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While all had that new (to me) car appeal, and certainly enjoyed all of them, every time I got back into mine to leave, I just couldn't do it. I knew I would regret it. And now I know why. It’s the real wood, easy to live with size, and honestly, not a bunch of tech in my face. It’s like the car talks to me and says “I will haunt you”.
I really do think in 20 years, I’ll see some kid who inherited his dad’s w212 sitting at a stoplight, looking nice and shiny and well loved, and say “man that was one of the best they ever built”.
My wife is happy with my decision too. As she says, why fix a $5k problem with a $50k solution? Not that I have a $5k problem, I don’t, but you get the idea… and she wants the Porsche!




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I use my E350 for comfortable, long-distance travelling (640 miles one-way), a range that the newer EVs can't pretend to do... yet. So, while I see an electric vehicle to by my next purchase, it will replace my wife's Hyundai Sonata for around town commuting.
The C320 is showing its age, but is still running around at 22-years. If it turns out the E350 will be my last car, that'll be fine with me.
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We love the XC90 but I really missed the W212 driving experience. I ended up buying a W204 for a daily driver. Not quite the same as the W212 but I'm having fun with it.
I think you made the right choice.
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While all had that new (to me) car appeal, and certainly enjoyed all of them, every time I got back into mine to leave, I just couldn't do it. I knew I would regret it. And now I know why. It’s the real wood, easy to live with size, and honestly, not a bunch of tech in my face. It’s like the car talks to me and says “I will haunt you”.
I really do think in 20 years, I’ll see some kid who inherited his dad’s w212 sitting at a stoplight, looking nice and shiny and well loved, and say “man that was one of the best they ever built”.
My wife is happy with my decision too. As she says, why fix a $5k problem with a $50k solution? Not that I have a $5k problem, I don’t, but you get the idea… and she wants the Porsche!
The M276 is rock solid. Most of the W212 platform is rock solid, as long as you aren't experiencing seat material issues or wood fading/cracking. Wood trim panels are replaceable and are not that expensive in the grand scheme of things.
As always with any German car, keep up with the maintenance and it can run for quite some time.
I love the 9Y0 Cayenne but it is a completely different car than a W212 E350. Sounds like you are in a good place with the E-Class.
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Fact is that setting CC at 90 or 100 mph is not for fuel savings.
The only thing I see in the future is electric for city drives, but I got my deposit for Lucid returned as those things are still way too expensive.
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likely never need another car.
Would have kept my 2009 CLK550 if a truck hadnt turned to soon in parklot and his wheel caught my wheel well and ripped my bumper of like a bandaid. Excellent interior and exterior with 100k miles. Needed a refresh on a lot of suspension parts and a top but other than that near perfect.
i miss the nimble feel of the CLK but appreciate the luxury and performance TT M278 of the E550 Cab.
need to add a tune at some point. Reading about others mods is killing me LOL.
So when I go to get back in my 145k miles 13 yo E350 I am thinking this is going to feel like a bucket of bolts compared to the brand new Porsche Taycan. Much to my surprise as a pulled away and came off the driveway onto the road it didn't feel all that different.
So I am thinking why would I pony up for a car that cost 10 times what mine is worth for something that doesn't feel that different? I look at it in the garage and it still looks good.
Only trouble is I saw another Taycan at the car show and the desire came back. Sigh...
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While all had that new (to me) car appeal, and certainly enjoyed all of them, every time I got back into mine to leave, I just couldn't do it. I knew I would regret it. And now I know why. It’s the real wood, easy to live with size, and honestly, not a bunch of tech in my face. It’s like the car talks to me and says “I will haunt you”.
I really do think in 20 years, I’ll see some kid who inherited his dad’s w212 sitting at a stoplight, looking nice and shiny and well loved, and say “man that was one of the best they ever built”.
My wife is happy with my decision too. As she says, why fix a $5k problem with a $50k solution? Not that I have a $5k problem, I don’t, but you get the idea… and she wants the Porsche!
The Easy Exit/Entry function died a couple of years ago, but I don't miss it. Yesterday the ESC Inoperative warning light came on and appears that is likely to require a long drive to dealership to get it checked out.
I have done quite a bit of research on replacement vehicles and have decided at my age and condition I'm going with an SUV. Also a car where I don't have to drive an hour just to get to dealership. Started using an Indy this year, but not sure would trust for some of these highly technical problems M-B's are prone to.
Liked the Buick Envision, but it is made in China and primarily for Chinese market. Who knows what future holds for replacement parts for it and even if the make will continue in US. Most likely contenders right now are Nissan Rogue (wife has 2014 and it has been very good) or Hyundai Tucson. Then you get into whether to go for Hybrid or not. EV is out of the question.
Main factor right now is the high cost of cars and the extra charge dealers put on them.
But right now, I agree with your wife about the $5,000 to fix now vs. $35-40,000 (for me) solution. But then what will fail next and how difficult to get it repaired. Add in where might I be when it fails and will the car be undrivable.





