Baby Scanner - Launch Creader Elite specific for MB - Bi-directional and more

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Dec 1, 2024 | 09:14 AM
  #126  
Quote: That's a good deal. KINGBOLEN is located in Hong Kong. Do you know if they ship from there or have a warehouse in the US?
They do. I bought my v1 from them, $99

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Dec 1, 2024 | 09:29 AM
  #127  
Quote: I've not used it for that, but it is much more capable than iCarsoft or BlueDriver. I would say that the LAUNCH scanner is as good as my Autel MaxiDAS DS808 scanner. If you get it through Amazon and don't like it, you can always return it.

(Currently, the LAUNCH scanner is $151 for Cyber Monday on Amazon.)
Quote: Or $109 at
https://kingbolentool.com/products/l...c-tool-scanner
Quote: That's a good deal. KINGBOLEN is located in Hong Kong. Do you know if they ship from there or have a warehouse in the US?
Quote: They do. I bought my v1 from them, $99
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...da622dcace.jpg
Woah that is a very good price, no brainer pretty much.
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Dec 1, 2024 | 01:14 PM
  #128  
You can get the Benz, BMW, Audi (BBA) version for the same price. From what I can tell, the BBA is the full versions of each brand without additional purchases (or at least I hope so).


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Dec 1, 2024 | 01:22 PM
  #129  
Only because is "Bi-Directional" means that it's just a garbage.

Any scanner is bi-directional even the ELM.

For receiving Fault Code date or Actual value, the scanner - any - should make a query. So send and receive, bi-directional.

Xentry is the cheapest solution and is the only one that has much more than any chinese spybots, besides Fault codes, Actual Values, Adaptations, schematics even with pictures, has conducted steps,
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Dec 1, 2024 | 02:18 PM
  #130  
fyi, Launch makes scanners and scanner software for many other brands. There's a pretty good chance the SnapOn scanner is in fact Launch based.

Xentry legally is extremely expensive, with a 5 digit annual subscription... the cheap Xentry stuff you can buy as on ebay etc is pirated and hacked to disable the Mercedes copy protection and requirements for database subscriptions.
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Dec 1, 2024 | 02:24 PM
  #131  
Has anyone tried enabling the High Performance Package? If so, what has been your experience?

Apparently it gets enabled both under the ECU (Variant Coding/Implicit Variant Coding) and CGW (Variant Coding/Global Variant Coding Item 108).
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Dec 1, 2024 | 02:30 PM
  #132  
Quote: Has anyone tried enabling the High Performance Package? If so, what has been your experience?

Apparently it gets enabled both under the ECU (Variant Coding/Implicit Variant Coding) and CGW (Variant Coding/Global Variant Coding Item 108).
I would expect some hardware changes to go along with the software option codes, but I dunno. What engine/package are these codes for ?
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Dec 1, 2024 | 02:33 PM
  #133  
Quote: I would expect some hardware changes to go along with the software option codes, but I dunno. What engine/package are these codes for ?
It's for an E250 Bluetec.
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Dec 1, 2024 | 02:53 PM
  #134  
Quote: fyi, Launch makes scanners and scanner software for many other brands. There's a pretty good chance the SnapOn scanner is in fact Launch based.

Xentry legally is extremely expensive, with a 5 digit annual subscription... the cheap Xentry stuff you can buy as on ebay etc is pirated and hacked to disable the Mercedes copy protection and requirements for database subscriptions.
Snapon is a legit company, has nothing to do with Launch

Launch just use their own data base stolen by their bots, saving configuration from users cars and from SSD sold by well-known sellers.

Launch use Xentry cracked files together with spybots

Any cracked Xentry, that's not already installed on SSD with deep spybots can do 1000% much more than Launch "online"
Online on Launch only stole your car configuration, nothing more

If you install a cracked Xentry, with active Windows Security, it will cost 50-80$

Anyway, a legit Xentry system is 2000$ and includes Bosch VCI Doip interface with certification for latest vehicles, for diagnosis.

