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Old 07-26-2018, 01:44 PM
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Maybe you should ask the European dealer for a pigtail harness. I cannot imagine MB would run different cables for two different versions. Case in point, I had a first generation Juke with the combination red brake/blinker. I bought a pair of European amber tail lights from France when I had a business trip there years ago. The dealer sold me two separate 3 foot harnesses for each side to convert it to the Euro-spec separate amber/red brake. The funny thing is that a few years later, the US market redesigned the Juke with the amber blinker. I did take a look at the newer generation Juke and, sure enough, it does have the separate attachable harness. So for those with the older Juke here, you can convert yours to the newer version.

As far as the MB, I have the face-lift W211 wagon and notice that the clear strip where the non-US spec uses as amber blinker is left empty for us Yanks. I don't know why these manufacturers (those that export to US and abroad) go out of their way to make two different housings. It seems the cost would be more plus the storage of two different parts.
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Maybe you should ask the European dealer for a pigtail harness. I cannot imagine MB would run different cables for two different versions. Case in point, I had a first generation Juke with the combination red brake/blinker. I bought a pair of European amber tail lights from France when I had a business trip there years ago. The dealer sold me two separate 3 foot harnesses for each side to convert it to the Euro-spec separate amber/red brake. The funny thing is that a few years later, the US market redesigned the Juke with the amber blinker. I did take a look at the newer generation Juke and, sure enough, it does have the separate attachable harness. So for those with the older Juke here, you can convert yours to the newer version.

As far as the MB, I have the face-lift W211 wagon and notice that the clear strip where the non-US spec uses as amber blinker is left empty for us Yanks. I don't know why these manufacturers (those that export to US and abroad) go out of their way to make two different housings. It seems the cost would be more plus the storage of two different parts.
Logic is not always paramount when lawyers and bureaucrats are involved. If exporting US models is a real concern, and apparently it is, I can see why the separate wire harnass and connectors. Shame.
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Conversion harnesses do not exist for these cars. The control unit (or rear SAM, in MB parlance) tells certain pins to activate for certain lighting functions. On European/RoW cars, this means there are separate pins for braking and indicating. US cars don't have a pin assigned in software to support a separate indicator. Even if the programming was there, the brake pin is still programmed to flash on indicating.
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Has everyone given up on this? I would love amber turn signals. Also, coding to keep the drl from cutting out when turn signal is switched on.
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Has everyone given up on this? I would love amber turn signals. Also, coding to keep the drl from cutting out when turn signal is switched on.
Nope. I know what to do, have practiced on a friendís car, and have the parts. Blame ****ing MBUSA for the silly hold on my wagon for lack of updates.
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So what is required besides the euro tails? Need to get plugs and make up some harnesses? And is there coding involved?
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So what is required besides the euro tails? Need to get plugs and make up some harnesses? And is there coding involved?
Yes. Coding and Xentry access is required. Iíll share when Iím ready.

I havenít looked at DRL coding.
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Yes. Coding and Xentry access is required. Iíll share when Iím ready.

I havenít looked at DRL coding.
How did it work out? I understand that coding has to be changed from US to ROW (rest of world). One technician here, however, told me that this change throws off coding for other parts of the car. He also told me that there is an extra wire leading to US version of tail lights. This seems strange as in the EU lights there is this clear strip at bottom that houses the lamps for amber lights. When we connected the EU lights, the clear strip lit up in amber, but of course the indicator still flashed the red brake light.
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How did it work out? I understand that coding has to be changed from US to ROW (rest of world). One technician here, however, told me that this change throws off coding for other parts of the car. He also told me that there is an extra wire leading to US version of tail lights. This seems strange as in the EU lights there is this clear strip at bottom that houses the lamps for amber lights. When we connected the EU lights, the clear strip lit up in amber, but of course the indicator still flashed the red brake light.
It all worked out. And yes, your tech is right. Iíve had to code lots of things in the car to EU spec to accomplish this and other things like activating the multibeam lights.

The clear strip on US lamps are missing LEDs. Thatís why thereís an extra pin on EU lamps.
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Thank you for your post, I have been actually trying to get them installed lately but the shops that I took them to donít know how to do them (even with the witing diagrams). Yesterday I took my car for service and thought of asking the dealership to do it, and surprisingly they agreed to do it but their price made me refuse. I have found a really professional guy that could do it and will take it there next week. Iíll post here for sure after visiting him
Any success? I took my car to Europe and naively went to MB dealership to have the indicator lights changed to amber. But they couldn't do it because recoding requires approval and this MB won't give them. So I bought the EU lights, had the US connectors clipped so they fit into EU lights, got the clear strip in the EU light turn on in amber, but haven't progressed since.
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It all worked out. And yes, your tech is right. Iíve had to code lots of things in the car to EU spec to accomplish this and other things like activating the multibeam lights.

The clear strip on US lamps are missing LEDs. Thatís why thereís an extra pin on EU lamps.
Was the coding limited to rear SAM? Would you remember to what connector on rear SAM you had to add the wire to extra pin on EU lamps?
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Was the coding limited to rear SAM? Would you remember to what connector on rear SAM you had to add the wire to extra pin on EU lamps?
I would consult the wiring diagram.
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I would consult the wiring diagram.
Thanks, will do on Monday when I go to a shop here. Hopefully they can do the whole thing, wiring and coding. The amber turn signal is required by law otherwise I can't register the car.
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So what is required besides the euro tails? Need to get plugs and make up some harnesses? And is there coding involved?
1. You need to cut off parts of US connector so it fits into Euro lights
2. No wire has to be removed or added, but you need to reconnect to a different pin on Euro lights
3. Then coding rear sam unit and resetting it
This procedure was good enough for my car. The rear lights now flash in amber in the clear strip below red brake led.
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Old 01-15-2019, 06:11 PM
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