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Old Apr 28, 2020 | 01:43 AM
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Facelift w212 ils headlights conversion to europ

In Canada with 2015 w212 with ILS headlight package.
cant seem to find if any one managed to enable the functionality of the European counter parts, not just the auto high/low beam, but the adaptive high beam without glaring others?

Corner illumination and turning headlights is all I get.

And please don't mention legal implications, assume it's for offroad use
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Old Apr 28, 2020 | 04:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Badwolf
In Canada with 2015 w212 with ILS headlight package.
cant seem to find if any one managed to enable the functionality of the European counter parts, not just the auto high/low beam, but the adaptive high beam without glaring others?

Corner illumination and turning headlights is all I get.

And please don't mention legal implications, assume it's for offroad use
Hi, also in Canada, but with a 2014 model. Your car does have high beam assist. Push the signal stock away from you and make sure your light switch is on auto, when lights are on, you’ll see an icon in your instrument cluster with a high beam symbol with an A in it
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Old Apr 28, 2020 | 05:10 AM
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Hi, also in Canada, but with a 2014 model. Your car does have high beam assist. Push the signal stock away from you and make sure your light switch is on auto, when lights are on, you’ll see an icon in your instrument cluster with a high beam symbol with an A in it
I think they are well aware of what system they have....the query is in relation to 'upgrading' to the European version!
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Old Apr 28, 2020 | 05:17 AM
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I think they are well aware of what system they have....the query is in relation to 'upgrading' to the European version!

hmm slightly confused with what the OP is looking for. he claims that he doesn’t have high beam assist. that’s what is throwing me off. What’s so different about the european version? minus the orange marker lamps?
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Old Apr 28, 2020 | 05:45 AM
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hmm slightly confused with what the OP is looking for. he claims that he doesn’t have high beam assist. that’s what is throwing me off. What’s so different about the european version? minus the orange marker lamps?
Nope.....they don't claim to not have high beam assist!
The 'European ' version has the facility to leave the high beam on at all times but only dim the area in which there is another vehicle.
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Old Apr 28, 2020 | 06:20 AM
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Nope.....they don't claim to not have high beam assist!
The 'European ' version has the facility to leave the high beam on at all times but only dim the area in which there is another vehicle.
correct
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Old Apr 28, 2020 | 02:14 PM
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might wanna move to Europe then...

j/k

looks like a very complex system. 84 individual LEDs in each headlight? damn! Good luck!
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Unless you find someone locally, anyone who can do this for you will need to do it remotely which means you will need a STAR/DAS system and a means for them to log into it to do it.

Look for Alexander Hallenberg on Skype - he might be able to code it for you remotely. He's in Germany and you'll need to schedule around his local work hours.

Another option is MBRetrofits (info@****************). I 've met one of the guys but I haven't had any dealings with them doing any work on my car. The one thing they did tell me is that they can update the vehicle's vCard after coding work is done.
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Originally Posted by decorily
Nope.....they don't claim to not have high beam assist!
The 'European ' version has the facility to leave the high beam on at all times but only dim the area in which there is another vehicle.
oup your right. i know what your talking about now
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Someone has enabled it in a W205 C-class with the similar 4-projector LED system to what we have. We do not have the 84-LED multibeam system - that is on the W213s. The W212 and pre-facelift W205 adaptive high beam seems to be mechanical rather than lighting/darkening individual diodes.

If someone comes up with an inexpensive way to do this, I'd love it. But I've seen it in action in a video (search the W205 forum) and it is not so impressive where I would pay a lot of money for it. The lights - even in neutered form - are quite good and pretty actively shaping the beam pattern based on traffic.
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just turn your brights on...Eff everyone else! lol!

j/k, don't do that, it's rude...
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If somebody has success enabling this feature I would also be interested. Please let me know if you can find somebody to do it for a reasonable price!

Can anybody with the full, un-neutered system comment on just how effective it is? Does it really paint other cars out of the beam effectively while maintaining a lot more illumination than the low beams?

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Originally Posted by ccww
If somebody has success enabling this feature I would also be interested. Please let me know if you can find somebody to do it for a reasonable price!

Can anybody with the full, un-neutered system comment on just how effective it is? Does it really paint other cars out of the beam effectively while maintaining a lot more illumination than the low beams?
This is how it works on the pre-facelift W205. It would be very similar (probably exact) on our W212.


