W213 computers
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And how much controllers there in? I preparing for my purchase of E300 2017 with flood damage and i'm wondering how much controllers I will need to change if some.
And can I buy some used controllers and put in to the car? I work as a software engineer / electronics engineer, so my background is in electronics stuff, so most of the repairs I would do by my self.
And can I buy some used controllers and put in to the car? I work as a software engineer / electronics engineer, so my background is in electronics stuff, so most of the repairs I would do by my self.
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hmm.. the car I will buy is from auction and I can't do full diagnostics.
I'm just wondering if the W213 can be repaired after flood damage, the water line is up to windows. I'm thinking that ECU will be working because the ECU box is very sealed.
I'm just wondering if the W213 can be repaired after flood damage, the water line is up to windows. I'm thinking that ECU will be working because the ECU box is very sealed.
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Given the complexity of the electrical architecture of E Class, and any modern luxury auto, I would expect a good amount of diagnosis and trial and error to get that car back to being reliable. There are several experts on this forum who may be able to advise you better. I've spent my entire career in technology, and I am honestly baffled by the complexity of the E-Class electrical system.
Your project sounds cool, best of luck and take lots of pictures!!
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Your project sounds cool, best of luck and take lots of pictures!!
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2018 E300 Luxury - P3 and more
#1) If the car was flooded up to its windows, it's not worth salvaging. Unless it's a rare 1955 Chevy that you're planning on gutting to the frame and starting over, you'll never be able to get the mold/mildew/etc., out of the car. At the very least, all interior trim is a gonner, if not a biohazard. If the car's sitting at auction, then you know no one's bothered to clean it up, so the mold keeps growing.
#2) You're going to need access to a Mercedes Xentry system. These aren't cheap. Worse, they require an annual subscription from Mercedes which is even pricier. Even if you are able to get the right parts, you'll still need to code them to match the car's VIN# and matching equipment list.
#3) The W213 is a computer on wheels, not a car. Flip through the forum and you'll see that even on a good day, keeping the electronics happy on a factory-new MB isn't always easy for the dealers who work on these cars every day. If you're not familiar with them, forget it.
I hate to be such a downer, but I'm a techie as well. If you have a smart phone, it likely contains algorithms I designed 20 years ago. I've worked on industrial production lines, avionics, broadcast facilities, etc. Even I won't tackle repairing a flooded MB.
#2) You're going to need access to a Mercedes Xentry system. These aren't cheap. Worse, they require an annual subscription from Mercedes which is even pricier. Even if you are able to get the right parts, you'll still need to code them to match the car's VIN# and matching equipment list.
#3) The W213 is a computer on wheels, not a car. Flip through the forum and you'll see that even on a good day, keeping the electronics happy on a factory-new MB isn't always easy for the dealers who work on these cars every day. If you're not familiar with them, forget it.
I hate to be such a downer, but I'm a techie as well. If you have a smart phone, it likely contains algorithms I designed 20 years ago. I've worked on industrial production lines, avionics, broadcast facilities, etc. Even I won't tackle repairing a flooded MB.
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Ok, thanks for the answers!
I heard that I can diagnose/reprogram not only with Xentry but with iCarsoft MB like tools. Is this correct?
If yes then I would skip all the Xentry expensive devices and software.
I heard that I can diagnose/reprogram not only with Xentry but with iCarsoft MB like tools. Is this correct?
If yes then I would skip all the Xentry expensive devices and software.
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The man to ask on this forum is @konigstiger. He's the encyclopedia of all things Benz. Also, there is knowledgeable MB technician from S Florida with an S600 Coupe who posts great technical details... can't recall his name.
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Here's a key question, does the car run? If it runs, maybe you have a shot at fixing it. But if it doesn't, the sky's the limit. The problem with a 2017 is that it's so new, you'll only be able to get parts from an MB dealer, you won't get much luck finding parts at a junkyard so no, you probably won't find used parts. And of course with a flood vehicle that's salvage, there would be no MB warranty. Flood vehicles are only good for parts for say a body part like a door or hood/trunk. Once salt water gets in, all the parts will eventually corrode and even if you fix it, years down the road you will be chasing electrical gremlins that no one else knows about because they don't have a flood car. I would skip any car that was up to the windows, maybe if it was just the floorboards and that's a tough maybe.
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223.168 & 213.012 & 906.633 & 214.005
Not necessarily all are damaged, at least one is on the roof that water has not reached in this case.
