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Old May 29, 2021 | 09:19 AM
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My daughters Volkswagen Eos has Amber plastic on the rear lights, they are disabled.I believe LB is correct it was how much surface area the red part is and wether they meet the requirement for 50 cm squared of red.

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Old May 29, 2021 | 12:43 PM
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The Effectiveness of Amber Rear Turn Signals for Reducing Rear Impacts
https://crashstats.nhtsa.dot.gov/Api...ication/811115

I agree with the study, in fact at certain situation/scenario, if we know that RED is surely a brake light , we can have at least 1 second faster response time.
1 second is 26.8 meter at 60 MPH and that is 5.x car length of a W212.
1 second is when one is paying proper attention to the surrounding.



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Old May 29, 2021 | 02:17 PM
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Yep they should have been amber but stupid US laws.
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Old May 29, 2021 | 08:03 PM
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Finally made a good video of them in action

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your review was awesome!! Thanks for making it. Really shows how good the technology works.
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Old May 30, 2021 | 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by S-Prihadi
The Effectiveness of Amber Rear Turn Signals for Reducing Rear Impacts
https://crashstats.nhtsa.dot.gov/Api...ication/811115

I agree with the study, in fact at certain situation/scenario, if we know that RED is surely a brake light , we can have at least 1 second faster response time.
1 second is 26.8 meter at 60 MPH and that is 5.x car length of a W212.
1 second is when one is paying proper attention to the surrounding.
Yes, I saw two Volvo XT60's a Lexus, also a Kia and a Ford with amber rear turn signals today. .
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Old Jun 16, 2021 | 04:42 PM
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My brother and I will be purchasing the ILS+ activation for the 2014 E350 sedan and 2015 E400 sedan from Vladimir, really excited. I really like the light output and will post pictures and videos once i get them and test them out. I live in California.
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Old Jun 18, 2021 | 02:31 PM
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Anyone have trouble getting a response from Vladimir? I sent him an email a week ago and have heard nothing back.
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Old Jun 18, 2021 | 03:52 PM
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Old Jun 20, 2021 | 10:23 AM
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Old Nov 12, 2021 | 08:23 PM
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Makes sense. I was going to code a friend's car, and he simply asked the question, if I don't like it can I turn the function off? First off, I don't know why you'd want to turn it off, it's awesome lol. But I figure I'd check what it does.

Anyway, I think it's important to remember whether you're coding it yourself or using the module, you're not simply turning 628 on/off. You're actually coding the car as if it was in a right hand traffic European country.

The USA version is called ILS as well, and we are all are familiar with its functions. The European version is just ILS+.
The USA versions conform to SAE regulations and the European versions conform to ECE regulations.
It is interesting that The Euro gives you an option to turn it off in the cluster, but the things it turns off we're just different than what I assumed.
I found a guy here in Toronto that has his coded for ILS+ but the front side marker lights are on. I think it was done at a shop here. Have you found how to turn on the front side markers with coding after setting it to ILS+ by any chance?
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Old Nov 23, 2021 | 02:56 AM
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Hey, I was the "guy here in Toronto" I decided to turn off the front side markers for asthetic/cosmetic reasons. While it does mean my car is not in complience and decreased night recongigition by other cars, I do appreciate the look without them. We also found out Motorway Mode was not yet enabled on my car, a coding that was missed with my inital ILS+ coding. I do notice a slight increase in illumination on the highway now, with Matrix lighting a bit more controlled on the highway.

Happy to see the intrest in ILS+ coding for W/S212 facelifts.

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Old Nov 23, 2021 | 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by MB_FanAddict
If you have your own MB Xentry diagnostic system with Vediamo, it is possible to have a hybrid of ECE and SAE coding, to retain the headlamp side markers and defog function, along with having increased night security illumination brightness and dimmed (instead of off) DRL's with turn signal activation.

See attached file for the necessary coding values in both the left and right headlamp control units.
following up, the key trigger for this seems to be:

HLI_FL212 and HLI_FR212*

9. VCD_Vehicle data set_LDC

Data (9) 212M ILS SAE

SAE = side marker lights, ECE = none

i’ll experiment with the other values in the txt file and see what else I can find out.


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Old Nov 24, 2021 | 08:57 AM
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Just read that the US Infrastructure bill that was pushed through also approved the ILS for the US. Any thoughts that Merc will allow for re-coding? I anticipate "you must buy a new car to get this program," some BS that it is not backwards compatible, or the US law only applies to 2022 or later.

https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/a...ture-bill-law/
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Old Nov 24, 2021 | 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by ACSchnitzersprt
Just read that the US Infrastructure bill that was pushed through also approved the ILS for the US. Any thoughts that Merc will allow for re-coding? I anticipate "you must buy a new car to get this program," some BS that it is not backwards compatible, or the US law only applies to 2022 or later.

