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Flushed my transmission and torque converter. Pulled conductor plate to clean solenoids. Upon reinstall my car won't start or change gears. I did get it to start twice after install when I needed to run car to flush the torque converter. Had trouble before those two times and haven't been able to turn over since. The following codes failed.
_pts
U044700 implausible data from the Central gateway
U044700 implausible data from control unit transmission
_Park tonic u044700
implausible data were received from the Central gateway
_ism shift module a80
P179d00 redundancy system for direct select was activated
_tsm 1709 can communication with control unit a80 (intelligent server module for direct select )has a malfunction
U115100
Communication with switch group warning system has a malfunction
_Driver side Sam front signal accusation and accusation module
C44700
Implausible data were received from the Central gateway
-left xenon headlamp e1n1
U10388
Communication with diagnostic can bus has malfunction bus off
U103811
Communication with diagnostic can bus has a malfunction there was a short circuit to ground
Please help point me in the right direction. It's been undrivable for weeks and my only transportation.
Thanks
Gateway, ISM, F-SAM, Diag-CAN, ... are not related to tranny module - Anything specific we should know about this car (new parts, collision,...) ?
What modules are faulted after reset?
What problem symptoms do you want to fix: "no-crank" ?
What scanner you're using?
What is the system voltage currently?
> Can you enter each module individual sub-menu to clear fault , ie. not all together at once from top collective menu.
> If still stuck concentrate on restoring access to Diag-CAN and Gateway module.
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Nothiny about car. No accidents. Just purchased with roughly 58,000 MI it's now right about 60. No new parts except I gave it some k&N filters for intake and risers, oil change, transmission and torque converter flush. I have a o e tuner I got for it haven't used it only plugged it in to pull information for the tune but I haven't uploaded the actual tune. That's it off the top of my head it's currently on four rhino ramp style lifts which I know it can be funny with the wheels and enabling start.
As far as modules ism, pts, tsm, parktronic, drive side sam,
Battery is over 12 but at one point I saw the sensor voltage was 8.6. Also put a new auxiliary battery as well. As far as fixing I would like to be able to get it in gear and start it but obviously I would like to fix everything.
That much a low voltage causes extreme currents thus high heat damage in starter and to prefuse relay that feed the car. It's the kind of snowball you don't need before tuning land.
You're reporting over 12V now, yet something is preventing basic com and reset after a reboot.
If you can't get joy from my procedure in post #2...
I see your future pocking schematics to sanitize failed Diag-CAN and Gateway harness
I always recommend a serious shot with simplicity before the complexity to trace countless details.
Reboot it well and charge batteries before scanning. 👍
Last edited by CaliBenzDriver; 08-09-2022 at 01:04 AM.
Sorry didn't answer about individual resets. I am able to do so. It gives a historic then current reading, but even after trying individually Im not able to because they immediately fail. Not sure it's preventing it from resetting i think it's just failing even upon a reset but that's just a guess. I will try for longer reset than report back, thanks for taking the time so far.
=========== can you tell me, which module exactly produce this DTCs ? ====================== _pts
U044700 implausible data from the Central gateway
U044700 implausible data from control unit transmission
_Park tonic u044700
implausible data were received from the Central gateway
_ism shift module a80
P179d00 redundancy system for direct select was activated
_tsm 1709 can communication with control unit a80 (intelligent server module for direct select )has a malfunction
U115100
Communication with switch group warning system has a malfunction
_Driver side Sam front signal accusation and accusation module
C44700
Implausible data were received from the Central gateway
-left xenon headlamp e1n1
U10388
Communication with diagnostic can bus has malfunction bus off
U103811
Communication with diagnostic can bus has a malfunction there was a short circuit to ground
In my 3.0 Turbo M276, the tranny itself can not produce DTC, it is delegated to other modules.
ADD: For my car ================================================== ====
These 3 modules DO NOT have built in DTC data base in their respective unit I guess Engine Computer or Front SAM or N80 Steering Column is handling it.
01. Y3/8n4 - Fully Integrated Transmission Control unit (VGS). I read DTC for this module coming from N80 Steering Column Module.
02. A80 Shift Module (ISM)
04. N30/4 - Electronic Stability program (ESP).
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Seeing so many U codes you are having, there is a chance your CAN BUS to the tranny is shorted and that can bring down all within the same CAN-junction/distribution board
I give you an example : I was testing each fuse of my front SAM and see what DTC I get when I remove them one by one. At this point in time I was still using icarsoft Mb v2.0 and not Xentry.
Fuse 13 was removed, it is for N80 steering column module. See how may modules are reporting and see what kind of DTC they produce.
