white_raven0

It's on the web now. Still can't build but option prices are up.
http://www.mbusa.com/mercedes/vehicl...-E/model-E300W


E300 RWD starts at 52,150, so 53k with delivery cost.


P1 is 3,400, but if you want all the tech (cool driver assist tech that you ve seen on reviews), you ll need to opt for P3, which is 10,250. LED instrument cluster appears to be extra 1,000. Sport wheel package is 650. I assume standard is MB Tex so nappa leather is probably 1,200 extra.


So if you get a car with leather, sport wheel and P3, that's about 66k. I am sure there are options that I missed. Anyways, this is a pretty damn expensive 4-banger...

white_raven0

Just read this:
http://mashable.com/2016/06/16/2017-.../#1nsq2lRhBOqC


OK, assuming 4matic, and if you add the packages in my above post, then add metallic paint, you are already pretty much at 70k... to get to this test car, which also probably has better seats (cooled and massaged?) and more expensive interior trim, you are going 70+k.


Base Model S has superior tech and VASTLY superior driving dynamics compared to this 4-banger at an effectively similar price range... I can actually browse my phone and check instagram clicking likes etc while on my commute! I just don't see why I would ever buy this E vs Model S...


<60k, maybe; getting close to 70k, no way. I guess maybe there will be big discounts not long after release?

BlankProc

Bottom line is you're out the door signing for a 60k four banger that honestly is very hard to discern from a C class, unless you're a Benz fan like us.

The interior's nice, but man Benz needs to get it together.

The current C has a nice exterior, and an awful interior instrument cluster and nav. Worthless touch pad and unattractive iPad screen.

The new E has a nice but C-like exterior, and an awesome dash/instrument screen.

I'm hopeful that they will remedy both in the C and E refresh. Hopefully they will put the nicer E-style dash screen in the C, and hopefully they will make the E look a little bit more distinctive on the outside.

mac55

Good points. But aren't you comparing a Base Model S with a fully loaded W213 and saying they are "effectively similar price"? I'm hoping we'll eventually be able to order DrivePilot separate from the "full monty" P3 package.

joshg1001

one of the latest ordering guides said they would have a p3 without HUD, and now it combines HUD. I hope that changes.

Germancar1

[QUOTE=white_raven0;6835923]Just read this:
http://mashable.com/2016/06/16/2017-.../#1nsq2lRhBOqC


OK, assuming 4matic, and if you add the packages in my above post, then add metallic paint, you are already pretty much at 70k... to get to this test car, which also probably has better seats (cooled and massaged?) and more expensive interior trim, you are going 70+k.


Base Model S has superior tech and VASTLY superior driving dynamics compared to this 4-banger at an effectively similar price range... I can actually browse my phone and check instagram clicking likes etc while on my commute! I just don't see why I would ever buy this E vs Model S...


The Tesla has **** poor fit and finish and having to stop and wait for a charge? NO thanks.


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scottmcdaniel1

P03 includes HUD. However, major earthquake in China few months ago led to loss of 50% of HUD availability. They will be reserved for S-Class and the like until production of them catch up. That being said, option code will be Q03, which is essentially P03 minus HUD with the credit to reflect.


12.3" instrument cluster is $1,000 option charge and car MUST be equipped with P03 (or Q03) in order to get that screen.


Just got back from training and I will tell you that this car is WAY technologically advanced relative the rest of MB lines. Park Pilot works amazing (yes, you need cars or walls or bushes to bounce signal out of), but car will back into spot, pull forward into spot, parallel park, exit parking spots, etc. Biggest thing is that you need do NOTHING, not even shift from R to D because you get to close to a vehicle.


Exterior styling on the models are beginning to look so similar due to trying to have the lowest coefficient of drag possible. Europeans tested model was 0.23, one of the lowest of any vehicle, period. US spec cars expected to be only slightly higher because of bigger wheels.


For the price point, I really feel that it will be solid and some sales programs have been released. No LAP, but financing for 2.99% to 72 months and excellent residuals/rates considering new model.


Wholesale releases to dealers begin week of June 20 with availability for retail to begin shortly thereafter stretching into early July.

joshg1001

Thanks Scott, I thought i remembered seeing something about the HUD being separate from P03.

what still frustrates me is that the mb-tex top dash stitching is still only reserved for the luxury model. Doesn't make sense when the C class Sport package includes it. Now the more expensive brother looks inferior.

aceman

I am having a hard time with paying 70K for a well optioned 4 cylinder...

donlind

3 days ago, mine was at the dock/port awaiting a ship.
I assume it is now on the water.