https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/a...ture-bill-law/
I was wondering that as well, I made a friend who is a tech at a Mercedes dealership the other day who also owns a W212E63 like mine. He Said he was quite impressed at my how-to video, that shows how the headlights could be recoded, and had no clue that you could actually change to the European coding. He also said that no one there really messes with vediamo. So, to think a dealer would actually do It is pretty far-fetched.
As another example, I also went into a dealership to ask if they could help me out with the coding for a 360 camera (before I bought my vediamo system), they said even if they could, Mercedes won't allow it simply because the car wasn't originally ordered with it.
Anyway, at least it technically makes these headlights legal that many of us have programmed.
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Old Nov 24, 2021 | 12:23 PM
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I have the park assist, cameras, and sensors- I am wondering if distronic could be activated or lane departure? If it knows well enough to break when I haven't, why not? lol
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Old Nov 24, 2021 | 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by ACSchnitzersprt
I have the park assist, cameras, and sensors- I am wondering if distronic could be activated or lane departure? If it knows well enough to break when I haven't, why not? lol
I'm fairly certain anything -can- be done, much of it comes down to finding the parts.
For example to buy the parts to add 360 camera to my E63 from the dealer would be over 4,000. However I've priced them all out on eBay from dismantlers and looks like I could acquire them all for about 800 bucks or less. However I'm factoring that the used 360 camera module can be unmarried from its original car and married to my VIN. If that can't be done I'd have to buy the module from Mercedes which is about $900 by itself.
Anyway, My friend has an identical E63 with surround cam so I backed up all of his settings for the camera, if I were to acquire the parts I'd simply just code it exactly like his coded an in theory it should work.
For distronic, I'm sure you have to have all the correct modules installed, just run a plus uses two cameras in the windshield not one. Once you find out all the parts, try to find somebody that can give you all the necessary codigs from their car.
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Old Nov 24, 2021 | 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by kenneyd
I was wondering that as well, I made a friend who is a tech at a Mercedes dealership the other day who also owns a W212E63 like mine. He Said he was quite impressed at my how-to video, that shows how the headlights could be recoded, and had no clue that you could actually change to the European coding. He also said that no one there really messes with vediamo. So, to think a dealer would actually do It is pretty far-fetched.
As another example, I also went into a dealership to ask if they could help me out with the coding for a 360 camera (before I bought my vediamo system), they said even if they could, Mercedes won't allow it simply because the car wasn't originally ordered with it.
Anyway, at least it technically makes these headlights legal that many of us have programmed.
it does but you technically need the side marker light be be legal in the US and Canada. In Canada the ILS has been legal since 2018 now, but the side marker is required (like in the US)… per the above you need to keep one parameter as SAE when it’s being coded, for reference..
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Old Jan 9, 2022 | 10:23 AM
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@kenneyd can you help with the coding for the pre facelift? I have a 2013 and am interested in this. @S. Madman Are you still liking the upgrade?

Thanks!!

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Old Jan 9, 2022 | 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by badbenz94
@kenneyd can you help with the coding for the pre facelift? I have a 2013 and am interested in this. @S. Madman Are you still liking the upgrade?

Thanks!!

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So there is another member here who is about 45 min away who says he has the euro version ILS on his 2012. If I ever get a break from work I'd love to meet up and scan his car.
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Old Jan 10, 2022 | 04:38 AM
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Originally Posted by ACSchnitzersprt
Just read that the US Infrastructure bill that was pushed through also approved the ILS for the US. Any thoughts that Merc will allow for re-coding? I anticipate "you must buy a new car to get this program," some BS that it is not backwards compatible, or the US law only applies to 2022 or later.

https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/a...ture-bill-law/
Here in Canada, we got the European software for the ILS on the 2020 Mercedes'. I asked the dealer if they could code it in, and I asked 5-6 dealers, and they all pretty much said no.
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Old Jan 10, 2022 | 05:29 AM
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Here in Canada, we got the European software for the ILS on the 2020 Mercedes'. I asked the dealer if they could code it in, and I asked 5-6 dealers, and they all pretty much said no.
you have to get a coding shop to do it - here in Toronto there is one, buy an SDConnect (or possibly a passthrough) and install Vediamo and do it yourself, find one of us with a setup near you, or wait until perhaps the 2022 model. Mercedes won’t do anything in Canada until the US makes it legal..they don’t want some poor Canadian to get their car impounded driving to the US!!

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Old Jan 10, 2022 | 01:05 PM
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So there is another member here who is about 45 min away who says he has the euro version ILS on his 2012. If I ever get a break from work I'd love to meet up and scan his car.
Enabling ILS on Xenon Cars don’t make a huge difference in my opinion. I have a W166 with ILS+ enabled and the lights do turn more on the road, but nothing compared to the matrix like system in the 212 Facelift.

You do get motorway mode and countryside mode i believe.
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Old Jan 10, 2022 | 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by ml3504matic____
Enabling ILS on Xenon Cars don’t make a huge difference in my opinion. I have a W166 with ILS+ enabled and the lights do turn more on the road, but nothing compared to the matrix like system in the 212 Facelift.

You do get motorway mode and countryside mode i believe.
Thank you.

What is motorway and countryside modes?

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