty. I have complained to the dealer about rattles and Panorama sunroof popping noise. That was also fixed but the rattles are something that have mot been and I don't think there is a fix for those. New models probably have less rattles. But reliability has been just awesome. I did change the starter because it started to show signs possibly going out / pulling too much amps like others have also explained but that is the only bigger thing I have done on this 10 years old car.

What comes to road noise, there would be a lot of improvement to do on this car. Again, newer models may be better for this but I would not call this car quiet for wind of tire noise. You would have to go drive one to feel yourself.

220 CDI engine I know noting about. If it is a Diesel that I think it is then it probably is the same they use for taxi in Germany meaning it probably is one of the most reliable engines you can get.

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In my opinion the E-class looks better BEFORE the facelift, i.e. before 2013 models. And I have come to a conclusion that the 2010-2011 models are better built than after that especially what comes to brakes.

My car is 2010 E550 with 165000 miles on the clock now and the only real problem was the rear air springs leaking that was fixed under warranty. I have complained to the dealer about rattles and Panorama sunroof popping noise. That was also fixed but the rattles are something that have mot been and I don't think there is a fix for those. New models probably have less rattles. But reliability has been just awesome. I did change the starter because it started to show signs possibly going out / pulling too much amps like others have also explained but that is the only bigger thing I have done on this 10 years old car.

What comes to road noise, there would be a lot of improvement to do on this car. Again, newer models may be better for this but I would not call this car quiet for wind of tire noise. You would have to go drive one to feel yourself.

220 CDI engine I know noting about. If it is a Diesel that I think it is then it probably is the same they use for taxi in Germany meaning it probably is one of the most reliable engines you can get.

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sounds good man, i like both facelift and prefacelift models, though my budget maybe can get both i dont see that many amg line/amg sports with facelift, most amg style i see are prefacelift, they look very nice indeed. also not many petrols in sweden most available are diesels by far. i think ill get an 220cdi, wish i had the money to get the 2017++ modell but maybe in a few years, right now i can afford a 2012-2014. As long as engine+transmission are good than i dont think theres gonna be a problem, lesser stuff that can break is normal for any car. u say cabin is not so quiet while on motorway? would u say its more quiet than an audi or an e39?
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sounds good man, i like both facelift and prefacelift models, though my budget maybe can get both i dont see that many amg line/amg sports with facelift, most amg style i see are prefacelift, they look very nice indeed. also not many petrols in sweden most available are diesels by far. i think ill get an 220cdi, wish i had the money to get the 2017++ modell but maybe in a few years, right now i can afford a 2012-2014. As long as engine+transmission are good than i dont think theres gonna be a problem, lesser stuff that can break is normal for any car. u say cabin is not so quiet while on motorway? would u say its more quiet than an audi or an e39?
I have no experience of Audi other than a 2009 Q7 that I had. Was not any better. What is e39?

One item I forgot some people have had issues is with the 4-Matic transfer case bearing failure. I don't have 4-Matic myself as I live in no-snow area but this issue would seriously make me think if I would buy a Mercedes if I had to have an AWD car.
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