beejAMG

Sorry BOSS. Just trying to have a lil laugh...at your expense. Later "grocery-getter".

petee1997

Truth be told, except for the S class and SL, MB is not a luxury car but rather a premium car in some models and a very ordinary car in the small and compact models. No one looks twice at any MB. With close to 350K sales per year in the US, it's become quite mundane.

I don't say that to diminish the brand as a fine automobile but rather to point out that there is no prestige in owning one.

beejAMG

You must be fun at parties.
And this guy wonders why for the last 8yrs that hes been a member of this forum, he got thanked once. Keep it up mate youre on the right track here.

pamiboy

Nice to see both of you shake hands finally.

petee1997

Sorry if I struck a nerve with my comment but I can see your point of view. The prices you pay for these cars "Down Unda" makes it feel like you bought a luxury car but unfortunately that does not make it so.

vic viper

So according to you a brand has to be rare and over priced to qualify as a luxury car?

I beg to differ.

petee1997

No, exotic or luxurious. Certainly not a brand that sells 1.3 million copies a year.

c4004matic

In fact, that is the definition of luxury which is diametrically opposite to value. Again value and luxury are antonyms, if it isnt rare and available to anyone its not a "luxury". A better adjective is well equipped.

shortspark

Here is what someone posted about a "luxury vehicle" on Wikipedia:

"Luxury vehicle is a marketing term for a vehicle that provides luxury — pleasant or desirable features beyond strict necessity — at increased expense (see luxury goods).
The term suggests a vehicle with higher quality equipment, better performance, more precise construction, comfort, higher design, technologically innovative modern, or features that convey an image, brand, status, or prestige, or any other 'discretionary' feature or combination of them. The term is also broad, highly variable and relative. It is a perceptual, conditional and subjective attribute that may be comprehended differently by different people; "What is a luxury car to some... may be 'ordinary' to others."

I don't know what the rules are for others but that seems to make sense to me.

c4004matic

a condition or situation of great comfort, ease, and wealth

petee1997

So, am I right or wrong???


I'll concede that just maybe I am both, depending on the model.



PS Now that I have had fun annoying everyone on this thread, it's time for me to get off before someone thanks me.

beejAMG

Oh the hypocricy. Why drive an MB then? If you can buy yourself 2 hyundais for the price of one MB? Let me guess. Driving an MB makes you feel better, safer and all that? Isnt that the mere definition of luxury? Trust me, wait another 8yrs and maybe, just maybe youll get your 2nd "thanks". Now go get yourself a nice luxurious hyundai...oh im sorry, its genesis not hyundai. For £*€¥ sake.

Now that weve established the definition of "luxury"...
Anyone mind looking up the definition of a "douchebag" or should we all settle for douchebag=pete1997?

petee1997

I'll answer the question why I drive an MB. Simply force of habit. My wife and I have had 22 of them since 1983 plus I have two 18 models on order an E43 and an E400. Second reason, one of my neighbors is my dealer. Third I never said I did not like MB, simply that they were a premium car in most models, not a luxury car.

As far as being a douche bag, that could be correct.

PS Obviously you are upset by my opinion and it appears you don't like the term "grocery getter". Trust me, the feeling will pass when you driven them for 30 years or so. They actually get pretty ordinary.

Streamliner

I drive MB cars because I feel that the E Class and above cars are luxurious, well engineered, well built and last, but not least, I believe that they are the safest cars on the planet. I'll also admit that I like the image they convey, which is that the owner is smart. I live in a town where Rolls-Royces, Bentleys and Ferraris are commonplace and I never feel envious of those drivers. Well, maybe when I see a new RR Dawn.

beejAMG

Ive been driving MBs for almost 2 decades now.
Seems like you and "grocery getter" have something in common. You must be really rich too. Lol

Well at least we agree that youre a douche bag.

Cao Black

So, by your reasoning, Tudor, which sells about 150,000 watches per year, must be more luxurious than Rolex, which sell 4 or 5 times that many.
Doesn't work that way.

Streamliner

Watches. The one thing I have never understood. Why any guy would wear a gaudy watch the size of a dinner plate is beyond me. I can afford most any watch on the planet and I wear a ten year old Seiko. Of course, that's when Im not wearing one of my Swatch watches.

petee1997

"Really rich" of course not, otherwise I would not be driving the "taxi of Europe". I am happy that you have learned that "douchebag" is actually two words.

Airmousam

petee1997

Try Piaget, Patek Philippe. Rolex is the MB of watches.

NYC-Style

Yeah...but it's a Hyundai

ua549

Consumer Reports and their subscribers value old fashioned family oriented, low performing, inexpensive vehicles. Brady bunch comes to mind. Not modern, up to the minute, high tech families.

beejAMG

The more you post, the more you prove your uselessness in this forum.

makris0000

Cao Black

That's the point. A $25,000 Piaget must not be a luxury watch because it sells more units and is less expensive than the Richard Mille $800,000 piece worn by Rafael Nadal (while playing tennis).
What defines luxury? Genesis might be a nice car, but it has achieved neither taxi status nor luxury status yet. I'll keep my plain old Mercedes thank you very much.