E43 Tune/ performance mods
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E43 Tune/ performance mods
Hi guys,
I just bought a new E43 AMG and want to chip the ECU to increase original HP and Torque, its not slow, but I could use some more power.
Also, if there's any other possible performance mods I can do to the car, please let me know
thank you
I just bought a new E43 AMG and want to chip the ECU to increase original HP and Torque, its not slow, but I could use some more power.
Also, if there's any other possible performance mods I can do to the car, please let me know
thank you
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Albert Bell (08-30-2020)
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Couple interesting points,
1: Mercedes M276 engine performance when measured, obtains higher power numbers than rated from factory.
2: Renntech tune adds 14hp/57lb-ft
3: Eurocharged Tuned Maximum Power Gains: +76WHP / +91WTQ
Performance Numbers Overview
E43 AMG Sedan (W213 | M276 | 3.0L V6 BiTurbo) Stock Performance:
Rated by Mercedes-Benz: 396 HP @ 6,100 RPM; 384 LB-FT @ 2,500-5,000 RPM
Rated by RENNtech: 402 HP @ 5,750 RPM; 414 LB-FT @ 3,600 RPM
Mercedes M276 engine performance when measured, obtains higher power numbers than rated from factory.
E43 AMG Sedan (W213 | M276 | 3.0L V6 BiTurbo) Modified Performance:
Rated by RENNtech: 416 HP @ 5,900 RPM; 471 LB-FT @ 3,300 RPM
Crank Performance Numbers are calculated with a 17% Drivetrain loss on 4MATIC vehicles.
1: Mercedes M276 engine performance when measured, obtains higher power numbers than rated from factory.
2: Renntech tune adds 14hp/57lb-ft
3: Eurocharged Tuned Maximum Power Gains: +76WHP / +91WTQ
Performance Numbers Overview
E43 AMG Sedan (W213 | M276 | 3.0L V6 BiTurbo) Stock Performance:
Rated by Mercedes-Benz: 396 HP @ 6,100 RPM; 384 LB-FT @ 2,500-5,000 RPM
Rated by RENNtech: 402 HP @ 5,750 RPM; 414 LB-FT @ 3,600 RPM
Mercedes M276 engine performance when measured, obtains higher power numbers than rated from factory.
E43 AMG Sedan (W213 | M276 | 3.0L V6 BiTurbo) Modified Performance:
Rated by RENNtech: 416 HP @ 5,900 RPM; 471 LB-FT @ 3,300 RPM
Crank Performance Numbers are calculated with a 17% Drivetrain loss on 4MATIC vehicles.
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More than 2k for 14 hp is extraordinarily expensive. The improvement in performance are fractions of a second and as anyone tunes or races knows with differences that small a tailwind or simply a cooler day might make the same difference. If you really want to go faster, for about 10k more you get an additional 200hp from a E63!!! Renntech makes good tunes, but in this case, the pricing is ridiculous. It just shows that AMG has already mostly maxed out the engine for day to day use.
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Once you increase the torque, there is only one place to go, more rpm. Since these cars redline at only 6K, that's the easy solution. That said, it also makes it easier to blow up the engine. This may explain why Renntech only got 14hp but got a lot more torque. That increased the stats marginally. It's the safe way to go.
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More boost provided by larger turbos simple as that. The issue is there arent that many ways to skin this cat. As expected there isnt much tunning possible on an already tuned engine particularly of you want conserve OEM reliability.
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18 MB E63S AMG - 17 MB C43 AMG - Much more!
"The 396hp you are referring to is CRANK (flywheel) horsepower. The chart above is a chassis dynamometer chart which shows power "at the wheels". The 416hp is "wheel" horsepower.
If you add the drivetrain loss to the 416hp (power at the wheels) you will see the vehicle is making over 500+hp at the engine/crank (flywheel).
You can see the power gain on the POWER PLOT posted above as we did a before and after. The vehicle's 394hp at the CRANK measured 318hp at the WHEELS on our dynamometer (dyno)"
Link: https://mbworld.org/forums/e-class-w...ml#post7304889
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thanks for the clarification. i fully understand the difference between engine power on an engine stand and RWHP. i have tuned my LT4 and my Duramax using HP Tuners. i would like to due the tune myself on the E43, but HP tuners only supports the E series V-8 not the 3,0
as for the negative comments, there are people on almost every board that behave this way. they are typically weak minded and feel stronger using the written word. most would be afraid to talk to others that way in person.
as for the negative comments, there are people on almost every board that behave this way. they are typically weak minded and feel stronger using the written word. most would be afraid to talk to others that way in person.
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thanks for the clarification. i fully understand the difference between engine power on an engine stand and RWHP. i have tuned my LT4 and my Duramax using HP Tuners. i would like to due the tune myself on the E43, but HP tuners only supports the E series V-8 not the 3,0
as for the negative comments, there are people on almost every board that behave this way. they are typically weak minded and feel stronger using the written word. most would be afraid to talk to others that way in person.
as for the negative comments, there are people on almost every board that behave this way. they are typically weak minded and feel stronger using the written word. most would be afraid to talk to others that way in person.
All in all, you sound like an uninformed, ignorant cheap a**. Not sure how you found yourself in an E43, but I hope you don't treat that poor car like you treat your others.