QO3 (who needs the HUD anyway at $1100.? I wear polarized sun glasses all the time, can't even see it. It's all in the display anyway).

Selenite Grey/Black MTec

Instrument screen display

Sport wheel package.

Drove demo the other day. At my age, I'm ready for all the safety gadgets.

terp97

http://www.autonews.com/article/2016...rcedes-e-class

CARMEL, Calif. — A certification slowdown means Mercedes-Benz dealers will have to wait longer than expected to sell the redesigned 2017 E-class sedan.

In May, Mercedes-Benz USA CEO Dietmar Exler said the 2017 E300 models would be on sale in June. But last week Exler told Automotive News that the vehicles are still awaiting regulatory approvals.

“We’re pushing and working very hard with the authorities to get certification. The cars are on U.S. soil,” Exler said at a press event here. “We hope we get certification quickly. The process is a little bit more difficult to predict than it was in the past. But feedback is good, and, hopefully, it will go fast.”

Germancar1

WOW, everyone is having problems with certifications. That means that once this car is certified dealers will literally get hundreds of them at once, if they're still being shipped over and then held at port.

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threeMBs

Somehow I think that over 4,000 W212 units (from E250 to E63) still on dealer lots is part of a problem. Even with incentives, they still have some trouble moving them.

xgman

Same problem with my c350e order. sitting in Baltimore since May waiting for certifications etc.. (eta mid July) ugg..

Germancar1

That definitely plays a role also.

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Wolfgang

Looks like the E cleared certification and may arrive at the dealers starting today.

Mercedes cleared to sell 2017 E class in U.S.
The redesigned 2017 E-class sedan is on its way to U.S. dealerships after Mercedes-Benz received its final necessary certification approvals earlier this week. Source: Automotive News

donlind

I could not find anything on Automotive News to back this up. Got an link?

mcbc220

I'm betting 20k off any E350s left on the lot by September

donlind

found it

MDMercedesGuy

The configurator is working today. Minor bugs in it but works pretty well.

joshg1001

am I crazy, or did the P03 package go up by $1000 or so. Its now at 11,250 but I could have sworn it started with a 10

MDMercedesGuy

I think you are spot on - I would have sworn it was $10,250 before.

donlind

I've seen a few print outs of my ordered car. The P3 price moved around a bit but the total always ended up the same. They had listed price separately for a few items.

bmeck2003

Test drove a 2017 demo with P1 yesterday morning. As we were returning to the dealer, two trailers with 2017 E class cars pulled up and started to unload.

The cars were black, white, silver, Selenite gray and I think the new color - a very dark green metallic that looked almost black. I could not see it up close as it was on the upper level of the trailer.

The cars that were unloaded all had the P1 package and the list prices ranged from about $58,500 to about $62,750

I had serious concerns about a $60,000+ car with a 4 cylinder engine, but was pleasantly surprised when I drove it. I tried several of the driving modes and think I could easily live with this car.

I liked it much better than the 2016 E350 loaner I had last week while my coupe was being serviced.

I am now seriously considering a new 2017 E to replace my aging Lexus LS460.

While I love my Lexus, it will be 8 years old in August and my extended warranty has run out. A new LS460 equipped the same as mine lists for $84,000 and the model will finally be replaced either later this year or next year at the latest. The current LS body was introduced for 2007, so I do not want to buy a new expensive car whose looks will be outdated within a year or so.

Finally, I agree with the comments about the new E looking like the C. The white demo I drove was parked directly next to a white C-class. As I walked around both of them and compared them closely, they do look almost the same. However, the interiors are very different. I am 6' 4" tall and am not at all comfortable in the C, but fit well in the E.

I hope my comments help answer some of the questions raised in this post.

PigPen

I went in to one of the local dealers tonight to purchase a 2017 E-Class. I’ve always thought the 2016 was too angular for my taste. Many cars are migrating to the 4 cylinders so my assumption is I wouldn’t notice the difference. I’m not much of a speed demon and at the price point wasn’t a driving factor.

However, after driving the ‘17 and the ‘16 I ended up getting the 2016 E Class. In my admittedly novice opinion, the difference in acceleration and the “sturdiness” of the ‘16 were very noticeably different. I really like the ‘16, even if the body style is outdated already. I should add the caveat that I don’t play around with driving modes nor should my opinion be considered anything more than the experience of a rank novice at this stuff.