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Old 02-28-2024, 06:59 PM
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UPDATE: My scanner came with software ver 50.16. Today I connected the device to wifi and updated all the software. There were 8 modules software updates totally, including the MB (which quite large...). The latest MB software ver is v50.26. After the update, the User Interface looks totally different (from the original), and very similar to the pictures posted here and youtube's. After the update, I was able to change the setting exactly like your description!!. the whole procedure took 2 minutes!!. So it was the old software version that was not able to communicate with the car... newest version fixed all that!!
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Old 02-28-2024, 08:23 PM
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Old 02-28-2024, 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Bruce Hubbard
if you have a SDS, it is too easy job... anyway, with this scanner, after updated, I was able to change the setting, turned off the Eco on/off too.
Old 02-29-2024, 03:10 AM
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Great that it works! I wasn't expecting the difference between v50.16 and v50.26 to be that significant. So anyone buying this (powerful!) tool, make sure to update the software before using it!
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Originally Posted by nguyenphananh
Just received the Launch device from amazon. The User Interface is different from the youtube video... anyway, I still figured out. When I clicked on the write coding (from active start/stop to no active), it said code writing "unsuccessful". Not sure what I did wrong. Questions: do I need to register the device before using? or do I need to update software 1st before using? I think the firmware right now is V15.16.....
My Launch Creader Elite 2.0 Benz arrived today. I was able to update all the software, including the MB/Maybach software to version v50.26 without problem. But I'm not sure I registered the device, unless it happened while the updates installed. The Quick Start guide does not mention any step for registering the reader. I looked for a website on my desktop PC but couldn't find anything. Any ideas?

Anyway, I was able to find the the ECM module, changed active start/stop to "no active." But when I clicked on the write coding (from active start/stop to no active), it said code writing "unsuccessful". Is there a youtube demo on how to do this somewhere?

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Old 03-02-2024, 03:27 AM
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My scanner came original with software ver50.16, and I had the same issue with "writing unsuccessful". After updated, it went through without issue. I used Diagnostic, then automatic detected the car...etc... Under ECM, variant setting...
Also I didnt need to register the device.
P.S. One more thing.. I connected the device online (wifi) during the coding, dont know if that made any different....
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It is not always under ECM to delete Start Stop.
I believe it was under Central Gateway N93. Go and check there.
I forgot the details as I was using the Autel some years ago and on older software, and it was not as easy and elegant as the Baby Launch .
Since my Start Stop been gone anyway , I never try it with the Baby Launch when I first got it.

I never register it too, no request by the scanner.
Since we are zero update fee forever, they dont care about registration. They can track the device serial number anyway


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I do not know what is the ACTUAL meaning of 072, why also there is ECO startstop there ... LOL.
076 is what I choose to kill ECO.


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I used the Mid City Engineering OBD plug-in to disable my ECO Start/Stop. It allows you to turn Start/Stop on or off and remembers the last setting. However, the dongle they send is more than the LAUNCH Creader Elite 2.0 BENZ. Since I never plan to use Start/Stop again, I wish I had known that I could do this with either my Autel or the Creader scanner. Not sure it would make a difference when selling or trading the car.
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So does this just enable the "save the last setting" and so I can still freely turn it on and off without plugging in the programming device?
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So does this just enable the "save the last setting" and so I can still freely turn it on and off without plugging in the programming device?
yes (with the Mid City Engineering tool)
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I don’t know how pertinent it may be to the OP, because my main reason for posting is not that the SL63(R232) has a split start button, and that the bottom half of the button is an auto start disable function.
The purpose of my post is to address the combination of autostart, and turbocharging features.
The basics of turbocharging are the proper care and feeding of a turbocharger.
A couple of the basics are, allow turbocharger to get up to speed and temperature, while at idle, or very low rpm’s.
Also, allow turbocharger to spin down at idle preferably, before shutting down engine.
This allows for better lubricating and longer turbo life.
In my estimation, the autostart feature conflicts with these principles.
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I don’t know how pertinent it may be to the OP, because my main reason for posting is not that the SL63(R232) has a split start button, and that the bottom half of the button is an auto start disable function.
The purpose of my post is to address the combination of autostart, and turbocharging features.
The basics of turbocharging are the proper care and feeding of a turbocharger.
A couple of the basics are, allow turbocharger to get up to speed and temperature, while at idle, or very low rpm’s.
Also, allow turbocharger to spin down at idle preferably, before shutting down engine.
This allows for better lubricating and longer turbo life.
In my estimation, the autostart feature conflicts with these principles.
Excellent points. Even though the Intercooler uses a separate cooling circuit with its own coolant pump, that does not mean the oil continues to circulate to the turbo. On non-turbo cars (how many of those are left?), it may not be as critical to keep the engine idling. But your point about turbo cars is dead on! Of course, we all know that the Start/Stop feature (just like the oil pump solenoid) is only intended for government mandates and marketing "great fuel economy." Those "features" have NOTHING to do with the lifespan, performance, or reliability of the engines or transmissions.
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Not only bad for hot turbos a start stop is..............

Start Stop system if you guys watch MAHLE tech and Lake Speed Junior video, their R & D has seen more crankshaft damage from Start Stop system over long term.
Its a long video, I forgot which minute speak of START STOP, but very short discussion only on the start stop.

Crankshaft is a heavy component in fact the heaviest spinning component in an engine, and is floating on oil for its survival. Engine OFF means the crankshaft is touching or resting on metal bearing.
So overly frequent engine KILL-RUN/KILL-RUN in a start stop system is not doing the crankshaft any good.

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So far:
Start-stop disabled
Appropriate oil weight for climate/usage
Oil pump solenoid modification
Reasonable warm up/cool down routine

--> LONGER engine life, $$$ in savings long term
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I hate to sound like a dunce, but I cannot get my Launch Creader Elite 2.0 Benz to

1) find the correct menu to enter from the Home screen
2) find the correct module to enter, then
3) find the auto start/stop menu.
4) What next, etc.

I thought I had found everything (previous post #31), but cannot navigate back to the same page.

Can someone please post a step-by-step instruction here or in PM to me? Thanks.

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Old 03-09-2024, 01:24 PM
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Check:
Control Units ->
Drive ->
Engine (ME) ->
Variant coding ->
Engine Start/Stop
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I was able to disable auto start/stop earlier this week on my G550 using my Topdon AD900BT OBDII scanner.
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Originally Posted by Jeedie
Check:
Control Units ->
Drive ->
Engine (ME) ->
Variant coding ->
Engine Start/Stop
OK, I was able to disable it, but not using the exact steps noted. I took some pictures and will post them later.
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Was it in the Engine Control (ME) module or the Instrument Cluster (IC) module?
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Originally Posted by JettaRed
Was it in the Engine Control (ME) module or the Instrument Cluster (IC) module?
In the ECM (Engine Control) module. Please see this dedicated thread with the step-by-step procedure...

https://mbworld.org/forums/e-class-w...ii-reader.html

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