Switching from US to European Tail Lights
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Maybe you should ask the European dealer for a pigtail harness. I cannot imagine MB would run different cables for two different versions. Case in point, I had a first generation Juke with the combination red brake/blinker. I bought a pair of European amber tail lights from France when I had a business trip there years ago. The dealer sold me two separate 3 foot harnesses for each side to convert it to the Euro-spec separate amber/red brake. The funny thing is that a few years later, the US market redesigned the Juke with the amber blinker. I did take a look at the newer generation Juke and, sure enough, it does have the separate attachable harness. So for those with the older Juke here, you can convert yours to the newer version.
As far as the MB, I have the face-lift W211 wagon and notice that the clear strip where the non-US spec uses as amber blinker is left empty for us Yanks. I don't know why these manufacturers (those that export to US and abroad) go out of their way to make two different housings. It seems the cost would be more plus the storage of two different parts.
As far as the MB, I have the face-lift W211 wagon and notice that the clear strip where the non-US spec uses as amber blinker is left empty for us Yanks. I don't know why these manufacturers (those that export to US and abroad) go out of their way to make two different housings. It seems the cost would be more plus the storage of two different parts.
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Maybe you should ask the European dealer for a pigtail harness. I cannot imagine MB would run different cables for two different versions. Case in point, I had a first generation Juke with the combination red brake/blinker. I bought a pair of European amber tail lights from France when I had a business trip there years ago. The dealer sold me two separate 3 foot harnesses for each side to convert it to the Euro-spec separate amber/red brake. The funny thing is that a few years later, the US market redesigned the Juke with the amber blinker. I did take a look at the newer generation Juke and, sure enough, it does have the separate attachable harness. So for those with the older Juke here, you can convert yours to the newer version.
As far as the MB, I have the face-lift W211 wagon and notice that the clear strip where the non-US spec uses as amber blinker is left empty for us Yanks. I don't know why these manufacturers (those that export to US and abroad) go out of their way to make two different housings. It seems the cost would be more plus the storage of two different parts.
As far as the MB, I have the face-lift W211 wagon and notice that the clear strip where the non-US spec uses as amber blinker is left empty for us Yanks. I don't know why these manufacturers (those that export to US and abroad) go out of their way to make two different housings. It seems the cost would be more plus the storage of two different parts.
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Conversion harnesses do not exist for these cars. The control unit (or rear SAM, in MB parlance) tells certain pins to activate for certain lighting functions. On European/RoW cars, this means there are separate pins for braking and indicating. US cars don't have a pin assigned in software to support a separate indicator. Even if the programming was there, the brake pin is still programmed to flash on indicating.
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Nope. I know what to do, have practiced on a friend’s car, and have the parts. Blame ****ing MBUSA for the silly hold on my wagon for lack of updates.
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How did it work out? I understand that coding has to be changed from US to ROW (rest of world). One technician here, however, told me that this change throws off coding for other parts of the car. He also told me that there is an extra wire leading to US version of tail lights. This seems strange as in the EU lights there is this clear strip at bottom that houses the lamps for amber lights. When we connected the EU lights, the clear strip lit up in amber, but of course the indicator still flashed the red brake light.
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How did it work out? I understand that coding has to be changed from US to ROW (rest of world). One technician here, however, told me that this change throws off coding for other parts of the car. He also told me that there is an extra wire leading to US version of tail lights. This seems strange as in the EU lights there is this clear strip at bottom that houses the lamps for amber lights. When we connected the EU lights, the clear strip lit up in amber, but of course the indicator still flashed the red brake light.
The clear strip on US lamps are missing LEDs. That’s why there’s an extra pin on EU lamps.
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Thank you for your post, I have been actually trying to get them installed lately but the shops that I took them to don’t know how to do them (even with the witing diagrams). Yesterday I took my car for service and thought of asking the dealership to do it, and surprisingly they agreed to do it but their price made me refuse. I have found a really professional guy that could do it and will take it there next week. I’ll post here for sure after visiting him
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Was the coding limited to rear SAM? Would you remember to what connector on rear SAM you had to add the wire to extra pin on EU lamps?
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2. No wire has to be removed or added, but you need to reconnect to a different pin on Euro lights
3. Then coding rear sam unit and resetting it
This procedure was good enough for my car. The rear lights now flash in amber in the clear strip below red brake led.
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Were you actually able to get the multibeam headlights to function as they do in Europe? Are the lights you refer to the M-B "LED INTELLIGENT LIGHT SYSTEM" My 2017 E400C4 has the LED headlights-- I'd really like to release their full potential. My previous car was a 2014 BMW 535ix also with LED headlights-- it was a lot easier to code BMWs to achieve the function you wanted. (full dynamic headlights, rear DRLs, etc.)
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For someone considering this mod, does anyone know which UK part #s are a best match for installing into a 2018MY US spec W213?
A2139067900 and A2139068000
or
A2139067700 and A2139067800
or are they the same?
A2139067900 and A2139068000
or
A2139067700 and A2139067800
or are they the same?
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'18 E43
The ones I am looking at:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Be...s/153425496161
The seller says they are Plug and Play
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Be...s/153425496161
The seller says they are Plug and Play
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The ones I am looking at:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Be...s/153425496161
The seller says they are Plug and Play
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Be...s/153425496161
The seller says they are Plug and Play
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I did read the thread, and no one posted part numbers for the lights they've installed. I'd like to find out if the UK tail lights are the same or different than the European lights. The seller included part #s that I believe are for the UK specific cars. I do not know what the cars in Germany for instance, use. Is it possible the LHD and RHD cars use different tail lights?
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Anything is possible with market specific parts. IMO the big difference is that US models have different pin counts than the EU models. So not only are the physical lights different, the wiring harness is too.
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Conversion harnesses do not exist for these cars. The control unit (or rear SAM, in MB parlance) tells certain pins to activate for certain lighting functions. On European/RoW cars, this means there are separate pins for braking and indicating. US cars don't have a pin assigned in software to support a separate indicator. Even if the programming was there, the brake pin is still programmed to flash on indicating.
i have changed the rear tail light to European one and fit to the cable of US ,, so the turn signal works fine in Amber but when I press the break the turn signal in Amber is become consistent Amber and no blinking I made all the program in the work shop but they could not solve this problem. So please do you have Any Idea .
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