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Old Feb 27, 2019 | 05:30 AM
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Exclamation Panamericana or Diamond grill?

Between the two grills, do you think the Panamericana looks better or the Diamond? Should the Panamericana be offered as optional on all MB vehicles, or just certain ones? For myself, I like the grill on the GT models, but prefer the diamond type grill on others. What do you think?

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Old Feb 27, 2019 | 09:08 AM
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This is surprisingly tough question. Thinking of yours @FedM

I like the way they both look... but ultimately I have to side with the diamond grill. It's what I've got on my car (combined with the night package) so it's what I know, and I love the way mine looks
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Old Feb 27, 2019 | 02:04 PM
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I think the Panamericana works on the coupe\ cabriolet, but not so much on the saloon (sedan).
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Old Feb 27, 2019 | 03:41 PM
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I'm just surprise there isn't more opinion on this, since, so much has been written about the new grill.
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Old Feb 27, 2019 | 03:49 PM
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I think MB is doing it right. It belongs on the king of the heap, the 63 versions. People really pay up for the big power and should have a distinctive looking car. People who change the grill are making their car a "poseur". As much as I like that grill, I would not have it on my car.
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Old Feb 28, 2019 | 02:51 AM
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I have panamericana grille on my coupe and I love it!!
btw I changed the diamond grille for it
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Old Feb 28, 2019 | 07:00 AM
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I have panamericana grille on my coupe and I love it!!
btw I changed the diamond grille for it
You wouldn't happen to have before and after pictures, would you? I think it would be fun to see your side by side difference.
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Old Feb 28, 2019 | 10:08 AM
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I do not like the panamericana grill on sedans or the sedan based coupes and converts. It just looks out of place (in one thread somewhere on here a sponsor was promoting them and it was horrible on the sedans). It only looks right on the GT cars. But I do not like that diamond grill either on anything. That has been a huge sticking point for my wife and I not buying another MB already. It makes it look like the nose has some kind of disease. But it seems that a lot of the cars are getting it now. I like the bars across the middle best......................$.02
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Old Feb 28, 2019 | 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by rustybear3
You wouldn't happen to have before and after pictures, would you? I think it would be fun to see your side by side difference.
\Here you go
not the best before pictures but that's all I have

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Old Feb 28, 2019 | 10:33 AM
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Dont like that the star assembly is protruding so much outwards, it would look alot better with the star flush with the vertical bars.
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Old Feb 28, 2019 | 10:34 AM
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I think that makes the car look bigger and better than the original but I think a single thick style bar from the AMG looks best! I think I would add some wheel spacers to that and make it even better! It is a good looking car though.
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Old Feb 28, 2019 | 10:35 AM
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Dont like that the star assembly is protruding so much outwards, it would look alot better with the star flush with the vertical bars.
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Old Feb 28, 2019 | 10:48 AM
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I think that makes the car look bigger and better than the original but I think a single thick style bar from the AMG looks best! I think I would add some wheel spacers to that and make it even better! It is a good looking car though.
13mm spacers are sitting in the trunk )
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Old Feb 28, 2019 | 11:06 AM
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Dont like that the star assembly is protruding so much outwards, it would look alot better with the star flush with the vertical bars.
yeah maybe
I was looking for the grille with the camera under the star emblem and that is the only reason the assembly is protruding outwards
If the camera is above the star than it would be more flush with the bars
I just noticed it, so maybe I will order a new grille with the camera above the star
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Old Feb 28, 2019 | 11:09 AM
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@FedM when you fit the spacers, I want to see photos.

Oh, and if you decide to change the grill to make the star more flush, then guess what... I want to see it!
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Old Feb 28, 2019 | 11:12 AM
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@FedM when you fit the spacers, I want to see photos.

Oh, and if you decide to change the grill to make the star more flush, then guess what... I want to see it!
Haha
Sure Steph!!
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Old Feb 28, 2019 | 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by vic viper
Dont like that the star assembly is protruding so much outwards, it would look alot better with the star flush with the vertical bars.
Here is the picture of the grille with camera dummy under the star
The emblem assembly is almost flat with the grille bars
But you loose one vertical bar and for me it seems not so good
So it is all about the camera dummy position


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Old Feb 28, 2019 | 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by vic viper
Dont like that the star assembly is protruding so much outwards, it would look alot better with the star flush with the vertical bars.
FedM, I don't think the star protruding outwards is that much objectionable. But I agree, I'd hate top lose a bar for the dummy camera.

It definitely gives the car a different look. I like both grills, and if it were me, I'd interchange them occasionally....the best of both worlds.
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Old Mar 1, 2019 | 01:54 AM
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Originally Posted by rustybear3
FedM, I don't think the star protruding outwards is that much objectionable. But I agree, I'd hate top lose a bar for the dummy camera.

It definitely gives the car a different look. I like both grills, and if it were me, I'd interchange them occasionally....the best of both worlds.
As far as I don't have surround view option so I found a panamericana grille w\o dummy camera and with full set of bars lol
Waiting for pictures from the seller to check the emblem assembly position

Well, interchange option is a little bit PITA. Removing front bumper every time..
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Judging by all the pictures of 213.s with the GT-style grill it is pretty obvious that the chrome surround trim needs to be blacked out.
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Judging by all the pictures of 213.s with the GT-style grill it is pretty obvious that the chrome surround trim needs to be blacked out.
yeah
that is the first thing you need to do before any grille
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Originally Posted by FedM
\Here you go
not the best before pictures but that's all I have

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How did you change the chrome trim around the grill into black one ? Does it goes with the grill together ?
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Old Oct 10, 2019 | 12:51 PM
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Found this reference from other threads.

https://global.cksperformance.com/pa...3&type=grilles

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Old Oct 10, 2019 | 01:43 PM
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Found this reference from other threads.

https://global.cksperformance.com/pa...3&type=grilles
Thanks . But it didn’t answer my question . How to remove the chrome “ surrounding” of the grill . Did I have to paint it or can I replace it . This is not part of the grill
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Old Oct 10, 2019 | 04:40 PM
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Thanks . But it didn’t answer my question . How to remove the chrome “ surrounding” of the grill . Did I have to paint it or can I replace it . This is not part of the grill
Easiest way is to wrap it black, it's the frame alone.
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