CR has rated M-B cars of past few years very lowly. Of 12 M-B's they currently review, they do not recommend any due to reliability and other issues. When I got my 2010, it was one of most highly rated "luxury" cars they reviewed and highly recommended by CR, but E Class has gone downhill since then. The GLE currently has a very low rating and owner satisfaction score.
Her next mission is to carry our daughter through 4 years of College, starting this summer.




CR has rated M-B cars of past few years very lowly. Of 12 M-B's they currently review, they do not recommend any due to reliability and other issues. When I got my 2010, it was one of most highly rated "luxury" cars they reviewed and highly recommended by CR, but E Class has gone downhill since then. The GLE currently has a very low rating and owner satisfaction score.
Read the 166 sections and you will not find systemic major issues affecting the reliable V6 powertrains. The V8 in the 550 models is not aging well with scored cylinders and other defects.
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Her next mission is to carry our daughter through 4 years of College, starting this summer.




We had 1984 Volvo as family car for long years. till I bought new 1998 ML320.
I had other brand to drive in business, so new MB was designated "church car" and I was waiting for any excuse to junk Volvo who was totaled 3 times already.
The old Volvo gave me some hard time reaching 100k miles, what was some time before buying new MB, but once I had new MB, the Volvo would run perfectly for few years.
3 years later, when schools runs end I junked perfectly running Volvo with 170k miles as I had too many cars. Still got some good cash selling the hood and wheels.




I think the previous model GLS550 will go down the same path too, a classic MB squared up SUV.
I can tell you without any doubt, I have a new MB product as well, a 2020 GLS450, and don’t get me wrong it is quite nice and we have thoroughly enjoyed it over the last 3 years and 60k miles. But there is no comparison to my 9 year old E350 when it comes to feeling like you’re driving a full-on Mercedes Benz. None. There is 0% sense of MB heritage in this new GLS, from seat position to cruising around. There is no “glide” to it.
I also appreciate that it’s 7 gears instead of 9. So many gears now in these automatics, it gets a little annoying once the fluid starts to wear in, constantly changing gears and not being able to figure out pressure points on the gas peddle to keep it from down shifting.
And I do enjoy the naturally aspirated V6 engine. Granted I do love a turbo! But this engine is excellent all on its own. Especially when you’ve learned where those shift points are for the transmission. I can drive mine with a sense true effortlessness, smooth acceleration and gliding stops. I can’t do that in the GLS at all. In fact where we all hit the eco button to turn off start/stop by instinct now, I put the GLS transmission into eco drive mode in the GLS to keep it from shifting it’s brains out!
love this w212! And may it long live! I hope one day to see MB return to more angular designs with sharp edges and character lines.
I think the previous model GLS550 will go down the same path too, a classic MB squared up SUV.
I can tell you without any doubt, I have a new MB product as well, a 2020 GLS450, and don’t get me wrong it is quite nice and we have thoroughly enjoyed it over the last 3 years and 60k miles. But there is no comparison to my 9 year old E350 when it comes to feeling like you’re driving a full-on Mercedes Benz. None. There is 0% sense of MB heritage in this new GLS, from seat position to cruising around. There is no “glide” to it.
I also appreciate that it’s 7 gears instead of 9. So many gears now in these automatics, it gets a little annoying once the fluid starts to wear in, constantly changing gears and not being able to figure out pressure points on the gas peddle to keep it from down shifting.
And I do enjoy the naturally aspirated V6 engine. Granted I do love a turbo! But this engine is excellent all on its own. Especially when you’ve learned where those shift points are for the transmission. I can drive mine with a sense true effortlessness, smooth acceleration and gliding stops. I can’t do that in the GLS at all. In fact where we all hit the eco button to turn off start/stop by instinct now, I put the GLS transmission into eco drive mode in the GLS to keep it from shifting it’s brains out!
love this w212! And may it long live! I hope one day to see MB return to more angular designs with sharp edges and character lines.




