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Old Jul 18, 2020 | 11:56 AM
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W212 Wagon spare wheel location? Photos, please?

You folks with the W212’s are lucky, seeing as they all came from the factory, properly equipped with a spare wheel/tire. I just picked up a 2019 W213 E450 Wagon and, as many of you know, it is equipped with run flat tires and does not come with a spare. Worse yet, there is NO ROOM to house a spare—even a compact unit—under the cargo area floor, where it belongs.

I am on a quest to see if I cannot modify my wagon—in a very “factory like” manner—so I can carry a spare, concealed under the cargo area floor. So, I thought I would ask one of you fine W212 Wagon owners, if you might not post a couple of photos of your spare, so I can see just where & how it was done on your car. Any help would be most appreciated, thanks!
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Old Jul 18, 2020 | 03:27 PM
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The spare tire in under a false bottom below the third row seat cushion/compartment.



In the picture above, you see both parts of the third row (backrests and seat bottom) are deployed. You would remove the seat bottom/trunk panel and that recessed area now in the trunk floor is a false bottom, which can be lifted and reveals a spare tire and subwoofer.
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Old Jul 18, 2020 | 04:33 PM
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The spare tire in under a false bottom below the third row seat cushion/compartment.



In the picture above, you see both parts of the third row (backrests and seat bottom) are deployed. You would remove the seat bottom/trunk panel and that recessed area now in the trunk floor is a false bottom, which can be lifted and reveals a spare tire and subwoofer.
Thanks very much. Might anyone have a photo of the well with the spare removed?
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Old Jul 18, 2020 | 11:10 PM
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Old Jul 18, 2020 | 11:20 PM
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Thanks very much. Might anyone have a photo of the well with the spare removed?
Absolutely perfect! Thank you SO much!
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Old Jul 20, 2020 | 05:27 PM
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S213 has run flats? I guess I will have to cross that one off my list when its time to replace my S212.
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Old Jul 20, 2020 | 07:37 PM
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I guess we'll have to make our S212s last! What does it look like under the floor of the S213? Do us a favor and post photos of yours.
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Old Feb 24, 2021 | 10:37 AM
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Could someone please post a picture of what's underneath the foam tool tray? Is it just the spare tire (as in my car) or are there other parts between the two? The EPC shows several parts that are supposed to go under the foam tray but that are greyed out meaning they are not applicable to my car's VIN#. I'm curious to see what others have there as my car generates a lot of rattle in this area going over rough roads or potholes.

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huh, just realized (after putting everything back), where's the aux battery back there??!?

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huh, just realized (after putting everything back), where's the aux battery back there??!?
ah, google answers my question...


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Old Feb 24, 2021 | 03:25 PM
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re runflats and no spares... the diesels are like that, because the DEF tank is in the trunk. any version with staggered wheel sizes is like that too, because you can't have two different size spares.

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Old Feb 25, 2021 | 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Left Coast Geek
re runflats and no spares... the diesels are like that, because the DEF tank is in the trunk. any version with staggered wheel sizes is like that too, because you can't have two different size spares.
My E63 wagon has staggered wheels and a spare tire. Pretty sure some other late model non-AMG W212s came with 4-matic, staggered wheels, and a spare from the factory.
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Old Feb 25, 2021 | 04:11 PM
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ah, closer perusing of hte 2016 brochure says at least in 2016, JUST the diesels have the 'extended mobility' aka runflats, with no spare.
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Konigstiger - thanks for the parts diagram. As I stated, a whole bunch of parts below #350 (the foam tray for the tools) are greyed out. What surprised me is that part #390 (the mounting screw) is not greyed out. Yet, it is missing from my car. I don't understand the purpose of that part if the other greyed out parts are not present.

Left Coast Geek - thanks for the pictures, particularly the last picture on your post. This matches completely with my car. The question remains why the parts diagram shows the mounting screw as not greyed out.

Bottom line - I hear rattling noise from this area going over rough roads. The tools seem to be tightly tucked in their slots. Anyone hears rattling from this area? Any suggested solutions? I will try placing a thick sheet of foam on top of the tools to see if that addresses the rattle. I'll report the findings soon.
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Konigstiger - thanks for the parts diagram. As I stated, a whole bunch of parts below #350 (the foam tray for the tools) are greyed out. What surprised me is that part #390 (the mounting screw) is not greyed out. Yet, it is missing from my car. I don't understand the purpose of that part if the other greyed out parts are not present.

Left Coast Geek - thanks for the pictures, particularly the last picture on your post. This matches completely with my car. The question remains why the parts diagram shows the mounting screw as not greyed out.

Bottom line - I hear rattling noise from this area going over rough roads. The tools seem to be tightly tucked in their slots. Anyone hears rattling from this area? Any suggested solutions? I will try placing a thick sheet of foam on top of the tools to see if that addresses the rattle. I'll report the findings soon.
EPC isn't perfect... I don't have that mounting screw either on my '11 E350 wagon. My BMW has a similar screw and plastic bucket with corresponding "nut" to secure the spare down to the floor. That said, I don't hear any rattles from that area as the spare and tools "sit" tightly in there. I would remove the tool tray and wheel and see if the rattle stops. Then go from there...
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Originally Posted by bmwpowere36m3
EPC isn't perfect... I don't have that mounting screw either on my '11 E350 wagon. My BMW has a similar screw and plastic bucket with corresponding "nut" to secure the spare down to the floor. That said, I don't hear any rattles from that area as the spare and tools "sit" tightly in there. I would remove the tool tray and wheel and see if the rattle stops. Then go from there...
Thanks, good suggestion! I'll try that.
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Make sure it isn't the rear seatbacks and that they are properly latched.. I've seen that somewhere here on the forums.
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Make sure it isn't the rear seatbacks and that they are properly latched.. I've seen that somewhere here on the forums.
Thanks. Did you see it here - https://mbworld.org/forums/e-class-w...ise-back.html? I'll try the various things suggested on this other thread.
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Thanks. Did you see it here - https://mbworld.org/forums/e-class-w...ise-back.html? I'll try the various things suggested on this other thread.
That's the one!
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Found the culprit!

Notice the foam piece off it's original position at the edge of the metal reinforcement arm (1st picture). The 2nd picture shows scratch marks on the mating painted metal section of the rear footrest where this reinforcement arm is supposed to rest and the foam is supposed to prevent metal-to-metal movement and rattle. For how the foam piece is supposed to be positioned at the end of the reinforcement arm, see the marked up area on bmwpower36m3's picture (3rd picture below).

Anyone else noticed this on their w212 wagon?

There is no part# for the foam piece in the EPC. I'll try generic foam of varying thicknesses to see what works best. Let me know if someone has a suggestion on what would work best here.




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Old Mar 24, 2021 | 07:35 PM
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I did retrofit a rear facing bench seat on my e63 wagon, using my neighbour E400 as guidance. he did not have a spare either, but the two cars looked almost identical back in there.
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