MY18 E400 Sedan in USA--CONFIRMED!
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We are EXTREMELY fortunate to live and buy cars in the United States. I'm from Thailand, and we have excise taxes on not only the price of the car, but on engine size and emission rate.
So if I was getting my car there, it would be a E220d Dynamic AMG Estate, with the new 1950cc diesel engine. That car costs THB 4,750,000 or about USD 140,000.
So from that perspective, the 1950cc E300 is a pretty damn good value.
So if I was getting my car there, it would be a E220d Dynamic AMG Estate, with the new 1950cc diesel engine. That car costs THB 4,750,000 or about USD 140,000.
So from that perspective, the 1950cc E300 is a pretty damn good value.
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Since when is good enough ok for a $60-70,000 Mercedes? The rationalization on this site to accept a 240hp four is mind blowing. I guarantee you there are now tens of thousands of e300 owners out there with massive buyers remorse. Did the Mercedes demographic leap to octogenarians? Really pathetic. Regards. Ned.
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Every brand in this class offers standard 4-cylinder power, but Mercedes' mistake was making it the only choice for most buyers, because most buyers don't want to spend 70K for an E43.
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E400 4Matic
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Since when is good enough ok for a $60-70,000 Mercedes? The rationalization on this site to accept a 240hp four is mind blowing. I guarantee you there are now tens of thousands of e300 owners out there with massive buyers remorse. Did the Mercedes demographic leap to octogenarians? Really pathetic. Regards. Ned.
No remorse here. Don't actually recall ever needing to pass an 18-wheeler going 80mph, uphill, on a two lane road...really.
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Since when is good enough ok for a $60-70,000 Mercedes? The rationalization on this site to accept a 240hp four is mind blowing. I guarantee you there are now tens of thousands of e300 owners out there with massive buyers remorse. Did the Mercedes demographic leap to octogenarians? Really pathetic. Regards. Ned.
No remorse here. Don't actually recall ever needing to pass an 18-wheeler going 80mph, on a two lane road...really?
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Just a rough guess based on 60-70,000 sales per year in US alone. And please don't tell me you'd not rather have a 329hp turbo 6. Really. Regards. Ned.
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2018 E400W4 EU Delivery 1999 E320 2022 E53 COUPE
In 2016 MB sold close to 47k. That is E350 and E300 combined. So that number I asume will be much lower for the 2017 only E300
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Passenger car sales in general are "off", in favor of Crossover and SUV sales, so with that in mind, plus the fact that the E300 is a new model ("never buy the first production year..."), it doesn't appear that the turbo 4 has caused a stampede of buyers to other models or brands. It may not be everybody's cup of tea, but that doesn't make it a bad car. In normal driving it performs every bit as well as the V6 W212...with a much nicer interior and better gas mileage.
Would I like to have 329HP? Maybe. What I'd "really" like is 603HP.
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But would you have chosen a 329hp v6 for an extra $5,000 if it was an option? I have more than one car as well but prefer a more ballsy engine in anything I drive. Still love my 2011 e550, couldn't trade down 150hp. Regards. Ned.
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Nevertheless, I could have had either of the bigger engines if I'd wanted to but the 220d is fine for going back and forward to work, has lower emissions and is very tax efficient.
In the end we are all lucky to have the choice - choice is good!
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Speaking of engines, here is a little more on the I6 that will eventually replace the E43.
http://www.motoring.com.au/mercedes-...rtrain-107808/
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http://www.motoring.com.au/mercedes-...rtrain-107808/
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Speaking of engines, here is a little more on the I6 that will eventually replace the E43.
http://www.motoring.com.au/mercedes-...rtrain-107808/
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http://www.motoring.com.au/mercedes-...rtrain-107808/
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Speaking of engines, here is a little more on the I6 that will eventually replace the E43.
http://www.motoring.com.au/mercedes-...rtrain-107808/
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http://www.motoring.com.au/mercedes-...rtrain-107808/
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We are EXTREMELY fortunate to live and buy cars in the United States. I'm from Thailand, and we have excise taxes on not only the price of the car, but on engine size and emission rate.
So if I was getting my car there, it would be a E220d Dynamic AMG Estate, with the new 1950cc diesel engine. That car costs THB 4,750,000 or about USD 140,000.
So from that perspective, the 1950cc E300 is a pretty damn good value.
So if I was getting my car there, it would be a E220d Dynamic AMG Estate, with the new 1950cc diesel engine. That car costs THB 4,750,000 or about USD 140,000.
So from that perspective, the 1950cc E300 is a pretty damn good value.
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We had a 2004 E500 with AirMatic. Fantastic car, but I don't think we will ever see a non AMG V8 E Class sedan again. That said, when I went to order a new SL, I just assumed that I would get an SL550 with the V8. However, after multiple test drives in the V6 powered SL450, I went for it. Amazing power and torque, along with a much lighter & sportier feel. Coupled with the new nine speed transmission, it really is a perfect combination. Like it or not, we have to face it: MB & others are rising to the occasion with new, smaller engines, offering more and more in the way of HP and torque. Now, they just need to work on refining how the I4 sounds at low speeds. I heard one the other day in a parking lot and it sounded like an old diesel.
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2018 E300 Luxury - P3 and more
Back with the W212, the E400 wasn't anywhere near as popular as the E350 due to this.
At least this means a more powerful engine without being forced into an AMG, and as a bonus, it's available with the Luxury trim. The '15-16 E400 was only available with the nosejob.
To be honest, with my '15 E350, the engine/transmission combo has never thrilled me. It awkwardly gets the job done, but it's a far cry from the 340HP/333ft-lb from my 2004 M45. I can't remember ever thinking "I wish I had more power" with the M45. With the E350, the car seems to have enough power, but it's computers can't figure out how to deliver it.
Working through the latest MY18 DOG as I type this....and probably going to order the 4-banger. Why? Distronic doesn't care about what's underneath the hood. ~90% of the time it's running the show on my E350. I'm sure I'll be doing the same with my E300. The mileage boost going from my M45 to E350 was substantial. Almost a 50% savings. I also enjoy filling the tank only 1-2x a week instead of 2-3x.
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