a rest!
Best Value in mid-sized luxury
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 1,914
Likes: 261
From: Ontario,Canada
...24 GLE53
Truth be told, except for the S class and SL, MB is not a luxury car but rather a premium car in some models and a very ordinary car in the small and compact models. No one looks twice at any MB. With close to 350K sales per year in the US, it's become quite mundane.
I don't say that to diminish the brand as a fine automobile but rather to point out that there is no prestige in owning one.
I don't say that to diminish the brand as a fine automobile but rather to point out that there is no prestige in owning one.
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 3,133
Likes: 134
From: Down Unda
W204 C63 AMG, W212 E250 CGI, C207 E250 CGI
Truth be told, except for the S class and SL, MB is not a luxury car but rather a premium car in some models and a very ordinary car in the small and compact models. No one looks twice at any MB. With close to 350K sales per year in the US, it's become quite mundane.
I don't say that to diminish the brand as a fine automobile but rather to point out that there is no prestige in owning one.
I don't say that to diminish the brand as a fine automobile but rather to point out that there is no prestige in owning one.
You must be fun at parties.
And this guy wonders why for the last 8yrs that hes been a member of this forum, he got thanked once. Keep it up mate youre on the right track here.
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 1,914
Likes: 261
From: Ontario,Canada
...24 GLE53
Sorry if I struck a nerve with my comment but I can see your point of view. The prices you pay for these cars "Down Unda" makes it feel like you bought a luxury car but unfortunately that does not make it so.
Last edited by petee1997; Mar 25, 2017 at 11:55 AM.
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 3,135
Likes: 272
From: Sweden
S213
So according to you a brand has to be rare and over priced to qualify as a luxury car?
I beg to differ.
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Oct 2014
Posts: 4,524
Likes: 1,181
From: WI
17 E43; 21 GLS580
In fact, that is the definition of luxury which is diametrically opposite to value. Again value and luxury are antonyms, if it isnt rare and available to anyone its not a "luxury". A better adjective is well equipped.
Last edited by c4004matic; Mar 25, 2017 at 06:54 PM.
MB World Stories
The Best of Mercedes & AMG
6 Mercedes Models That Did NOT Age Well (But Are Somehow Still Cool)
Verdad Gallardo
Manual Mercedes? 6 Times Sindelfingen Let Drivers Have All The Fun
Verdad Gallardo
Mercedes SLR McLaren 722 S Is Extremely Rare Example Modified by McLaren
Verdad Gallardo
8 Classic Boxy Mercedes Designs That Have Aged Like Fine Wine
Verdad Gallardo
Flawlessly Restored Mercedes 190E Evo II Heads to Auction
Verdad Gallardo
Electric Mercedes C-Class Unveiled: 11 Things You Need to Know
Verdad Gallardo
Mercedes EQS Gets A Major Update: Everything You Need to Know
Verdad Gallardo
5 Underrated Mercedes-Benz Models That Don't Get the Love They Deserve
Verdad Gallardo
Mercedes 300D Has Pushed Well Past 1 Million Miles and It Ain't Stopping
Verdad Gallardo
Super Member
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 619
Likes: 34
From: East part of Texas
2017 CLS550
Here is what someone posted about a "luxury vehicle" on Wikipedia:
"Luxury vehicle is a marketing term for a vehicle that provides luxury — pleasant or desirable features beyond strict necessity — at increased expense (see luxury goods).
The term suggests a vehicle with higher quality equipment, better performance, more precise construction, comfort, higher design, technologically innovative modern, or features that convey an image, brand, status, or prestige, or any other 'discretionary' feature or combination of them. The term is also broad, highly variable and relative. It is a perceptual, conditional and subjective attribute that may be comprehended differently by different people; "What is a luxury car to some... may be 'ordinary' to others."
I don't know what the rules are for others but that seems to make sense to me.
"Luxury vehicle is a marketing term for a vehicle that provides luxury — pleasant or desirable features beyond strict necessity — at increased expense (see luxury goods).
The term suggests a vehicle with higher quality equipment, better performance, more precise construction, comfort, higher design, technologically innovative modern, or features that convey an image, brand, status, or prestige, or any other 'discretionary' feature or combination of them. The term is also broad, highly variable and relative. It is a perceptual, conditional and subjective attribute that may be comprehended differently by different people; "What is a luxury car to some... may be 'ordinary' to others."
I don't know what the rules are for others but that seems to make sense to me.
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Oct 2014
Posts: 4,524
Likes: 1,181
From: WI
17 E43; 21 GLS580
From Websters
a condition or situation of great comfort, ease, and wealth
: something that is expensive and not necessary: something that is helpful or welcome and that is not usually or always available
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 1,914
Likes: 261
From: Ontario,Canada
...24 GLE53
So, am I right or wrong???
I'll concede that just maybe I am both, depending on the model.
