Skyblazer

Many thanks to jmeyersnv for separating to the oversized E450/E63 wagon DOG into two parts, which permits posting on this forum.

This is the E450 Wagon Ordering Guide

Skyblazer

Many thanks to jmeyersnv for separating to the oversized E450/E63 wagon DOG into two parts, which permits posting on this forum.

This is the 2019 E63 wagon Ordering Guide (29 pages)

CaptainE

jmeyersnv

The 2019 E450 Wagon Dealer Order Guide was posted by Skyblazer on this forum at 3:28 p.m.

Skyblazer

Capt E,
I recommend you contact your MB deal and request a Dealer's Ordering Guide.

In my experience, having the DOG is absolutely necessary to make wise decisions.

The dealer may tell you to use the MB-USA "build" feature but I find the DOG far more informative/useful and allows paging forward and backwards etc.

Can't imagine why a dealer would not provide the DOG. There is no "classified" info such as invoice prices etc.

Good Luck

CaptainE

Skyblazer

I got the DOG from my sales person at the MB dealership.

I notice that both the 2018 Wagon DOG and the 2019 Wagon DOG were first published in February.

The 2018 had 7 revisions by April 2017. The 2019, as you can see, is on it's third update/revision at of March 2018.

The dealer having the DOG does not mean the order book is open.

My dealer thinks by Dec 2018, or Jan 2019, he will know if the 2020 MY will have the new inline-six engine.

He indicated first builds are probably July 2019 for a Aug/Sept 2019 USA delivery for a 2020 MY wagon.

So, the dealer has DOG well before MB allows "build" on their website.

CaptainE

Skyblazer

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Thanks for this link. I now know more about how the inline-six works.

Keeping my fingers crossed in is on the 2020 My E Class wagon.

4dimension

Can someone explain why the car becomes slower after an engine boost?
Old engine 329hp, 354lb-ft - 0-60 5.3s;
new engine 362 hp, 369 lb-ft 0-60: 5.6s
Does this make any sense at all?

Germancar1

Where are you getting these numbers from? Must be a misprint or different sources. There is no way the E450 is slower than the E400.

M

guhvies

I would posit that the E450 is using the engine from the C43AMG, so that 5 should be a 4.

ua549

E450 straight from MBUSA.com - note the 429HP & 0-60 in 4.4 seconds

Inline-6 turbocharged engine with turbocharger and electric auxiliary compressor

• 429 hp and 384 lb-ft of torque*
• EQ Boost Integrated Starter-Alternator system producing 21 hp and 184 lb-ft of torque*
• 0-60 in 4.4 seconds*
• Top speed of 130 mph (electronically limited)*
• AMG SPEEDSHIFT TCT 9G transmission
• AMG Performance 4MATIC+ with fully variable torque distribution
• AMG DYNAMIC SELECT with "Comfort," "Eco," "Sport," "Sport+," and "Individual" drive programs
• 3-stage AMG RIDE CONTROL+ Air Suspension
• AMG Performance steering wheel
• Interior appointments available in MB-Tex man-made leather interior with DINAMICA microfiber, nappa leather and designo
• ENERGIZING Comfort feature
• Standard Driving Assistance features: ATTENTION ASSIST, PRE-SAFE® occupant protection system including PRE-SAFE® Sound.
• Optional Driving Assistance features: Active Distance Assist DISTRONIC®, Active Steering Assist, Active Speed Limit Assist, Active Braking Assist with Cross-Traffic Function, Evasive Steering Assist, Active Blind Spot Assist, Active Lane Keeping Assist, Active Lane Keeping Assist, PRE-SAFE® PLUS

CaptainE

CaptainE

c4004matic

The DOG says quite clearly, 3.0L v6. Its the same engine as before and the same engine as the S450. NO INLINE 6!!!!!. What is the ridiculous fixation with the inline 6?????? Yes MB is working on one, No, its not available for 19 models. Get it???? Same DELOS M276 now rated at 362hp. On the 400 models its rated at 329. Same engine as the 43 models, which in addition, is rated at 396hp for the E43 due to fractionally bigger turbos.
Its the same story with the previous V8 M278 it was used in a variety of vehicles with different "tune" . Though on MB models it was labeled as 500 or 550 the AMG 63 used the same block and architecture bored form 4.7 to 5.5L. The inline 6 with E assist is being developed primarily for diesel vehicles, given the big issues with diesels it may not see the light of day at all. As a gas engine its supposed to be just a mild hybrid. All European manufacturers are scrambling to replace diesels with some sort of hybrid or electric. In fact, Europe is probably the best place for electric cars, distances are short and there are plenty of efficient rail systems for longer distance travel.

ua549

I was not referring to a MY 2019 vehicle when I posted the specs for the future E450 from MBUSA which will arrive in the US eventually. I was correcting the numbers posted by 4dimension.

4dimension

I agree with you on the engine, the new E450 Wagon has the same engine as the C/GLC 43. However, for GLC 43 coupe 0-60 is 4.8 sec, and the GLC is a much lighter car compared to E400 wagon (as we don't know how much the E450 Wagon weights), I highly doubt the E450 Wagon is faster than that. But I'd be really disappointed is the car becomes slower after an engine boost.

4dimension

I hope the number I posted is wrong. But that number was directly from the DOG in the first post....

CaptainE

4dimension

Thank you!

ua549

He referred to the new engine which is an I6, not the old engine which is a V6.

4dimension

Honestly, I just don't understand why you keep saying I was referring to the new I6, while everyone else understood what I was saying. I have been following the E wagon for a while, and I knew for a FACT, the new I6 WILL NOT be placed in 2019 E450, although it might in the future. Also I used the phrase "engine boost", which obviously means the horsepower boost from 329 to 362 for the same V6. In addition, this whole thread is based on the information from the DOG in the first post which has absolutely no information regarding the new I6 whatsoever.

CaptainE

4MaticCoupe

Not to belabor this entry, but in my search of MBUSA, I found nothing E450 related ... future or otherwise. The figures posted above, however, are a direct copy-n-paste from the future vehicles section where the discussion is on the new for MY '19 E53 coupe/vert, both of which will be powered by this inline 6 (non-diesel) powertrain. If there is some area on the MBUSA website where any discussion of the E450 (as well as ((I guess)) the E350) is discussed, I am open to having this pointed out to me.