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Old 07-28-2022, 01:21 PM
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Question W212 4matic tire setup

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I'm new here, so a similar thread or two probably exists, but I sadly wasn't able to find one.

Just bought a 2014 W212 E250 4matic with some hideous stock 17" wheels, and I'm looking to get something better looking. I scrolled through the W212 AMG fitment thread, but 99% of the cars there were rwd and I'm 4wd. From what I've understood, there's a slight difference between the two and what we can fit in the rear.

Want to buy some 19" wheels - does anyone know the specs of a flush setup? Was looking at:

1. 19x9 245/35-19 | 19x10 285/30-19
2. 19x9 255/35-19 | 19x10.5 295/35-19.

I know many claim that 20" rims are ideal for the w212, but I need the extra rubber for the poor roads here

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

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The bigger the wheel the more prone to bent wheels and in my opinion the worse the ride, but I'm old and looks are not the top priority! There are lots of threads on wheel and tire combos, on a 4 Matic you just have to keep the tire diameter within 2% or so and you'll be fine, but read through the threads from others here on sizing that will fit, you can run the staggered setup if you choose correctly, there are many threads on this. The offset is important too!
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If you have poor roads and need extra rubber then you might want to stick with the 17s. I practically crawl over railroad tracks with my 18s.
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I got 2013 e350 4matic 2017 with 18" rim. Until 2012 i am able to bend rim 4 times. It also cause damage to front shaft drive cost me 3000 to fix because when it broke it broke catalityc vonverter and oxygen sensor. Six month after that it broke the ujoint inone of gera in tranfer case. For MB that mean it had to replace transfer case and transmission which cost forpart only around $8k. That because impact of hit pot hole. So six month ago i downgrade the wheel size 17". So if you have a lot money go to 20" and you will know what goid for your car more rubber and air or less.
20 inch rim it use band of rubber not tire.

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Originally Posted by mercyfan
I got 2013 e350 4matic 2017 with 18" rim. Until 2012 i am able to bend rim 4 times. It also cause damage to front shaft drive cost me 3000 to fix because when it broke it broke catalityc vonverter and oxygen sensor. Six month after that it broke the ujoint inone of gera in tranfer case. For MB that mean it had to replace transfer case and transmission which cost forpart only around $8k. That because impact of hit pot hole. So six month ago i downgrade the wheel size 17". So if you have a lot money go to 20" and you will know what goid for your car more rubber and air or less.
20 inch rim it use band of rubber not tire.
I'm not exactly sure what you said but the meaning comes though.

As others said, stick with the 17 inch rims, there may be some other designs you can use. But basically with the 17 inch rims, I've only bent a couple of rims so far. I have 18 inch rims on my W211 and I've bent several rims and have cracked a few of them too. When they're cracked, they're not really worth welding and bending them back, it was cheaper buying new rims although W212 rim prices are still more than W211 prices. Also aftermarket rims are even worse, saw several cracked aftermarket rims with pieces missing at the place that fixed bent rims. Bent rims cost me $115 a rim to unbend, I think a cracked one would have been closer to $200 to first weld and then bend back. On my 18, I think I've had 4 bent rims and 2 cracked ones. The 17 just 2 bent ones so far. Oh and let's not even talk about flat tires just from potholes but at least they didn't blow out the rim.
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You guys must drive through minefields... Just get forged or flowforged wheels. The cast wheels will bend, forged ones will not. They're more expensive, but lighter and stronger.

Just curious, why do you need 295's on a E250? People aren't even running that on their E63's... I'm all for some extra meat (I'm on 275/35/18), but 295 is a LOT of tire.
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You guys must drive through minefields... Just get forged or flowforged wheels. The cast wheels will bend, forged ones will not. They're more expensive, but lighter and stronger.

Just curious, why do you need 295's on a E250? People aren't even running that on their E63's... I'm all for some extra meat (I'm on 275/35/18), but 295 is a LOT of tire.
It is a minefield out there. You hit some potholes that are bone jarring and once you hit them, you know it's bad when the TPMS starts giving you a notice a few seconds after you hit them. Not only that, but with aftermarket wheels, they stop making them a few years later so good luck trying to buy the same wheel when the later crack/bend years later. At least with an OEM rim, you can find used ones years later.

He doesn't need 19 nor does he need 295's. It's all for looks but people don't realize the expense and the engineering compromises in going with bigger rims/tires. Makes it look like a clown car if you ask me, but no one asked.
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Originally Posted by DeTh
You guys must drive through minefields... Just get forged or flowforged wheels. The cast wheels will bend, forged ones will not. They're more expensive, but lighter and stronger.

Just curious, why do you need 295's on a E250? People aren't even running that on their E63's... I'm all for some extra meat (I'm on 275/35/18), but 295 is a LOT of tire.
No real reason tbh, I just like the wide look. I've driven other cars for the past 6-7 years and never bent a wheel, so I guess my definition of bad roads differs slightly from the other guys' definitions here.

My main concern is getting a flush look without spacers, not so much the tire width. A garage a few hours away from me offers a staggered setup with 19x8.5 245/35 ET35 front and 19x9.5 275/30 ET40 rear. My concern is the 1.2% difference, 285/30 would get that down to 0.4%.

I've seen threads where people have said 4matic handles up to 3% difference, but I'd like to keep it as close as possible for peace of mind.

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Originally Posted by Dolandyret
No real reason tbh, I just like the wide look. I've driven other cars for the past 6-7 years and never bent a wheel, so I guess my definition of bad roads differs slightly from the other guys' definitions here.

My main concern is getting a flush look without spacers, not so much the tire width. A garage a few hours away from me offers a staggered setup with 19x8.5 245/35 ET35 front and 19x9.5 275/30 ET40 rear. My concern is the 1.2% difference, 285/30 would get that down to 0.4%.

I've seen threads where people have said 4matic handles up to 3% difference, but I'd like to keep it as close as possible for peace of mind.
yes, I run the 245/35-19 and 285/30-19 on my E63 AMG wheels. Offset is 37ET and 52ET. I could use a spacer in the rear, but I won’t. 285 is plenty meaty and provides a greater margin of 4Matic safety. This is on an E550 4M twin turbo.




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For me every bent rim or crack cost around $150 to fix plus paint. So I soent around $750 to fix wheel until i am changed to 17 replica Amg which made in Germany Riel and cost only $150. So if it bend i just replaced instead fix it. No more bent wheel and it been one year.

I dont thing to get forged wheel good idea. Maybe MB design it using light soft alloy so it acting as damper to absorb impact and if bend it protect the more expensive part such as engine or trans. If customer buy new wheel than more income for MB

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Originally Posted by Dolandyret
No real reason tbh, I just like the wide look. I've driven other cars for the past 6-7 years and never bent a wheel, so I guess my definition of bad roads differs slightly from the other guys' definitions here.

My main concern is getting a flush look without spacers, not so much the tire width. A garage a few hours away from me offers a staggered setup with 19x8.5 245/35 ET35 front and 19x9.5 275/30 ET40 rear. My concern is the 1.2% difference, 285/30 would get that down to 0.4%.

I've seen threads where people have said 4matic handles up to 3% difference, but I'd like to keep it as close as possible for peace of mind.
If you run an 18in setup, like I am, you can do 245/40r18 and 275/35r18, which is about half a percent. If you're dead set on 19's, then the 245/35 and 285/30 would probably be the route to go. I'm assuming you've done your measurements to determine the fitment you want?

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