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Old May 1, 2020 | 09:36 AM
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I'd love to do this on mine.. there was a guy on reddit a while ago who was trying to get it worked out but I never heard any follow-up
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Old May 1, 2020 | 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by LILBENZ230
This is how it works on the pre-facelift W205. It would be very similar (probably exact) on our W212.

https://youtu.be/MDJB8rJ1g1A
Thank you for the video. Maybe it’s just hard to see on video, but I’m having a hard time telling any difference between that and the light behavior on my USA 2015 E250 Bluetec with ILS.

I also wonder if the European behavior of the low beams on the fog lamp setting (swiveling down and out) could be activated with the same coding. I’ve seen some reports on here that MB forgot to change the coding for the Bluetecs for North America and they act like the European ones with respect to the fog lights, but mine does not seem to do this sadly.
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Originally Posted by ccww
Thank you for the video. Maybe it’s just hard to see on video, but I’m having a hard time telling any difference between that and the light behavior on my USA 2015 E250 Bluetec with ILS.

I also wonder if the European behavior of the low beams on the fog lamp setting (swiveling down and out) could be activated with the same coding. I’ve seen some reports on here that MB forgot to change the coding for the Bluetecs for North America and they act like the European ones with respect to the fog lights, but mine does not seem to do this sadly.
Indeed some of the bluetec ones got missed on coding.

If you look carefully you can see it forming a black box around the car in front.

here is a better video:

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Originally Posted by LILBENZ230
Indeed some of the bluetec ones got missed on coding.

If you look carefully you can see it forming a black box around the car in front.

here is a better video:

https://youtu.be/P5hdv9Wk_5A
Thank you. That looks more impressive.

I wonder if the Bluetecs that got the Europe fog lamp coding also got the Europe high beam coding. Sadly this doesn’t seem to be me, unless I just haven’t tested the fog lamps within the right parameters for activation of the feature.

I wonder if only Bluetecs up to a certain VIN or build date got the Europe coding and then they caught it.
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[QUOTE=ccww;8044231 ......., unless I just haven’t tested the fog lamps within the right parameters for activation of the feature.
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If you direct your headlights at a wall at night and then switch on the rear fog lamp you should be ableto see the headlight beam change shape to adapt to fog conditions.
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Originally Posted by ccww

Can anybody with the full, un-neutered system comment on just how effective it is? Does it really paint other cars out of the beam effectively while maintaining a lot more illumination than the low beams?
I have the Multibeam LEDs on my GLC. ... they work extremely well and are an improvement on the previous Intelligent LEDs..
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I have the Multibeam LEDs on my GLC. ... they work extremely well and are an improvement on the previous Intelligent LEDs..
Agreed. Just returned a 2019 S213 450 wagon that I had as a loaner. It has the multibeam LED ILS. The beam pattern on those is much better and the high beam effect is cool.

Is there more light? That I am not so sure about.
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Old May 1, 2020 | 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by decorily
If you direct your headlights at a wall at night and then switch on the rear fog lamp you should be ableto see the headlight beam change shape to adapt to fog conditions.
Are there any other requirements such as being in drive or having the headlight switch in "Auto"? I know that MB states that it also activates only with limited visibility, is this something the stereo cameras determine or is it not considered?
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Are there any other requirements such as being in drive or having the headlight switch in "Auto"? I know that MB states that it also activates only with limited visibility, is this something the stereo cameras determine or is it not considered?
Not considered. If you point it at a wall, lights on in auto mode, and press the rear fog button the left beam should move. If it does not then it’s coded out.
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Old May 4, 2020 | 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by LILBENZ230
Not considered. If you point it at a wall, lights on in auto mode, and press the rear fog button the left beam should move. If it does not then it’s coded out.
Just tried last night, mine doesn't do anything, lights in auto, highb pushed in for auto, pressed fog light button and nothing changed, other then a little red light turning on on the left rear tail light.
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Just tried last night, mine doesn't do anything, lights in auto, highb pushed in for auto, pressed fog light button and nothing changed, other then a little red light turning on on the left rear tail light.
Then it is coded out. Perhaps only the 2014s managed to sneak by.
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Originally Posted by Badwolf
Just tried last night, mine doesn't do anything, lights in auto, highb pushed in for auto, pressed fog light button and nothing changed, other then a little red light turning on on the left rear tail light.
Try it again with the beam dipped manually.
I think it only works in dipped beam mode.
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