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Old Sep 17, 2018 | 01:10 PM
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Your hearing must be much much more sensitive than mine. At 80 MPH, in my E400, wind noise is barely perceptible.
Maybe, or maybe not, but I sure am a picky mother....****

To me, there's something harmonious about driving at 70-80mph in an S class with it registering 65db on 19" RFTs while the Lexus LS500 comes in at near 69db (as does every other single car I've driven). I am eagerly awaiting the 2019 A8 to land to see if it can even come close, and if not, I'll order the MY19 S class with a "subject to", the MY20 E class not being able to be ordered with the ACP at time of delivery.

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Old Sep 17, 2018 | 01:30 PM
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Old Sep 18, 2018 | 10:29 AM
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[y]ou can’t hear or feel the difference. Save your money and don’t waste it on this $1100 package that does nothing. The glass is single pane glass that does absolutely nothing to deaden the sound inside the cabin of the car. It’s a MB gimmick.
I disagree. We have it in our E400 wagon and you can't hear the road noise once all the doors and windows are closed. As Car & Driver said, it's well worth it.
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Old Sep 18, 2018 | 11:53 AM
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I disagree. We have it in our E400 wagon and you can't hear the road noise once all the doors and windows are closed. As Car & Driver said, it's well worth it.
I guess that depends on just how much isolation from the outside world one is looking for. For me, the E Class is already so quiet without PAF that I would have a very difficult time justifying the $1100 additional expense to make it even more quiet. But this is why Mercedes offers options. I'm sure there are things I think are high priority options that someone else may have no interest or need for.
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Old Sep 18, 2018 | 03:27 PM
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I guess that depends on just how much isolation from the outside world one is looking for. For me, the E Class is already so quiet without PAF that I would have a very difficult time justifying the $1100 additional expense to make it even more quiet. But this is why Mercedes offers options. I'm sure there are things I think are high priority options that someone else may have no interest or need for.
Like heated and ventilated seats perhaps.

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Old Sep 18, 2018 | 03:36 PM
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Like heated and ventilated seats perhaps.

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Absolutely. For me, they are an absolute must have, living in a bloody hot and humid climate like Florida. For someone else, they may not be an option worthy of consideration.
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Old Sep 18, 2018 | 06:04 PM
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Absolutely. For me, they are an absolute must have, living in a bloody hot and humid climate like Florida. For someone else, they may not be an option worthy of consideration.
And others with more sensitive hearing, the quietest interior is worth whatever they are willing to pay. A few thousand is small change to some people.



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Old Sep 19, 2018 | 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by CaptainE

And others with more sensitive hearing, the quietest interior is worth whatever they are willing to pay. A few thousand is small change to some people.



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It's only $1100, actually, which is 0.0125% of the price of my particular build. Hell, I'd pay $5000 for this feature if it was available here, would save me $15K so I don't have to buy the S!
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Originally Posted by superangrypenguin
It's only $1100, actually, which is 0.0125% of the price of my particular build. Hell, I'd pay $5000 for this feature if it was available here, would save me $15K so I don't have to buy the S!
A 10 million dollar car!
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Old Sep 19, 2018 | 10:12 PM
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A 10 million dollar car!
Yeah I screwed that up. 10 million yen?
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Old Sep 19, 2018 | 11:16 PM
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It's worth it. Works great, end of story. Necessary, no.
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Old Jan 13, 2020 | 11:07 PM
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I got news from MB Canada!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"The option for the Acousitc Comfort Package is not currently available in Canada. We are actively looking into offering it for the next model year, however no final decision has yet been made."

^MB Canada is referencing the MY20 E class.

FINGERS CROSSED! Well darn, now what do I do? Buy the S, or wait for the E?

Frigging decisions!!! (The E is a much better car on ALL fronts for my needs, but I'd have to wait another year and "hope")...

Sigh
it’s available now in Canada, I just ordered new GLE and the dealer told me about it, so I added it.
however, on Mercedes Benz Canada website, the option not there!

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Old Jan 13, 2020 | 11:44 PM
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Even in the States, it is not listed on the web site, and is considered a Special Order option, subject to an additional $250 special order fee plus the $1100 for the ACP. Worth it, though. ;-) Especially on a wagon, which are always louder than a sedan.

BTW, on the wagon for 2020, at least, there is now only 1 area specified as not infra-red resistant: to the passenger's side of the mirror (for your radar detector or car wash RFID tag). The low center area has apparently been removed. I've also checked the front and rear side windows, and all have a sound-absorbing membrane between two pieces of glass. I've been told they also transmit less heat, but haven't been able to confirm that yet.
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Old Jan 17, 2020 | 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by superangrypenguin
What is the package code for the acoustic comfort package on the E?
I have a 2019 E class sedan with the Acoustic Comfort Package. The windows are single pane and the package isn’t worth the extra money.
You can’t tell the difference.
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Old Jan 17, 2020 | 04:28 PM
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If you drive in windy day or above 100km/hr , you will see significant difference. Also when the car age, you will not have those funny sounds inside the cabin 😁
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Even in the States, it is not listed on the web site, and is considered a Special Order option, subject to an additional $250 special order fee plus the $1100 for the ACP. Worth it, though. ;-) Especially on a wagon, which are always louder than a sedan.