PS Now that I have had fun annoying everyone on this thread, it's time for me to get off before someone thanks me.
I'll concede that just maybe I am both, depending on the model.
PS Now that I have had fun annoying everyone on this thread, it's time for me to get off before someone thanks me.
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 3,133
Likes: 134
From: Down Unda
W204 C63 AMG, W212 E250 CGI, C207 E250 CGI
Anyone mind looking up the definition of a "douchebag" or should we all settle for douchebag=pete1997?
Last edited by beejAMG; Mar 26, 2017 at 04:13 PM.
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 1,914
Likes: 261
From: Ontario,Canada
...24 GLE53
I'll answer the question why I drive an MB. Simply force of habit. My wife and I have had 22 of them since 1983 plus I have two 18 models on order an E43 and an E400. Second reason, one of my neighbors is my dealer. Third I never said I did not like MB, simply that they were a premium car in most models, not a luxury car.
As far as being a douche bag, that could be correct.
PS Obviously you are upset by my opinion and it appears you don't like the term "grocery getter". Trust me, the feeling will pass when you driven them for 30 years or so. They actually get pretty ordinary.
As far as being a douche bag, that could be correct.
PS Obviously you are upset by my opinion and it appears you don't like the term "grocery getter". Trust me, the feeling will pass when you driven them for 30 years or so. They actually get pretty ordinary.
Last edited by petee1997; Mar 26, 2017 at 08:36 PM.
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 8,168
Likes: 4,387
From: Corona Del Mar, CA
2019 SL450, 2019 E450 Luxury Trim Wagon, 2024 BMW I7 xDrive60
I drive MB cars because I feel that the E Class and above cars are luxurious, well engineered, well built and last, but not least, I believe that they are the safest cars on the planet. I'll also admit that I like the image they convey, which is that the owner is smart. I live in a town where Rolls-Royces, Bentleys and Ferraris are commonplace and I never feel envious of those drivers. Well, maybe when I see a new RR Dawn.
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 3,133
Likes: 134
From: Down Unda
W204 C63 AMG, W212 E250 CGI, C207 E250 CGI
I'll answer the question why I drive an MB. Simply force of habit. My wife and I have had 22 of them since 1983 plus I have two 18 models on order an E43 and an E400. Second reason, one of my neighbors is my dealer. Third I never said I did not like MB, simply that they were a premium car in most models, not a luxury car.
As far as being a douche bag, that could be correct.
PS Obviously you are upset by my opinion and it appears you don't like the term "grocery getter". Trust me, the feeling will pass when you driven them for 30 years or so. They actually get pretty ordinary.
As far as being a douche bag, that could be correct.
PS Obviously you are upset by my opinion and it appears you don't like the term "grocery getter". Trust me, the feeling will pass when you driven them for 30 years or so. They actually get pretty ordinary.
Seems like you and "grocery getter" have something in common. You must be really rich too. Lol
Well at least we agree that youre a douche bag.
Super Member
Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 743
Likes: 175
From: NorCal
2015 ML350+2025 E350
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 8,168
Likes: 4,387
From: Corona Del Mar, CA
2019 SL450, 2019 E450 Luxury Trim Wagon, 2024 BMW I7 xDrive60
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 1,914
Likes: 261
From: Ontario,Canada
...24 GLE53
"Really rich" of course not, otherwise I would not be driving the "taxi of Europe". I am happy that you have learned that "douchebag" is actually two words.
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 1,914
Likes: 261
From: Ontario,Canada
...24 GLE53
Senior Member
Joined: Apr 2014
Posts: 332
Likes: 10
From: Las Vegas NV
Corvette/2017 E-300
Just got an email from Consumer Reports re: Best Value based on their surveys. The respondents ranked the Genesis G80 as Best Value in mid-size luxury cars. It compared very favorably to competitors, but at a much lower cost to purchase and to own.
This is not CR's opinion, but that of the people in the survey.
Just providing this as food for thought.
This is not CR's opinion, but that of the people in the survey.
Just providing this as food for thought.
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 3,133
Likes: 134
From: Down Unda
W204 C63 AMG, W212 E250 CGI, C207 E250 CGI
Super Member
Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 743
Likes: 175
From: NorCal
2015 ML350+2025 E350
That's the point. A $25,000 Piaget must not be a luxury watch because it sells more units and is less expensive than the Richard Mille $800,000 piece worn by Rafael Nadal (while playing tennis).
What defines luxury? Genesis might be a nice car, but it has achieved neither taxi status nor luxury status yet. I'll keep my plain old Mercedes thank you very much.
What defines luxury? Genesis might be a nice car, but it has achieved neither taxi status nor luxury status yet. I'll keep my plain old Mercedes thank you very much.
Last edited by Cao Black; Mar 28, 2017 at 12:51 AM.