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thanks for the clarification. i fully understand the difference between engine power on an engine stand and RWHP. i have tuned my LT4 and my Duramax using HP Tuners. i would like to due the tune myself on the E43, but HP tuners only supports the E series V-8 not the 3,0
as for the negative comments, there are people on almost every board that behave this way. they are typically weak minded and feel stronger using the written word. most would be afraid to talk to others that way in person.
as for the negative comments, there are people on almost every board that behave this way. they are typically weak minded and feel stronger using the written word. most would be afraid to talk to others that way in person.
LMAO! First off, did you read what you wrote? You obviously didn't if you responded the way you did. You clearly do not know how to read a dyno sheet but yet you know the difference between "RWHP" and engine power? Not likely. Your response makes you seem even less knowledgeable then your first comment as well as makes you look more like a fool.
Just to clarify some things, tuning a Mercedes is not the same as tuning a Duramax (lmfao ... def going to screen shot and save that one for a good laugh). HP Tuners only supports the OLDER model C63's because it is a ME9 ECU and is NA. (do you even know that means? ... im assuming your going use google). You are running a BiTurbo V6 that uses a completely different ECU.
Gotta love the DIY tuners. You should of got a VW. Incase you didnt know this ... Its not a Chevy, its a Mercedes.
Regarding your last comment, not sure anyone is afraid. I would not have a problem giving you my address and telling you this in person. lmk
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I've had my E43 for a few months now. I decided to go with OETuning option for the car, and along with that added catless downpipes.
This tune is awesome, I was able to achieve about 410 HP and 450TQ to the wheel on a dyno. I definitely feel a difference while driving, my advice to those who go catless, definitely find a good aftermarket muffler, the stock mufflers create such a bad rasp that I just went the cheaper route and straight piped the car, taking out my res and mufflers but I am going to put the resonator back soon, its so droney.
I had my car tuned by the guys at BenzWorkz in Huntington Beach, CA, I would recommend them to anyone!
FYI:Car was on California pump gas
This tune is awesome, I was able to achieve about 410 HP and 450TQ to the wheel on a dyno. I definitely feel a difference while driving, my advice to those who go catless, definitely find a good aftermarket muffler, the stock mufflers create such a bad rasp that I just went the cheaper route and straight piped the car, taking out my res and mufflers but I am going to put the resonator back soon, its so droney.
I had my car tuned by the guys at BenzWorkz in Huntington Beach, CA, I would recommend them to anyone!
FYI:Car was on California pump gas
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kngreene (11-08-2017)
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I've had my E43 for a few months now. I decided to go with OETuning option for the car, and along with that added catless downpipes.
This tune is awesome, I was able to achieve about 410 HP and 450TQ to the wheel on a dyno. I definitely feel a difference while driving, my advice to those who go catless, definitely find a good aftermarket muffler, the stock mufflers create such a bad rasp that I just went the cheaper route and straight piped the car, taking out my res and mufflers but I am going to put the resonator back soon, its so droney.
I had my car tuned by the guys at BenzWorkz in Huntington Beach, CA, I would recommend them to anyone!
FYI:Car was on California pump gas
This tune is awesome, I was able to achieve about 410 HP and 450TQ to the wheel on a dyno. I definitely feel a difference while driving, my advice to those who go catless, definitely find a good aftermarket muffler, the stock mufflers create such a bad rasp that I just went the cheaper route and straight piped the car, taking out my res and mufflers but I am going to put the resonator back soon, its so droney.
I had my car tuned by the guys at BenzWorkz in Huntington Beach, CA, I would recommend them to anyone!
FYI:Car was on California pump gas
another possibility is the $300 Dinan bridge controller. this sits on top of the tune instead of needing programming. i think these devices simply fool the ECU into thinking the boost is lower which increases boost by 2-4 psi. should be good for about 30 hp. has anyone tried this on an e43?
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Are you just wanting the car to kick up faster, or are you wanting better gas mileage too?
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waisoserious (07-13-2018)
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I JUST GOT MY C400 TUNED FROM BENZWORKZ
I've had my E43 for a few months now. I decided to go with OETuning option for the car, and along with that added catless downpipes.
This tune is awesome, I was able to achieve about 410 HP and 450TQ to the wheel on a dyno. I definitely feel a difference while driving, my advice to those who go catless, definitely find a good aftermarket muffler, the stock mufflers create such a bad rasp that I just went the cheaper route and straight piped the car, taking out my res and mufflers but I am going to put the resonator back soon, its so droney.
I had my car tuned by the guys at BenzWorkz in Huntington Beach, CA, I would recommend them to anyone!
FYI:Car was on California pump gas
This tune is awesome, I was able to achieve about 410 HP and 450TQ to the wheel on a dyno. I definitely feel a difference while driving, my advice to those who go catless, definitely find a good aftermarket muffler, the stock mufflers create such a bad rasp that I just went the cheaper route and straight piped the car, taking out my res and mufflers but I am going to put the resonator back soon, its so droney.
I had my car tuned by the guys at BenzWorkz in Huntington Beach, CA, I would recommend them to anyone!
FYI:Car was on California pump gas
Last edited by killascrimp; 11-10-2017 at 02:56 AM.
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Kdub$$ (11-16-2017)
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More than 2k for 14 hp is extraordinarily expensive. The improvement in performance are fractions of a second and as anyone tunes or races knows with differences that small a tailwind or simply a cooler day might make the same difference. If you really want to go faster, for about 10k more you get an additional 200hp from a E63!!! Renntech makes good tunes, but in this case, the pricing is ridiculous. It just shows that AMG has already mostly maxed out the engine for day to day use.