BTW, on the wagon for 2020, at least, there is now only 1 area specified as not infra-red resistant: to the passenger's side of the mirror (for your radar detector or car wash RFID tag). The low center area has apparently been removed. I've also checked the front and rear side windows, and all have a sound-absorbing membrane between two pieces of glass. I've been told they also transmit less heat, but haven't been able to confirm that yet.

I see it available on mbusa.com, select gle to build and it’s on second build page
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Originally Posted by rraisley
Even in the States, it is not listed on the web site, and is considered a Special Order option, subject to an additional $250 special order fee plus the $1100 for the ACP. Worth it, though. ;-) Especially on a wagon, which are always louder than a sedan.

BTW, on the wagon for 2020, at least, there is now only 1 area specified as not infra-red resistant: to the passenger's side of the mirror (for your radar detector or car wash RFID tag). The low center area has apparently been removed. I've also checked the front and rear side windows, and all have a sound-absorbing membrane between two pieces of glass. I've been told they also transmit less heat, but haven't been able to confirm that yet.

I see it available on mbusa.com, select gle to build and it’s on second build page
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Old Jan 17, 2020 | 05:36 PM
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It's worth it. Works great, end of story. Necessary, no.
For me it was a "must have"
Huge difference imho
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For me it was a "must have"
Huge difference imho
I agree
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I see it available on mbusa.com, select gle to build and it’s on second build page
Yeah, but this is an E-Class Sedan forum, so selecting E Sedan on mbusa.com will /not/ show it on the second build page. Per the MY20 DOG, it is now special order only.

The sticker on my 2020 E450 Wagon states:

DC2 Acoustic Comfort Package (SPC): Increased Cabin Insulation, Windshield and Side Windows with Acoustic an Heat Absorbing Membrane $1,100.00
SPC Special Order $250.00

I've checked the side windows, and there are two panes of glass with a rather thick flexible membrane between them, which you can feel with your fingernail. I'm extremely happy with the level of quietness this provdes.
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Here's a quote from Aug 4, 2017 MB USA press release with some additional detail on this package. Extra padding in rear footwell and center tunnel was news to me.

"The Acoustic Comfort Package is available for U.S. customers on both the sedan and wagon models. A special acoustic film in the windscreen and side windows ensures low levels of background noise in the vehicle interior. The Acoustic Comfort Package contains further sound-insulating measures such as additional insulation in the rear footwell and on the center tunnel. To provide excellent heat insulation in the interior, the windscreen, side windows and rear windows are made of laminated safety glass with another layer of film that absorbs infrared. Surfaces in the interior like the armrests, steering wheel and seats get less hot from solar radiation as a result."
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Here's a quote from Aug 4, 2017 MB USA press release with some additional detail on this package. Extra padding in rear footwell and center tunnel was news to me.

"The Acoustic Comfort Package is available for U.S. customers on both the sedan and wagon models. A special acoustic film in the windscreen and side windows ensures low levels of background noise in the vehicle interior. The Acoustic Comfort Package contains further sound-insulating measures such as additional insulation in the rear footwell and on the center tunnel. To provide excellent heat insulation in the interior, the windscreen, side windows and rear windows are made of laminated safety glass with another layer of film that absorbs infrared. Surfaces in the interior like the armrests, steering wheel and seats get less hot from solar radiation as a result."
Interesting. I'd never heard or read anything before concerning the rear windows.

Watched a TV program last night, and they rescued a person from a wrecked car by using that tool to punch/disintegrate the drivers side window; that won't work with laminated glass. They'd have to punch a hole, make it bigger and pull/break out all the remaining window. I wonder if that should be a concern?
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Interesting. I'd never heard or read anything before concerning the rear windows.

Watched a TV program last night, and they rescued a person from a wrecked car by using that tool to punch/disintegrate the drivers side window; that won't work with laminated glass. They'd have to punch a hole, make it bigger and pull/break out all the remaining window. I wonder if that should be a concern?
You shouldn't be concerned. Rescue vehicles are equipped with other devices that can be used to "open" a vehicle.
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Take a look at this Car and Driver article. There appear to be some safety-related pluses to the laminated glass as well. In a rescue situation, I think it will be the quality of first responders' training that matters most.

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a2...a-unbreakable/
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Take a look at this Car and Driver article. There appear to be some safety-related pluses to the laminated glass as well. In a rescue situation, I think it will be the quality of first responders' training that matters most.

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a2...a-unbreakable/
Interesting list. Surprised most other MB models have laminated side glass as well. So, I'm okay in an accident, once the first responders get there, and I should probably avoid dunking my new Mercedes in pools and other deep water.
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