This is LOSS OF POWER, and loss of communication can also come from a module power loss
Last edited by S-Prihadi; 08-10-2022 at 11:14 AM.
Reason: add info
I also now hear a loud ringing when I turn my key to position 2 coming from underneath the car not hood. Always something it seems with this car. Shame too cause I really like it. Hopefully I can get it to where I have the kinks worked out, although I haven't seen very many high mileage of these out there.
I also now hear a loud ringing when I turn my key to position 2 coming from underneath the car not hood. Always something it seems with this car. Shame too cause I really like it. Hopefully I can get it to where I have the kinks worked out, although I haven't seen very many high mileage of these out there.
These cars are well built....
It sounds like it maybe one of your cooling fans or electric pump is spinning:
.. either engine radiator fan
.. or cabin blower A/C fan
You may want to disconnect all batteries to prevent draining the system battery during dry time.
Last edited by CaliBenzDriver; 08-10-2022 at 09:13 PM.
I believe it's coming from the transmission. Almost sounds like when you have a wire touching something it isn't supposed to. I guess I'm going to pull off the conductor plate again.
I believe it's coming from the transmission. Almost sounds like when you have a wire touching something it isn't supposed to. I guess I'm going to pull off the conductor plate again.
You know when you turn IGN :ON without starting the ECU really starts making loud PWM noise like crickets. A big hum is caused the throttle body holding it position (try playing throttle pedal with IGN:ON + Engine:Off)
I hope you don't pull your transmission apart again if it can be avoided.
Any chance you could show me a video of what your talking about. I'm pretty certain what's going on isn't normal. Could definitely be mistaken tho. I appreciate it it's deff not the best seeing as the bolts are 1 time use etc.. my thinking is that the noise is a short and I'm hoping once I get it connected properly it would solve the rest of the issues that followed. I originally spilled oil all over and it got on the connector. I sprayed with some electrical cleaner and tried to dry. With my hands it's actually a pain in the *** trying to connect that connector. Again I'm just throwing **** at the wall at this point. Went through the fuses and didn't see anything. Also my steering wheel and all still moves.
> Step back and regroup a bit...
you think tranny is causing all problems
1-- Tranny:
To work with the transmission adaptations you have to use a Xentry tool.
If I were you I'd concentrate on getting a Xentry instead of picking apart your transmission once more. As far as I can follow your project, nothing says that removing conductor plate is necessary to make progress towards driving condition.
2-- Soaker:
The laundry list of COM codes is more likely from the rain soak than tranny.
You can shift priority a bit towards that disruption. Look for visual signs and which modules are nearby point of water entry.
Pretty sure I can adapt with icarsoft3. Only reason I think transmision is bc it didn't have the issue until I got into it (originally was overheating at torque converter lockup). I'd love to get star I just don't have the weeks wait time until it arrives.
Pretty sure I can adapt with icarsoft3. Only reason I think transmision is bc it didn't have the issue until I got into it (originally was overheating at torque converter lockup). I'd love to get star I just don't have the weeks wait time until it arrives.
yep, I hear ya!
I don't know about the iCarsoft features. Hopefully it will serve you well.
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Pretty sure I can adapt with icarsoft3. Only reason I think transmision is bc it didn't have the issue until I got into it (originally was overheating at torque converter lockup). I'd love to get star I just don't have the weeks wait time until it arrives.
it's not weeks waiting, just 9 days
it will take you weeks to find out that you'll go nowhere with Icarsoft on these amount of problems
how will you clone or SCN a module with that thing ?
it's not weeks waiting, just 9 days
it will take you weeks to find out that you'll go nowhere with Icarsoft on these amount of problems
how will you clone or SCN a module with that thing ?
9 days delivered in the US? I was looking into your service bensninja. If that's all I'll prob move foward with it, just to have in case. Can you show me the exact one to purchase? Cheapest too lol. I tried to download WIS from eBay but that was unsuccessful so hopefully plug and play.
Ok so good news I think (knock on wood) I unplugged trans connector and that humming stopped. I then hooked back up to the scanner and everything it set off earlier was there, except this time it would say missing instead of trouble communicating. This leads me to believe I have at least isolated the issue (I hope). Could it all be from a faulty connection. I have a 5 pin connector not the standard 722.9 13 pin (I think the normal ones are 13) I did a lot of reading on the older 722.6 nd I heard they had a lot of problems with the connection. Is that smoothed out for the later transmission or did they never work the bugs out. Could it also be a broken connector plate?
08-08-2022, 06:52 PM
