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Old Jun 5, 2021 | 05:57 PM
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The calipers on the 2012 E550 are quite a bit bigger than the E350 of any year.

You will introduce a lot of heat to that braking system by having metal so close to it.
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Old Jun 5, 2021 | 08:02 PM
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My rotors and calipers are bigger on my '13 sport than my '12 luxury. backs are identical. my cars ride different also, night and day difference. 17" on the luxury and 18 inch on the sport. I do not believe the 17" wheels would fit on my '13 sport, looks too tight, if they would I would do it in a minute.

Also my cars stop way different, I really have to be careful when I drive the '12, nowhere near the brakes of the '13, I have had some close calls in city traffic it's that noticeable, many times I drive both on the same day.

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Old Jun 5, 2021 | 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by pierrejoliat
My rotors and calipers are bigger on my '13 sport than my '12 luxury. backs are identical. my cars ride different also, night and day difference. 17" on the luxury and 18 inch on the sport. I do not believe the 17" wheels would fit on my '13 sport, looks too tight, if they would I would do it in a minute.

Also my cars stop way different, I really have to be careful when I drive the '12, nowhere near the brakes of the '13, I have had some close calls in city traffic it's that noticeable, many times I drive both on the same day.
I don’t think your brakes are any bigger than in my 2010 E550 and I put 17” wheels on it.
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Old Jun 6, 2021 | 01:28 AM
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Here is a video of a guy swapping for my brakes

The disks alone in the front are 344mm, mine are 360mm.

The caliper as you can see on this video
are most definitely bigger, so 17inch wheels will not fit on a 2012 E550 4matic sedan.

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Old Jun 6, 2021 | 06:23 AM
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on 13. e 550 4m 18 inch. continental pure works perfect for me
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Old Jun 6, 2021 | 10:13 AM
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I don’t think your brakes are any bigger than in my 2010 E550 and I put 17” wheels on it.
Well I would agree they are not bigger than yours, but the same, which is bigger than my '12's I don't see how, looks too tight, but if you've done it then it must work!
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Old Jun 6, 2021 | 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by pierrejoliat
Well I would agree they are not bigger than yours, but the same, which is bigger than my '12's I don't see how, looks too tight, but if you've done it then it must work!
It is tight fit. At first balance the weights they put on the rim were “clicking” against the caliper so they had to use lower profile weights and it is fine.
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Old Aug 17, 2021 | 11:36 PM
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This makes sense - my 2018 G550 recommends 35psi but I believe the earlier model w/ 18s stock are at 32psi.

But WOW... 35 and 41 for normal load! I guess it is a heavy car and explains the 'firmness' when I drove over bumps from the rear suspension of the car.

I think the Sports might have the same standard pressures -I actually thought this was a mistake in the service receipts of the wagon I'm looking at (Sport 2016). I have not seen 40+ psi recommended tire pressure and I've owned a bunch of cars

https://www.ipacket.info/WDDHH8JB9GB...a%7CT3%7Cfalse -


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because they do. on my volvo 740 wagon, I went from 15" /65 series to 16" /55 and they needed almsot 10 PSI more pressure for the same car.

the 245/45R17 on my 'luxury' E350 4m wagon are 35 psi front, 41 psi rear for normal loads, 35/48 for max load. pretty sure the 245/40r18 on a 'sport' wagon are about 5 PSI higher front and rear.

ok, one online tire pressure calculator calculator suggests 38 front for the 18", and.... whoa, says the XL(97) 245/40r18 is over capacity for the rear?!?

lets do this again. my sticker says GAWR Front is 2502 lbs, GAWR Rear is 3219 lbs, for a GVWR of 5721 lbs (geez, this is a heavy car!)

a Michelin Pilot Sport AS 4 in 245/40r18 XL has a load factor of 97, which is a max load of 1609 lbs at 50 PSI, so thats a GAWR of 3218. so yeah, 50 PSI rear.
ok, the ContiProContact MO (Mercedes) 245/40r18 XL(97), same max load, 51 PSI

the same tire model in 245/45r17 XL MO has a max load of 1709 lbs at the same 51 PSI, so 100 lbs more per tire at the same pressure. so yeah, less pressure for the same weight.

anyone who has a 'sport' facelift wagon, could you see what your tire pressure and weight spec plates say?
here's my 'luxury'...

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Old Aug 18, 2021 | 12:59 AM
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its the sidewall ration (the / number, like /40 or /45) that matters more than wheel size for the air pressure. that and yes, the total weight on that wheel.

heh, my 2002 F250 diesel truck specs 75 PSI rear at capacity load, but thats a 8800 lb GVWR, running (I think) LT265/75R16's.

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Old Aug 22, 2021 | 02:18 PM
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I have 2013 E350 4matic with sport package and the tire choice only 245/40R18. I hate this tire it only last around 20-30k and every time hit pot hole it bend the alloy rim. Is anyone ever convert from sport package to standard so it can use 17 inch rim? The problem with this low profile it cause damage to front drive shaft if it big pot hole and actually at 127 K miles the front drive shaft broke on connection to front differential and at 170K it break the u-joint in transfer case. I just fixed it by myself because Mercedes only want to replace whole transmission around $8k.
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Old Aug 22, 2021 | 02:30 PM
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yes, the 17" wheels from the 'luxury' package should fit on the sport package car, they use the same brakes (ok, 'sport' has drilled front rotors, but that's strictly cosmetic). 17" standard size is 245/45R17 XL, and for an E350 that is governor limited to 130MPH, an HR rated tire is fine.
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Old Aug 22, 2021 | 05:01 PM
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Thanks I almost had no hope because in costco as soon as i selec 4 matic sport package it only stated that it only accept 18 inch rim.
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Old Aug 22, 2021 | 05:07 PM
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I don't like Costco (or other bigbox store) tire shops... Costco broke wheel studs on my wife's old Volvo 240 overtorquring them, they scratched/dings rims on an older Mercedes, and I've never gone back. They have a very limited selection of tires, leaning towards the super-high mileage economy tires which tend to be harsh riding and noisy. I prefer using 'grand touring' class tires on these cars (for instance, Michelin Premiere instead of Defender). Make sure whatever tire you get has the XL rating, these are surprisingly heavy cars (my 2016 wagon has a GVWR over 5700 lbs!)
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Old Aug 22, 2021 | 05:50 PM
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I think you misunderstood that I have sport version of E350. My car is E350 2013 luxury sedan 4 matic but it had option 951 SPORT-PACKAGE USA. Do you that option in your E350 wagon? Do you still I can switch to 17" rim such as

Alloy Wheel - 17inch 9-Twin Spoke - Mercedes-Benz (207-401-01-02-9765)

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Original Alloy Wheel - 17inch 9-Twin Spoke for 2010-2013 Mercedes-Benz | OEM Part# 207-401-01-02-9765 | Benz Parts Store


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Old Aug 22, 2021 | 06:15 PM
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I do not have 951. but I think on the post-facelift (2014-2016) 212's, they rejuggled the packages

per this copy of the 2013 E series brochure, sports vs luxury was mostly an interior package, but they do not show the sporty wheels as an available option on the luxury model.
https://www.auto-brochures.com/makes...Class_2013.pdf

doesn't matter, the 17's should fit ALL E350 212's. only the AMG V8 cars have bigger brakes.

you can probably find some suitable used Mercedes 17's from some kid who swapped them for 19's or whatever stupidity. in addition to the ones you linked above, the facelift 17 5-spokes fit.



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I like how we all keep replying but the OP ghosted us. LOL.
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