Trying to order brakes ,sport package or not?
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Trying to order brakes ,sport package or not?
I bought 2010 E350, not 4matic unfortunately but it was mint condition car with only 89k miles for 9500$ so I bought it… trying to find brakes and rotors and they asking sport package or without. How do I tell the difference? It does have the C/S button but they all probably do. Is there anyway to find out? I check the VIN and it don’t say whether it is or not
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2008 E350 4Matic, 2011 E350 4matic
Post your vin. If you run it through the vin decoder, if it had the sports package, it would usually say so. Otherwise it sometimes mention whether you have a particular package or not. Are you doing the front or the rears? Usually people go with Akebono brake pads, no dust and Zimmerman rotors from FCPEuro, lifetime warranty on all their parts, most places don't do that on brake pads and rotors.
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2008 E350 4Matic, 2011 E350 4matic
https://www.lastvin.com/vin/RVqae2qM0pQ2MN6Op
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afaik, only differrence in the sport vs comfort/lux brakes on the V6 cars is drilled vs undrilled rotors, and they are interchangable.
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2014 - W212.065 - E400 ( M276.820, 3 liter Turbo) RWD not Hybrid
Diameter of front rotor is different on my E400 with 950 AMG sports package. 344mm I get instead of I think 322mm. I do not know what 951 option will give.
4 piston brembo instead of single floating piston caliper.
So my brake pad is different.
Use Brembo search function for reference, it may help
Brembo seems to indicate an E350 front rotor with drilled holes as sport and non sport has no holes
Both non sport and sport is 322mm rotor.
If 225kw engine
https://www.bremboparts.com/europe/e...59/000011388-1
If 200Kw engine
https://www.bremboparts.com/europe/e...56/000055880-1
if my E400, 245kw engine
https://www.bremboparts.com/europe/e...65/000059435-1
Check your rotor and caliper. Its seems 951 sports package is Brembo caliper ( I do not know the number of pistons ) but 322mm drilled rotor
I am sure if indeed yours is a Brembo caliper , it wont be a single floating piston design.
4 piston brembo instead of single floating piston caliper.
So my brake pad is different.
Use Brembo search function for reference, it may help
Brembo seems to indicate an E350 front rotor with drilled holes as sport and non sport has no holes
Both non sport and sport is 322mm rotor.
If 225kw engine
https://www.bremboparts.com/europe/e...59/000011388-1
If 200Kw engine
https://www.bremboparts.com/europe/e...56/000055880-1
if my E400, 245kw engine
https://www.bremboparts.com/europe/e...65/000059435-1
Check your rotor and caliper. Its seems 951 sports package is Brembo caliper ( I do not know the number of pistons ) but 322mm drilled rotor
I am sure if indeed yours is a Brembo caliper , it wont be a single floating piston design.
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that is the case for mine, which is a sport version. One of the best things I have done for the car was to replace the front drilled rotors for the luxury version which are not drilled, and the ackemibono whatever ceramic pads, both from fcpeuro. Did it a few years back and about 20k miles ago. Been perfect ever since.
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when I said V6, i probably should have qualified by non-turbo. The E350 up to 2016 share the same calibers , and pads, and the only brake difference is drilled vs non-drilled pads of identical geometry, and IMHO the non-drilled are better over all.
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You don't want 4matic anyway unless you need it. The 4matic E550's not only require more fluid service but uh, you have to pull the axle to access one of the engine mounts. Also note there is a 57mm deep rotor for the coupes, and a 68mm deep for the sedan. To the best of my knowledge the 68mm is the sedan fitment per my last brake job I did.
Ill make life easy. I have no particular attachment to Pagid, Brembo, or Zimmerman. They all make fantastic brake parts it's just about where they're made and how available they are. Pagid has been relocated to Chinese production for some of their applications, I still like them a lot. I generally use them on all my German cars usually just because they're less expensive and I've never gotten a bad set in 10 years. Brembo is Brembo, the UV coating leaves a WAY nicer finish than the primer-esque z-wear or pagid's coating. The coatings only affect the non braking surfaces but make disc removal much easier. Zimmerman isn't very expensive and came with the car. FCP has a really nice setup with Akebono pads. I run Akebonos on the AMG's with no drama or complaints. I 1000% recommend you ditch the metallic factory pads and swap to a quiet, low dust ceramic which is at least half as hard on rotors. You sacrifice initial cold bite on ONE stop in the morning but after that you will not notice and the pedal feels firmer which is nicer for most people.
Also make sure your rotors are high-carbon. It's just another type of cast-iron, one step above G3000. I haven't noticed a difference but apparently it withstands warpage better than plain cast iron rotors and thus run quieter if you do a lot of high-speed braking.
Ill make life easy. I have no particular attachment to Pagid, Brembo, or Zimmerman. They all make fantastic brake parts it's just about where they're made and how available they are. Pagid has been relocated to Chinese production for some of their applications, I still like them a lot. I generally use them on all my German cars usually just because they're less expensive and I've never gotten a bad set in 10 years. Brembo is Brembo, the UV coating leaves a WAY nicer finish than the primer-esque z-wear or pagid's coating. The coatings only affect the non braking surfaces but make disc removal much easier. Zimmerman isn't very expensive and came with the car. FCP has a really nice setup with Akebono pads. I run Akebonos on the AMG's with no drama or complaints. I 1000% recommend you ditch the metallic factory pads and swap to a quiet, low dust ceramic which is at least half as hard on rotors. You sacrifice initial cold bite on ONE stop in the morning but after that you will not notice and the pedal feels firmer which is nicer for most people.
Also make sure your rotors are high-carbon. It's just another type of cast-iron, one step above G3000. I haven't noticed a difference but apparently it withstands warpage better than plain cast iron rotors and thus run quieter if you do a lot of high-speed braking.
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I mean all the amgs are 4matic these days. It only really affects the engine mount service on the v8 afaik and the obvious differential fluid. All mercedes have so much gosh dang torque i dont notice the extra weight on the customer cars