I don't know in US, but here is 12€ one hour of legit Xentry. In US should be the same.

For personal use, any cracked version of Xentry has the same legitness like an official Launch.

For Ford or any non-premuim brand, the Launch system can be the first option. A bigger part of my business make money reviving ECU'S after Launch.








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Dec 1, 2024 | 03:06 PM
  #135  
Quote: It's for an E250 Bluetec.
you'll need to trade-up for a different engine.
A Turbo V6/8 will deliver performance you want

Read what @trigital says about corrupting your ECU with handheld scanner....

Ex. when you switch options it may mismatch config that become a proverbial "bricked" module.
JTAG becomes necessary on bricked circuits that can't boot.

Me like better soldering iron for performance enabling stable CAN bandwidth.
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Dec 1, 2024 | 03:34 PM
  #136  
you think Snapon themselves makes diagnostic electronics? hah, they make wrenches and such. The electronics diagnostic stuff they sell is all built by others and rebranded SnapOn
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Dec 1, 2024 | 03:37 PM
  #137  
Quote: you think Snapon themselves makes diagnostic electronics? hah, they make wrenches and such. The electronics diagnostic stuff they sell is all built by others and rebranded SnapOn
​​​​​​ Mercedes use Snapon and snap has all MB licenses

https://media.mbvans.co.uk/en-gb/releases/552


Also some SW from MB was snapon
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Dec 1, 2024 | 03:42 PM
  #138  
yeah, Snapon buys Mercedes Vario and Atego Chassis Cabs for their franchisee's tool delivery trucks. Whats that got to do with motor diagnostics ?

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Dec 1, 2024 | 03:52 PM
  #139  
Quote: yeah, Snapon buys Mercedes Vario and Atego Chassis Cabs for their franchisee's tool delivery trucks. Whats that got to do with motor diagnostics ?

They received from MB the official data base for their genetic scanner

All that can be found on MB B2B portal.

I work every absolutely day with damaged ECU's by Autel/Launch, I know what they delete and how they do spybot.

For me it's a good business, most of the ECUs can be reflashed with DTS ...but not all.

Of course using Launch is preferable for users without experience as it's easy to use, but exactly those user's will always want to use "advanced function" and not only because Launch has nothing to do with logic procedures but because the user has no knowledge they will trust only the meaningless instructions from Launch.and ..boooom!!!
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Dec 1, 2024 | 04:56 PM
  #140  
ECU EPROM getting corrupted....
To sum this up, is it safe to say :
Don't program the ECU options with Launch or handheld scanners?
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Dec 1, 2024 | 05:17 PM
  #141  
Quote: To sum this up, is it safe to say :
Don't program the ECU options with Launch or handheld scanners?
.....if you are not a very experienced user....but this kind of users use Xentry, so there is no any safety with launch/Autel
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Dec 1, 2024 | 07:31 PM
  #142  
Quote: .....if you are not a very experienced user....but this kind of users use Xentry, so there is no any safety with launch/Autel
Both Xentry and Launch are good tools with different scopes.

-- Xentry coverage is complete, but bulky and can be cryptic...

-- Handhelds are quick portable and simple but limited to features they support.

Both is best

+++ I finally managed to code my ECO: "Remember".
ECU Menu...
ECU Menu...: "Settings/Changeover"

there it is....
there it is.... "Oper. mode Start/Stop"

New setting is
Newly changed setting for "remember previous"

The code number "B28B6S2" seems to mean "Remember" in ECU terms


+++ Stock nagging defaults to "always ON regardless of previous" (B28B6S0)

(Stock default setting )
(Stock default setting... "always ON")
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Dec 2, 2024 | 11:23 AM
  #143  
FYI today I made the coding changes for the High Performance Package. This is on my E250 Bluetec. Car definitely seems quicker and more responsive; without question able to get to redline sooner.

