ngerstman

Yikes! Good to be a car buyer in US. Regards. Ned.

joshg1001

Its all about perspective. Im 28 and came from a 09 C350. That car had 268hp and a little less torque. This car doesn't feel like a step down in power. And it shouldnt, it has a little less hp but more torque which makes up for it. Would I want more power? Yes. But in my daily driving, I never feel underpowered.

Germancar1

Every brand in this class offers standard 4-cylinder power, but Mercedes' mistake was making it the only choice for most buyers, because most buyers don't want to spend 70K for an E43.

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ngerstman

+1.

akfdqwer

Same here. I bought the E400 because I believe the 6 cylinder has more power, so it doesn't have to work as hard. Hopefully that will lead to a more durable motor than the inline 4 in the long run.

Cao Black

Tens of thousands...really.
No remorse here. Don't actually recall ever needing to pass an 18-wheeler going 80mph, uphill, on a two lane road...really.

Cao Black

Tens of thousands...really.
No remorse here. Don't actually recall ever needing to pass an 18-wheeler going 80mph, on a two lane road...really?

ngerstman

Just a rough guess based on 60-70,000 sales per year in US alone. And please don't tell me you'd not rather have a 329hp turbo 6. Really. Regards. Ned.

Wassaby

In 2016 MB sold close to 47k. That is E350 and E300 combined. So that number I asume will be much lower for the 2017 only E300

Cao Black

I believe that Mercedes, starting in 2016, includes CLS sales with E class. In any event, GoodCarBadCar (my source) reports that E class sales through May 2017 are just shy of 20,000, which works out to the same 47,000 total for year end 2017.

Passenger car sales in general are "off", in favor of Crossover and SUV sales, so with that in mind, plus the fact that the E300 is a new model ("never buy the first production year..."), it doesn't appear that the turbo 4 has caused a stampede of buyers to other models or brands. It may not be everybody's cup of tea, but that doesn't make it a bad car. In normal driving it performs every bit as well as the V6 W212...with a much nicer interior and better gas mileage.

Would I like to have 329HP? Maybe. What I'd "really" like is 603HP.

HBerman

YES!!! Waiting to be able to order my 2019 E63S.

Germancar1

Do you mean 2018 E63S? The 2019 model is over a year away.

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HBerman

No, I am ordering a 2019 E63S next year. I have to wait for my current lease to be up.

arnsbrae

If I wanted a bigger engine I'd have chosen one.

Some of us have more than one car...

ngerstman

But would you have chosen a 329hp v6 for an extra $5,000 if it was an option? I have more than one car as well but prefer a more ballsy engine in anything I drive. Still love my 2011 e550, couldn't trade down 150hp. Regards. Ned.

arnsbrae

The next engine up in the UK (petrol or diesel) adds another £10K ($13K).

Nevertheless, I could have had either of the bigger engines if I'd wanted to but the 220d is fine for going back and forward to work, has lower emissions and is very tax efficient.

In the end we are all lucky to have the choice - choice is good!

Germancar1

Speaking of engines, here is a little more on the I6 that will eventually replace the E43.

http://www.motoring.com.au/mercedes-...rtrain-107808/


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ngerstman

Interesting, good find. Thanks. Regards. Ned.

ua549

That's about 496 hp and fuel thrifty. LA motor Show here I come.

michaelleongcl

It seems to suggest that the previously rumored 50AMG series will now be 53AMG

Germancar1

Yep.

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c4004matic

Seeee at 90k a fully equiped E 43 is a BARGAIN.

Streamliner

We had a 2004 E500 with AirMatic. Fantastic car, but I don't think we will ever see a non AMG V8 E Class sedan again. That said, when I went to order a new SL, I just assumed that I would get an SL550 with the V8. However, after multiple test drives in the V6 powered SL450, I went for it. Amazing power and torque, along with a much lighter & sportier feel. Coupled with the new nine speed transmission, it really is a perfect combination. Like it or not, we have to face it: MB & others are rising to the occasion with new, smaller engines, offering more and more in the way of HP and torque. Now, they just need to work on refining how the I4 sounds at low speeds. I heard one the other day in a parking lot and it sounded like an old diesel.

BeachBunny

An extra $5k? Sure. BUT it won't be an extra $5k. Try $10k.

Back with the W212, the E400 wasn't anywhere near as popular as the E350 due to this.

At least this means a more powerful engine without being forced into an AMG, and as a bonus, it's available with the Luxury trim. The '15-16 E400 was only available with the nosejob.

To be honest, with my '15 E350, the engine/transmission combo has never thrilled me. It awkwardly gets the job done, but it's a far cry from the 340HP/333ft-lb from my 2004 M45. I can't remember ever thinking "I wish I had more power" with the M45. With the E350, the car seems to have enough power, but it's computers can't figure out how to deliver it.

Working through the latest MY18 DOG as I type this....and probably going to order the 4-banger. Why? Distronic doesn't care about what's underneath the hood. ~90% of the time it's running the show on my E350. I'm sure I'll be doing the same with my E300. The mileage boost going from my M45 to E350 was substantial. Almost a 50% savings. I also enjoy filling the tank only 1-2x a week instead of 2-3x.

BACnMercedes

Key word here, "almost." I've still never drove a turbo car that didn't have turbo lag.