For any who are interested....first make the change in CGW (variant coding/global variant coding). Then make the change in ECU (variant coding/implicit variant coding).

I'm curious to see what anyone else experiences making this mod.
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Dec 2, 2024 | 04:55 PM
  #144  
Quote: The code number "B28B6S2" seems to mean "Remember" in ECU terms
That is correct. I confirmed by looking at my car, which I had used the Mid City Engineering device to set my Start/Stop to Last Remembered. My code was B28B6S2. You do have to click on the alphanumeric code to drop down the other codes, ending in S0, S1, and S3.
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Dec 2, 2024 | 05:11 PM
  #145  
Quote: Both Xentry and Launch are good tools with different scopes.

-- Xentry coverage is complete, but bulky and can be cryptic...

-- Handhelds are quick portable and simple but limited to features they support.

Both is best

+++ I finally managed to code my ECO: "Remember".
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...1209d1a7e8.jpg
ECU Menu...: "Settings/Changeover"

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...0896666a4c.jpg
there it is.... "Oper. mode Start/Stop"

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...98bdd703ca.jpg
Newly changed setting for "remember previous"

The code number "B28B6S2" seems to mean "Remember" in ECU terms


+++ Stock nagging defaults to "always ON regardless of previous" (B28B6S0)

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...58fc5225be.jpg
(Stock default setting... "always ON")
Quote: That is correct. I confirmed by looking at my car, which I had used the Mid City Engineering device to set my Start/Stop to Last Remembered. My code was B28B6S2. You do have to click on the alphanumeric code to drop down the other codes, ending in S0, S1, and S3.
Awesome stuff : ) no errors right? Did a backup just in case?

Thanks for confirming : )
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Dec 2, 2024 | 06:01 PM
  #146  
Quote: Awesome stuff : ) no errors right? Did a backup just in case?

Thanks for confirming : )
ALWAYS back up before making any changes. I did not use the scanner to change my Start/Stop settings. Instead, I had paid $150 (plus shipping) for the Mid City Engineering device. I paid that twice for two cars. This was before I knew there were other options, like BenzNinja or the LAUNCH scanners.
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Dec 2, 2024 | 06:20 PM
  #147  
yeah all good after one day and many restarts.
The hard part was finding the path to get the menu and what code combination gave what ECO setting.

I think there is a use case for ECO to calibrate battery charge level.... meaning once a while (daily/weekly/monthly) it may be good to perform a ECO cycle at the light when engine is cold to prevent unnecessary heat soaks.

These cars definitely like goood chassis voltage.
< Go Team MS! >
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Dec 2, 2024 | 07:56 PM
  #148  
Quote: yeah all good after one day and many restarts.
The hard part was finding the path to get the menu and what code combination gave what ECO setting.

I think there is a use case for ECO to calibrate battery charge level.... meaning once a while (daily/weekly/monthly) it may be good to perform a ECO cycle at the light when engine is cold to prevent unnecessary heat soaks.

These cars definitely like goood chassis voltage.
< Go Team MS! >
Do you remember what path you used to get to Start/Stop? I kept on getting "Communication Error with ECU." But when changing from 3 to 5 clicks on turn signal blinkers, it was a straight shot and no errors.
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Dec 2, 2024 | 08:15 PM
  #149  
Quote: Do you remember what path you used to get to Start/Stop? I kept on getting "Communication Error with ECU." But when changing from 3 to 5 clicks on turn signal blinkers, it was a straight shot and no errors.
See post #142 above.
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Dec 2, 2024 | 08:21 PM
  #150  
Quote: Do you remember what path you used to get to Start/Stop? I kept on getting "Communication Error with ECU." But when changing from 3 to 5 clicks on turn signal blinkers, it was a straight shot and no errors.
Just in case, be certain the following:
1 - When the scanner says Ignition OFF -> key off
2 - When the scanner says Ignition ON -> key in position 2, engine OFF ; otherwise, the scanner cannot write to the ECU -> communication error.
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